Your ability to hit something else will depend on what your hitting and with what. If something has a high AC you may choose to use a spell instead. Spells very on how they hit, but a lot require a spell save against your Spell DC. So let's say you have Spell DC of 15 and you cast a spell that requires a wisdom save. The monster your fighting rolls a dice and adds its wisdom modifier. If it doesn't beat your Spell DC of 15, your spell hits in full. If it does beat it some spells will do nothing and some will do like half damage. You'll have to read the description. You may have spells that require dexterity saves or intelligence saves, so you can judge by what you are fighting what might be the best to use. If you are fighting a cat, it probably has high dexterity. In summary having a higher Spell DC means you are more likely to hit something with your spells, but also choosing what kind of spell you are using can increase and decrease this chance as well.
TD
ES COO Shitposting Dept. of GWF
TD counters with Baja Blast.
VashTheStampede
Dumdum McGee
VashTheStampede
Dumdum McGee
So, a lot of things are DM Discretion Things. The way I was taught to play, and that I usually do in my games, is that the player says what they'd like their action to be and then the DM will prompt if a die roll is necessary.
A perception check very well may be what the DM calls for here (it makes the most sense) but also the DM may feel that the action doesn't even require a check based on the difficulty of the action.
A perception check very well may be what the DM calls for here (it makes the most sense) but also the DM may feel that the action doesn't even require a check based on the difficulty of the action.
VashTheStampede
Dumdum McGee
Makes sense. Would we RP for our posts or mostly just the action we want to perform after reading the DM’s post?
VashTheStampede
Dumdum McGee
(Just consider everything I say to these kind of questions to be preceded with "IN MY GAMES" because I don't want to set rules for any other DMs)
Whatever you're comfortable with. I've played with people who prefer to say "My wizard asks the guard where a bookstore is" and others that will literally act out everything while putting on a voice and everything. Personally I prefer the way you and TD were doing things in that Tavern thread, but that might not be for everyone.
TD
ES COO Shitposting Dept. of GWF
Is this to say you'll have a tavern or hub equivalent for your campaigns, or will you be sharing this tavern?
Makes sense. Probably depends on how much time I have. If I’m responding while at work, it will probably a few sentences at most and then my action
VashTheStampede
Dumdum McGee
My intent when coming up with the idea was that each campaign would have a corresponding Tavern thread for both in-depth party conversation and game observers to chat in.
Ben has a good point that things could feel a bit cluttered in a thread with both of those lines of conversation happening...but I kinda see it like a Dead Thread in wolf where there's game theory going on alongside shitposting and whatnot.
TD
ES COO Shitposting Dept. of GWF
I'm that guy that attends murder mystery parties and does this. If this were in person I'd be doing that for sure. I'll likely try to mimic a full roleplay wherever possible for reasons.
VashTheStampede
Dumdum McGee
Also, my campaigns are going to be broken up in "Chapters", with each Chapter having its own Campaign Thread and Tavern Thread. Kind of like "Day/Night" threads in Wolf. Thus things shouldn't get TOO unwieldy. But its something I may change in the future if I'm wrong and convert to Ben's outlook.
TD
ES COO Shitposting Dept. of GWF
I think I'm seeing a difference with intent unless I'm fully misunderstanding the statement below.
I thought it was almost like a hub to kick off any campaign that may exist, maybe I'm wrong, maybe it has to be decided.
Yes, although I wasn't really pushing for people needing to roll checks and things in the tavern threads. I really just wanted to get one up and going so that people can have a chance to actually get into character ahead of being thrown into a campaign. Your characters should have some semblance of backstory, why they're even going on adventures and not living a simple life as a pig farmer, etc.
But you've got the idea, and it was very easy to pick out the action with them being emphasized with bold/color even in the middle of RP, so I'm good with continuing to use that method. Vash might want to do things a little differently but I'm sure we'll clarify that in the beginning of whatever campaign thread gets started.
