GWF Zell Wolf Version XII - Day 2

[Jawneh]

I'm not sure I'm following the question here.

I got information, from a deceased player, that I am passing along here.

That's it.

Tubby was too dead by that time. Spirit seer gets info after all the kills have been dealt. Look at the action list.

Voting Jon

 

[Benzine]

Well, that's quite true if memory serves (I ain't reading), and that is pretty damning, Jon. Way stronger for me than the GwJ stuff.

 

[GwJumpman]

Voting Jon

 

[Benzine]

It would not be the first time Tubby has lied about info.

 

[Jon]

Tubby was too dead by that time. Spirit seer gets info after all the kills have been dealt. Look at the action list.

Voting Jon

Yup, he was.

And this was our plan. To see who would catch the action list.

I really am who I say I am. I was working with Tubby. He really did check Jump... and... shit I forget the other. Can check tonight again and actually notate it in my spreadsheet. But I don't have access to the thread in the day. He did not get the actual read because he was killed.

That said, the plan was to see who would say what until the action timing was picked up on.

You can vote me, but you'll be killing a strong role and doing the wolf job for them.

 

[Benzine]

who the hell am i meant to protect besides myself, you guys don't make it easy to work as a team lmao

 

[Jon]

I'm also playing this game far more care free, so do whatever you want, truly. It was a plan. And I got what I needed out of it.

 

[Jawneh]

I really am who I say I am. I was working with Tubby. He really did check Jump... and... shit I forget the other. Can check tonight again and actually notate it in my spreadsheet. But I don't have access to the thread in the day. He did not get the actual read because he was killed.

So, the other big piece of information, which is who the other potential killer could be, you two just decided to leave out?

Uh huh.

 

[Jon]

who the hell am i meant to protect besides myself, you guys don't make it easy to work as a team lmao

You wanted claims, I'm giving you one. Not sure how else you expect to work together.

Either way, I'm getting cookies and info every night phase, so fuck you all.

 

[Benzine]

You wanted claims, I'm giving you one. Not sure how else you expect to work together.

Either way, I'm getting cookies and info every night phase, so fuck you all.

Jon's Requiem.

 

[Jawneh]

I guess it's possible for both Tubby and Jumpy forget to target two people in the same game.

 

[Jon]

So, the other big piece of information, which is who the other potential killer could be, you two just decided to leave out?

Uh huh.

Tubby, like me, was sus of Jump from yesterday. He didn't get to check it. What other info would ANYONE have? Vash was the warden and didn't have info. Other than that I'm talking with Tubby, who I planned with, TD and Christina. There wasn't a whole lot to do other than make a play to find info.

 

[Jawneh]

Either way, I'm getting cookies and info every night phase, so fuck you all.

I mean yes. You'll get cookies after today.

 

[Jon]

I guess it's possible for both Tubby and Jumpy forget to target two people in the same game.

No, he targeted two people.

I just cannot remember the other name. And I no longer have access to the thread (it's day phase). But Tubby did NOT forget to check two people. He was just dead.

 

[Jon]

I mean yes. You'll get cookies after today.

I've had them twice now, thanks! Christina had a bundt cake for her birthday. That Vash bought. From a store called Nothing Bundt Cakes. Or something very similar.

Know where all this was talked about? Dead thread. Tyvm.

 

[Jawneh]

Tubby, like me, was sus of Jump from yesterday. He didn't get to check it. What other info would ANYONE have? Vash was the warden and didn't have info. Other than that I'm talking with Tubby, who I planned with, TD and Christina. There wasn't a whole lot to do other than make a play to find info.

That's true. Ballsy play, but why invent information and present it also in a way that is objectively wrong as well?

I just cannot remember the other name. And I no longer have access to the thread (it's day phase). But Tubby did NOT forget to check two people. He was just dead.

If you did get info from him, that other person could also be a killer. Convenient to leave that person out and single out Jumpy without letting us all discuss it. That's the whole point of SS. Two suspects. One or two killers when they are red.


