GWF Zell Wolf Version XII - Day 2

[Jon]

Jump, I would love to be able to stop feeling so sus of you. What defense can you give?

 

[shortkut]

STOP LOOKING AT ME LIKE THAT! I'M NOT AN ALTER BOY!

 

[GwJumpman]

Jump, I would love to be able to stop feeling so sus of you. What defense can you give?

I still hold to the claim that I was a Seer Apprentice and got promoted to Spirit Seer and that I checked only one person, canadaguy, last night. I would also say that I think I understand why I'm being targeted and that if I were to replay this game I would've probably made one key decision (two if you count forgetting to check a second person) differently than I did in this one, although I won't elaborate on that decision til maybe a discussion after the game's over. I don't recall the full list of group where one of us had to be a liar (was it me, Benzine, and Tommy?) and I do agree with the logic that someone's lying here.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

I still hold to the claim that I was a Seer Apprentice and got promoted to Spirit Seer and that I checked only one person, canadaguy, last night. I would also say that I think I understand why I'm being targeted and that if I were to replay this game I would've probably made one key decision (two if you count forgetting to check a second person) differently than I did in this one, although I won't elaborate on that decision til maybe a discussion after the game's over. I don't recall the full list of group where one of us had to be a liar (was it me, Benzine, and Tommy?) and I do agree with the logic that someone's lying here.

Well if no one is lying then we're a game of townies that Zell is killing off at night for fun to see how we respond.

 

[Benzine]

@GwJumpman you won't be getting judge for only selecting one person - there's nothing wrong with that. You are probably seen as sus because your role, and actions, are totally useless (not judgement, it's just what's happened). And that is good case for a wolf, it's hard to disprove you... But that's what makes people with these roles sus. Same like cg this game.

 

[Jon]

I don't recall the full list of group where one of us had to be a liar (was it me, Benzine, and Tommy?) and I do agree with the logic that someone's lying here.

It was you, Benzine and Tommy, yes. And at LEAST one of you is lying, yes. But with Alu claiming Seer apprentice, he's added to the list as well and at least 2 of you are lying.

Well if no one is lying then we're a game of townies that Zell is killing off at night for fun to see how we respond.

I.... don't really put this past him. Do you?

 

[A Maybe Baker]

@GwJumpman you won't be getting judge for only selecting one person - there's nothing wrong with that. You are probably seen as sus because your role, and actions, are totally useless (not judgement, it's just what's happened). And that is good case for a wolf, it's hard to disprove you... But that's what makes people with these roles sus. Same like cg this game.

Yeah I'm pretty sure that one game @Fool's Requiem was a spirit seer who only selected a single person and had that person be a wolf.

It's definitely a way you can play for sure, because it'll either fully clear or execute someone (figuratively speaking).

 

[A Maybe Baker]

It was you, Benzine and Tommy, yes. And at LEAST one of you is lying, yes. But with Alu claiming Seer apprentice, he's added to the list as well and at least 2 of you are lying.


I.... don't really put this past him. Do you?

And you're not including FR, Jawneh, and kut because they haven't officially claimed and therefore have no potential to lie?

 

[Jon]

Additionally, Kut has only alluded to a role. I only have inclinations to what. And FR says he's a villager and won't claim. So, do with this what you will.

 

[Benzine]

Additionally, Kut has only alluded to a role. I only have inclinations to what. And FR says he's a villager and won't claim. So, do with this what you will.

yeah but alu is asking why you aren't willing to do with this, which is fair

 

[Benzine]

i say we kill the quiets, like always, they'll be the wolves.

 

[Jon]

And you're not including FR, Jawneh, and kut because they haven't officially claimed and therefore have no potential to lie?

I'm not including them because they haven't claimed, not because they have no potential for lying.

That particular list he's referencing was only for those that made a claim.

The other three are sus based on the fact they've said nothing.

At least to me. You can all formulate your own conclusions.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

i say we kill the quiets, like always, they'll be the wolves.