The general approach to actions would be you getting an idea and then asking the DM "Can I do X?", be it "Can I climb that wall to get a better vantage point?", "Can I seduce that tree ent with my legs made of a lady-ent", whatever. The general response from the DM would be "You can try!", but I think we can gloss over that back and forth at least from my perspective I'll assume if you post something in the magic colors, then you're wanting to try it. If it's something trivial that anyone could accomplish, you'll just get the outcome. If it's something that'd take some skill to accomplish, you'll be asked to roll whatever skill check is relevant. I'd say perhaps hold off on the rolling until the DM confirms what you should be rolling for, as there are often slight differences in what you'd need to roll for a given situation.
Say if you're trying to get a gate guard to let you into a city, and you don't have a valid pass. You'd more than likely need to roll a charisma skill check, but that will vary and the modifier you use will depend on if you're trying to persuade them, intimidate them, deceive them, etc.
Ergo I think better to just state what you want to do and then wait for the DM to ask you for the roll.
I can see Vash's angle that one single thread for all campaigns could get out of hand. I personally don't mind if we end up with separate taverns per DM (there are, of course, a great many taverns across Faerûn), a new one for each campaign, or just end up sharing one single one to pull adventurers from.
My thoughts for keeping the OOC (out of character) discussion and meta-game questions about how D&D works separated are so as not to take people out of the roleplay vibe. While in-person D&D kind of requires you ask your questions and other things there at the table, we've got the benefit of splitting stuff up and organizing things in a more coherent fashion. Particularly for any of the "how does D&D work" questions, since the Adventurer's Academy thread is locked, it could be useful for anyone playing to be able to read an OOC thread and perhaps get answers to things they're not sure about, without having to wade through all the RP fluff to find it.
As above, I'm good with however Vash ultimately wants to handle things. We've tried to build this up together but his point that every DM is going to run things differently is poignant. Just assume everything isa work-in-progress that's trying to edge ever closer to the cliff-edge before taking flight.
Nailed it. With a small enchanted hammer.
VashTheStampede
Dumdum McGee
VashTheStampede
Dumdum McGee
TD
ES COO Shitposting Dept. of GWF
I felt immersed
TD
ES COO Shitposting Dept. of GWF
No like that wasn't a it's so bad it's funny laugh sorry..
That was a holy shit where has that Alu been in an amazing excited laugh kinda way?
TD
ES COO Shitposting Dept. of GWF
VashTheStampede
Dumdum McGee
I likely would have asked for a Sleight of Hand check specifically in that case
Just read up on that and that makes total sense. Says to roll dexterity so I picked the right one?
VashTheStampede
Dumdum McGee
Assuming you don't have any bonuses to Sleight of Hand from racial abilities, backgrounds, or feats then yes, it would be akin to a straight Dex check.
Back in 3.5 if you were untrained in Sleight of Hand you wouldn't be able to succeed a skill check with a DC higher than 10. But that's one of the reasons 5th edition is superior IMO.
So much more to learn. But long story short...did I boozy the apple for @Tommy Boy ?
VashTheStampede
Dumdum McGee
A nat 20 would be a success in my book, assuming the Barkeep didn't reciprocate on his Perception roll
Mark
Useful Idiot
Mark
Useful Idiot
(I probably wouldn't have predicted I'd be communicating via gifs 90% of the time, 20 years ago.)
Most of us were hired for the free labor.
TD
ES COO Shitposting Dept. of GWF
TD
ES COO Shitposting Dept. of GWF
TD
ES COO Shitposting Dept. of GWF
To help explain. Since I'm a knowledge domain cleric I get command as a spell. Character wise Cookie doesn't know that apple has been fermented she just really thinks the human needs to eat something because that always makes people feel better. I have to verbally say something, so I pulled the would you kindly from bioshock. I believe Tommy's character would know I used the spell whether they pass or fail the save.
TD
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