If we were to trust you to be a conjurer/medium/ritualist, why come up with that play? We were already considering Jumpy. If your info was true, then yes it would be more damning against him. But then we also have the other person who could also be the actual killer or a second one. That's very important information as well that we might not ever get to know if you die. Even if we don't lynch you, you're now a target for the wolves and dick.

I just don't buy it. This is Local prime numbers again. Half-assed information and blackmailing.

 

[Tommy Boy]

good evening everyone

 

[GwJumpman]

Hello

 

[Jawneh]

How's life in Tommy land?

 

[Tommy Boy]

I just played The Room 1-4 over the last 12 hours. Unfortunately nothing to report today.

I'm kind of confused about the Jon claim thing going on?

 

[Jon]

That's true. Ballsy play, but why invent information and present it also in a way that is objectively wrong as well?

It wasn't really "invented." I simply forget the other name. Had I remembered, I would have said "one of them" killed. I was sus of Jump, so was Tubby, so I just mentioned him so I could gauge reactions. And I got the ones I needed for myself.

If you did get info from him, that other person could also be a killer. Convenient to leave that person out and single out Jumpy without letting us all discuss it. That's the whole point of SS. Two suspects. One or two killers when they are red.

It's not convenient. If I had to GUESS on memory, I think he said the other he checked was Local. The whole thing is irrelevant. He didn't get real info. So the other name is not relevant either.

Even if we don't lynch you, you're now a target for the wolves and dick.

Why I told Benzine I didn't want to out another strong role. But I'm not surviving the night without protection anyway I don't think. I'd like to clear another townie during this day phase preferably, and then I don't care if I die.

But either way, do with this info as you please. Just trying to find baddies.

 

[Benzine]

My daughter is on my lap, looking at Tommy's signature. She points towards Tommy's post, saying, is this your enemy?

Maybe.

 

[Tommy Boy]

My daughter is on my lap, looking at Tommy's signature. She points towards Tommy's post, saying, is this your enemy?

Maybe.

There is nothing bad about anybody other than Grubby24. I have no ill intent toward my great long time friend Ben H. Zine.

 

[Benzine]

There is nothing bad about anybody other than Grubby24. I have no ill intent toward my great long time friend Ben H. Zine.

The little emoji has guns, that's all. Anyone with a gun who isn't me is a villain.

 

[Jawneh]

It wasn't really "invented." I simply forget the other name. Had I remembered, I would have said "one of them" killed. I was sus of Jump, so was Tubby, so I just mentioned him so I could gauge reactions. And I got the ones I needed for myself.

But you didn't. You didn't lead with "I forgot who the other one was, but one of them was Jumpy" or anything similar. You could've also chosen to keep your role hidden longer and just go along with just your feels for Jumpy as we were already starting to vote for him.

It's not convenient. If I had to GUESS on memory, I think he said the other he checked was Local. The whole thing is irrelevant. He didn't get real info. So the other name is not relevant either.

If this is true, then Jumpy might not even be a wolf or the dick. Local was wolf. So you're still going after Jumpy by saying you had evidence on him beyond just feels. Though now you're saying it was just your and Tubby's feels.


In the end, you blew your trust in the way you presented everything. At best, if you are actually getting early-access to Christina's cookies, then we can consider revisiting Jumpy tomorrow.

 

[Jon]

In the end, you blew your trust in the way you presented everything. At best, if you are actually getting early-access to Christina's cookies, then we can consider revisiting Jumpy tomorrow.

Do whatever you want. Honestly. You're gonna feel pretty stupid if you lynch me, but it is what it is.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Well... we're fucked.

Please tell me SOMEONE got information on who the Evil Dick is...

 

[shortkut]

Do whatever you want. Honestly. You're gonna feel pretty stupid if you lynch me, but it is what it is.

I always feel stupid

 

[Fool's Requiem]

I always feel stupid

we're all dum-dums

 

[Benzine]

@Jon what was the info you wanted to gain with your ploy?

 

[shortkut]

Well... we're fucked.

Please tell me SOMEONE got information on who the Evil Dick is...

I got some info on it

 

[Jon]

@Jon what was the info you wanted to gain with your ploy?

Affirming my belief that Jump is evil. Based on his response, I believe he is.