 

[Jon]

yeah but alu is asking why you aren't willing to do with this, which is fair

See above. I was answering Alu's question as you were typing that.

 

[Jon]

I will try to check back in before 9, but today is the last day we have friends here from Massachusetts, so I know everyone wanted to play some board games tonight.

Will do my best if we want to switch gears. If we don't, Jump is still my top sus, but I do not feel great about it. If you're innocent Jump, I'll apologize tonight!

 

[Jawneh]

I'm trying to figure out the numbers for us to win this, but unless we get lucky with the wolves hitting the dick or hitting the fan, if we have one, next night doesn't look too good for us.

I'm thinking Jumpy at best would be a wolf, but not the dick. If he's the dick, I think it would be much easier to pick the wolves off, barring avenger or alpha. It'd be 3-2-1 or 4-2 tomorrow in the limp dick scenario. We should be able to pick the wolves from there, or at worst, not lynch so that the wolves won't get a potential night kill W yet.

If he's a wolf, tomorrow we might be 2-1-1 at worst. Withnone wolf and 2 dick kills. If so, it'll be the win for either wolves or dick, depending on who gets lynched. If the wolves hit the dick, +1 townie. Ideally the dick kills the last wolf, so we'd be 3-1-1. As long as we then lynch the dick or the solo who is not a fool, we can either just win or get a couple days to hunt the dick.

And lastly if he's a townie and we've been bamboozeled... it'd just be a choice between wolves and dick again. Not thinking about those moves as I don't think the town could win at all anymore.

Unless! Unless the bully and protections pull through. There's still way too many iterations of how things will go, but instead of thinking through those on company time, I'll leave them out.

Err... this is all just words I needed to get out. We're only really screwed if Jumpy is a townie, which should be obvious for everyone. Back to work until lunch!

 

[Benzine]

I have got the protection covered. I am a master protector. We will survive.

@Jon i believe that you're innocent at this point. someone would've spoken up if there was another strong role.

@Jawneh is back on the huge sussometer for me. my preferences are fr and jawneh.

fr, there's piss all reason to hide a role at this point. even if you are a killer, you're gonna use it very shortly. i can't imagine what role you have that you'd be like this so i assume not town aligned.

 

[shortkut]

I have got the protection covered. I am a master protector. We will survive.

@Jon i believe that you're innocent at this point. someone would've spoken up if there was another strong role.

@Jawneh is back on the huge sussometer for me. my preferences are fr and jawneh.

fr, there's piss all reason to hide a role at this point. even if you are a killer, you're gonna use it very shortly. i can't imagine what role you have that you'd be like this so i assume not town aligned.

You make a reasonable argument

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Yeah I'm pretty sure that one game @Fool's Requiem was a spirit seer who only selected a single person and had that person be a wolf.

Yeah, I seered Cole and it came up red because the wolves killed, so I spammed the same message over and over. I haven't gotten shit for information from a role since.

fr, there's piss all reason to hide a role at this point.

disagree. I don't trust any of you.

even if you are a killer, you're gonna use it very shortly. i can't imagine what role you have that you'd be like this so i assume not town aligned.

You'd be wrong with that assumption.

 

[Benzine]

if you are good then i hope it's excellent

 

[Benzine]

when you are bad i hope it's just a boring old nothing

there's also been no discussion about wolf roles. inb4 guardian and alpha or something unbeatable.

 

[Jawneh]

@Jawneh is back on the huge sussometer for me. my preferences are fr and jawneh.

Sure? Whether it matters to you or not, the longer the game goes, the better I thrive. It's all a puzzle ready to be solved. I don't always blurt all my brain juice up as I end up rambling like I did. Was it like 3 games ago when we were at the end wondering how to win? I had a plan of action that would've gotten through all the what ifs with the info we had and score us a town W. Among the things, you ended up doing something different if I remember right. I think we also had a seer of some sort who did their own thing. Don't quote me on the exacts as I'd have to go double check. Luckily that game we did still pull through in the end.

The point is, I go through the numbers, potential outcomes, theorize roles, and try to see what is best to do. I just normally do that in my head and spare everyone here.

 

[Jon]

I have got the protection covered. I am a master protector. We will survive.

@Jon i believe that you're innocent at this point. someone would've spoken up if there was another strong role.

@Jawneh is back on the huge sussometer for me. my preferences are fr and jawneh.

fr, there's piss all reason to hide a role at this point. even if you are a killer, you're gonna use it very shortly. i can't imagine what role you have that you'd be like this so i assume not town aligned.

These are fair points... and again I hate you made feel guilty about day 1ing you....

You make a reasonable argument

It is

Sure? Whether it matters to you or not, the longer the game goes, the better I thrive. It's all a puzzle ready to be solved. I don't always blurt all my brain juice up as I end up rambling like I did. Was it like 3 games ago when we were at the end wondering how to win? I had a plan of action that would've gotten through all the what ifs with the info we had and score us a town W. Among the things, you ended up doing something different if I remember right. I think we also had a seer of some sort who did their own thing. Don't quote me on the exacts as I'd have to go double check. Luckily that game we did still pull through in the end.

The point is, I go through the numbers, potential outcomes, theorize roles, and try to see what is best to do. I just normally do that in my head and spare everyone here.

I really wish my instinct on your role is right. It means I'd be getting better at discerning people's hints. Alas... I doubt I am.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Sure? Whether it matters to you or not, the longer the game goes, the better I thrive. It's all a puzzle ready to be solved. I don't always blurt all my brain juice up as I end up rambling like I did. Was it like 3 games ago when we were at the end wondering how to win? I had a plan of action that would've gotten through all the what ifs with the info we had and score us a town W. Among the things, you ended up doing something different if I remember right. I think we also had a seer of some sort who did their own thing. Don't quote me on the exacts as I'd have to go double check. Luckily that game we did still pull through in the end.

The point is, I go through the numbers, potential outcomes, theorize roles, and try to see what is best to do. I just normally do that in my head and spare everyone here.

We're only on our second voting round, so it's difficult to judge based on trends. Also, since people can just vote whenever without posting when they voted, it's hard to judge when people voted for who to see when people hopped on bandwagons.

 

[Jon]

1 minute from finding out how much I have to apologize to Jump.

 

[Benzine]

0 minutes from HH gg or fool lel

 

[Jawneh]

I really wish my instinct on your role is right. It means I'd be getting better at discerning people's hints. Alas... I doubt I am.

Eh, it's fine. I'm not making it any easier myself. We'll, I don't know if others have picked it up so... maybe it's still you. Or just me!

We're only on our second voting round, so it's difficult to judge based on trends. Also, since people can just vote whenever without posting when they voted, it's hard to judge when people voted for who to see when people hopped on bandwagons.

That's true. We got less people in this game and quite a few have died as well, so it made sense for me to start racking my brain. Especially since it's possible that the game can end during night 3. Plus I'm rarely one to go after voting patterns. At best I try to keep an eye on votes that weren't posted as well. Just like what TD was doing.

Yeah, I'm talking about you, you Pinky ghost butt.

 

[Zell 17]

The village lynched GwJumpman. GwJumpman is the Fool.

The Fool wins! The game is over.

 

[Benzine]

haha

 

[A Maybe Baker]

Lmao nice

 

[Jon]

The village lynched GwJumpman. GwJumpman is the Fool.

The Fool wins! The game is over.

Sorry TD, you're no longer unique

 

[Benzine]

Jawneh is the evil detective and was in for a world of pain.

 

[Zell 17]

1​	Jon	RSV	Ritualist
2​	Alu	RWW	Wolf Seer
3​	Fool's Requiem	RRV	Farmer
4​	shortkut	RSV	Bully
5​	Jawneh	RK	Evil Detective
6​	GwJumpman	RV	Fool
7​	Kat	RRV	Loudmouth
8​	VashTheStampede	RSV	Warden
9​	Tubby23	RRV	Spirit Seer
10​	Local Hero	RWW	Nightmare Wolf
11​	Tommy Boy	RRV	Beast Hunter
12​	Benzine	RWW	Nightmare Wolf
13​	canadaguy	RRV	Farmer

 

[TD]

LOL.