 

[Benzine]

Thanks @Jon. Remind me, have you stated specifically which role you are, or just one of the dead talking ones? Don't feel pressured to say it at this point if you haven't already. I'm sure we'd have seen something more if it was anything but ritualist - but ritualist also still can help if they are killed. Just something for me to weigh up when I have to make a decision on what hurts the least to lose.

For the scoreboard, there's GwJ in as a seer's apprentice, going into spirit seer from Tubby's death, who looked at one person, but didn't realise he could look at many. Totally fine in my mind. And he is suspected for this by some, and this plus slightly more for a reaction to Jon's ploy by Jon.

Jon has claimed he's made a ploy after commenting that someone gave him info in deadland and that info is GwJ is bad. Reads in order than Jon could've been caught out, but really this tracks totally fine to me too, Jon is in the midst of trying new things, and Tubby is an awful human who'd have told him to lie in the dead thread.

@shortkut what role are you? The Bully's shenanigans sounds like you to me.

@Tommy Boy when you say no info today do you think there'll ever be info? Do you need help?

 

[shortkut]

@shortkut what role are you? The Bully's shenanigans sounds like you to me

If I were the bully, I would throw all my rocks day 1

 

[Benzine]

If I were the bully, I would throw all my rocks day 1

While I fully believe that you would've asked to do that, and would do that if you could...

 

[shortkut]

While I fully believe that you would've asked to do that, and would do that if you could...

Im ambidextrous, I could at least throw two rocks at a time

 

[Fool's Requiem]

If I were the bully, I would throw all my rocks day 1

Bully can only throw one rock per day.

the bully can only shoot a rock once per day.

 

[shortkut]

Bully can only throw one rock per day.

That’s stupid

 

[Jon]

Thanks @Jon. Remind me, have you stated specifically which role you are, or just one of the dead talking ones? Don't feel pressured to say it at this point if you haven't already. I'm sure we'd have seen something more if it was anything but ritualist - but ritualist also still can help if they are killed. Just something for me to weigh up when I have to make a decision on what hurts the least to lose.

It doesn't matter anymore, really, but yes, Ritualist. Hence my saying I'd like to have a confirmed townie by end of phase.

If I were the bully, I would throw all my rocks day 1

As Benzine alluded to, you couldn't

 

[Fool's Requiem]

That’s stupid

Here's the real question...

Would you bother reading the description of a role you've been given?

 

[Benzine]

It doesn't matter anymore, really, but yes, Ritualist. Hence my saying I'd like to have a confirmed townie by end of phase.


As Benzine alluded to, you couldn't

The only way to confirm a townie for sure is for something like a priest to kill. You are going to have to try your best and make a huge play. If you knew the roles earlier you'd have been able to make a better judgment imo. Try and res someone who can help the town as much as possible.

If you're good, of course.

I have no idea who to vote for. I want to hear @Tommy Boy

 

[shortkut]

Here's the real question...

Would you bother reading the description of a role you've been given?

Usually yes. If I’ve had it before then no, and the changes will be a surprise

 

[Fool's Requiem]

I have this really weird suspicion that Tommy is the Evil Dick.

 

[shortkut]

I have this really weird suspicion that Tommy is the Evil Dick.

Ask his girlfriend

 

[Jon]

The only way to confirm a townie for sure is for something like a priest to kill. You are going to have to try your best and make a huge play. If you knew the roles earlier you'd have been able to make a better judgment imo. Try and res someone who can help the town as much as possible.

For now I have it on the person whom I put it on night 1. There has been no better target to this point, so it's staying there. Who that is I'm not going to say for now. It's just not me, obviously.

 

[GwJumpman]

Remind me again which role talks to the dead?

 

[A Punched Face]

Remind me again which role talks to the dead?

In this case he said he's the ritualist

 

[shortkut]

For now I have it on the person whom I put it on night 1. There has been no better target to this point, so it's staying there. Who that is I'm not going to say for now. It's just not me, obviously.

 

[shortkut]

Remind me again which role talks to the dead?

Haley Joel Osment

 

[A Punched Face]

Ask his girlfriend

Brb gonna ask my wife to translate "evil penis" into Mandarin.