Yay Jump.

 

[Jawneh]

Goddammit lol

GG Jumpy!

 

[Jon]

So, Jawneh.... Avenger?

 

[Zell 17]

Night 1	Role	Action	Result
Jon	Ritualist	Spell Fool's Requiem	Fool's Requiem Spelled
Alu	Wolf Seer	Check Jawneh	Evil Detective
Fool's Requiem	Farmer	None
shortkut	Bully	None
Jawneh	Evil Detective	Compare Jawneh and Tubby23	Unequal (Tubby23 dead)
GwJumpman	Fool	None
Kat	Loudmouth	None
VashTheStampede	Warden	None
Tubby23	Spirit Seer	Check Fool's Requiem and GwJumpman	No info
Local Hero	Nightmare Wolf	Kill Tubby23	Tubby23 already dead, change to no vote
Tommy Boy	Beast Hunter
Benzine	Nightmare Wolf	Kill VashTheStampede
canadaguy	Farmer	None
Wolves	Wolves	Kill VashTheStampede	VashTheStampede dead
Day 1	Role	Action	Result
Jon	Ritualist	None
shortkut	Bully	Rock Fool's Requiem	Fool's Requiem Concussed
Kat	Loudmouth	Tag Local Hero
Local Hero	Nightmare Wolf
Benzine	Nightmare Wolf
Night 2	Role	Action	Result
Jon	Ritualist
Alu	Wolf Seer	Check Kat
Fool's Requiem	Farmer	None
shortkut	Bully	None
Jawneh	Evil Detective	Check Kat and Local Hero	Unequal (Both dead)
GwJumpman	Fool	None
Kat	Loudmouth
Local Hero	Nightmare Wolf	Kill Fool's Requiem
Tommy Boy	Beast Hunter	Trap Tommy Boy
Benzine	Nightmare Wolf	Kill canadaguy
canadaguy	Farmer	None
Wolves	Wolves	Kill canadaguy
Day 2	Role	Action	Result
Jon	Ritualist
shortkut	Bully	Rock Jawneh	Jawneh concussed
Benzine	Nightmare Wolf	Nightmare Tommy Boy

 

[Benzine]

where was the revive @Jon?

 

[Benzine]

oooooh wow haha

 

[Jawneh]

Hey @Local Hero , I still killed you.

 

[Tubby23]

@Jawneh from this point onwards, it's on site between you and I. I don't care if you're even not playing I am voting for you

 

[Benzine]

I was soo looking forward to waking up in real life tomorrow and seeing everyone vote for Jawneh when there's no kill haha.

 

[Jon]

I wasn't too far off:

 

[Jawneh]

@Jawneh from this point onwards, it's on site between you and I. I don't care if you're even not playing I am voting for you

Haha, it was random number though! Blame Zell for giving you that number.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

If not for Jon coming out with the GWJ stuff I was going to do my same claim but with someone else. GG on the town and wolves working together for a fool win.

 

[Jawneh]

I was soo looking forward to waking up in real life tomorrow and seeing everyone vote for Jawneh when there's no kill haha.

I had a plan.

But kut would've rocked me dead before that lol.

 

[TD]

Sorry TD, you're no longer unique

Oh I'm still unique.

And besides, I nuked all badges as a result to celebrate.

(jk But actually where are the badges)

 

[Benzine]

I had a plan.

But kut would've rocked me dead before that lol.

Do share, quite interested to know how you think you'd weasel out of it.

 

[Zell 17]

Dead forum is open. GWJ played this really well

 

[Tubby23]

Haha, it was random number though! Blame Zell for giving you that number.

I refuse to use logic, damn you.

Always vote Jawneh.

Also Fools have now won two games in a row