Zell Wolf The dead-land 13: A never-ending corridor of bland

[TD]

Honestly if you are a normal seer, would it not be better to say you are a weeker kind of seer? More of a chance your face doesn't getten eaten by wolves.

Absolutely.

Or better yet, don't even claim seer and just try to sway the discussion.

 

[TD]

What I find interesting now: very little role claims.

Which certainly keeps things interesting, but it's a double edged sword.

 

[Christina]

Honestly I think Vash isn't claiming because what's the point. Everybody else, not sure why.

 

[TD]

Maybe - I mean the most likely explanation has been said, but I'm one who always considers every possibility. No matter the odds.

Just like how I've fake claimed seer in almost every game.

 

[Christina]

At this point what is he going to say that will change somebody's mind on what he is or could be?

 

[Mark]

I'm on to you conniving mods, don't worry.

At least until you figure out how to break into PMs

The only way I’ve seen to do that is through the conversation invite aspect of conversations. If a particular user has permission to invite someone into any conversation, they would be able to invite someone else in the view the content… but not without alerting all parties in the conversation first.

 

[TD]

At this point what is he going to say that will change somebody's mind on what he is or could be?

I don't think he really needs to unless pressed. The conclusion seems to be Marksman by the rest of the living.

 

[TD]

Tommy: I'm the Beast Hunter, I'm only going to defend myself, offer nothing of use, and say don't lynch me.



If he is, what're the odds his trap is on himself like every other boring beast hunter?

 

[TD]

FR should just blast Tommy.

Or anyone really.

Seriously.

Anyone.

 

[Christina]

Can we stop with the thought that day 1 is always a bust? It never really is, it's just the info is rarely so straight forward as a seer read. Its more reading how people are acting. A wolf was hit first night after day 1. Meaning somebody had a good read. I always feel like more info comes out in day 1 than any other day.

 

[Christina]

To add the lynch on day 1 adds more to figuring out the wolves than the random number kill on night 0.

 

[TD]

Can we stop with the thought that day 1 is always a bust? It never really is, it's just the info is rarely so straight forward as a seer read. Its more reading how people are acting. A wolf was hit first night after day 1. Meaning somebody had a good read. I always feel like more info comes out in day 1 than any other day.

I agree.

I've always advocated for Day 1 lynches, always.

Even if you kill a townie, vote analysis is a real thing.

Of the 7 that voted me, 3 are dead. 2 were wolves, 1 townie (but potentially hit by Corruptor).

The problem is and always has been that a lot of people don't believe in the power of discussion, reactions, and yes - even mislynches.

People rely too much on waiting for seers to come out with information when most can be tricked one way or the other or even lied about.

Seers are overrated.

 

[Christina]

Self preservation is huge. Some people feel like they failed if they get killed. Some really like to feel 100% sure before they kill somebody else, because nobody wants to kill a teammate. Some people will dig and dig for info and freeze and not make a choice because of the what ifs. It's just not a game that's good for that. I do think a lot more people have figured that out and are doing better.

 

[TD]

Self preservation is huge. Some people feel like they failed if they get killed. Some really like to feel 100% sure before they kill somebody else, because nobody wants to kill a teammate. Some people will dig and dig for info and freeze and not make a choice because of the what ifs. It's just not a game that's good for that. I do think a lot more people have figured that out and are doing better.

Meanwhile you got clowns like me actively trying to get themselves lynched because nothing is happening to leave people with something to work with and so I can have a private chat with known towns without outside noise from the bads, along with a potentially resurrectable gunner.

yes that was actually my plan

 

[TD]

@Zell 17

Does beast hunter prevent corruption?

 

[TD]

I'm glad the wolves didn't eat a townie last night, but I'm disappointed Raine will have an excuse to report two blue reads again.

Does Kat not realize that if Raine is corrupted, she's dead unless they find the Corruptor?

 

[Zell 17]

@Zell 17

Does beast hunter prevent corruption?

Yes, their trap would prevent corruption if it's probably set and all that. Corruptor wouldn't die, an attempt to corrupt a player who is trapped would "spring" the trap (meaning BH would have to reset it).

So if a BH had a trap on themselves and they were the only ones left with a Corruptor, the sequence would go:

Day: Tie vote
Night: Corruptor attacks BH (trap springs / BH protected)
Day: Tie vote
Night: Corruptor attacks BH (successful)
Day: Corruptor votes off BH

 

[TD]

Thanks.

That's what I thought, Tommy claimed Beast Hunter and said the only way he'll die is if the Corruptor kills him tomorrow which confused me.

 

[TD]

FR IS TALKING ABOUT SHOOTING.

DON'T ASK THEM, JUST SHOOT THEM.

 

[TD]

Zell still has flashbacks to when I was a gunner, about to get lynched, and I never pulled the trigger to let everyone know who I was lol.

*Marksman

 

[TD]

 

[TD]

This is yesterday all over again.

constantly refreshing for the shot
constantly waiting for someone to start a bandwagon

 

[Zell 17]

Zell Wolf - GWF Zell Wolf Volume XIII Day 3

kut is always on my sus radar.

gwforums.com

This is it, he's shooting Kat!

 

[Christina]

It's Fools, I have no idea what he will do. I think he's going to shoot Vash or Kut

 

[TD]

I popped back in just in time...

 

[Zell 17]

It's Fools, I have no idea what he will do. I think he's going to shoot Vash or Kut

Shooting Vash would be second-funniest to me behind Kat

 

[TD]

I think it's gonna be Tommy or Local.

 

[Christina]

Shooting Raine is up there too. She's either a wolf caught by the corruptor. A seer caught by the curruptor. Or the curruptor trying to pretend to be muted to help hide. None of those work out come tomorrow.

 

[TD]

Shooting Raine would be rough for the Corruptor.

 

[Christina]

I should also read what the corruptor does instead of using context clues, but I don't want to.

 

[TD]

I should also read what the corruptor does instead of using context clues, but I don't want to.

I could tell you if you like.

 

[Christina]

It's all good. I'll be back in a few to see who got shot.

Also funny if he just doesn't shot anybody and said it just to get people to shut up.

 

[TD]

FR: just kidding I'm pulling a TD, logging off for a bit, and seeing how people react.

 

[Smacktard]

Shooting Raine is up there too. She's either a wolf caught by the corruptor. A seer caught by the curruptor. Or the curruptor trying to pretend to be muted to help hide. None of those work out come tomorrow.

If she's Corruptor, it could be that she's waiting for FR to use up his bullets before she's like "sorry I was busy blol anyway I checked these two people and saw red"

 

[TD]

If she's Corruptor, it could be that she's waiting for FR to use up his bullets before she's like "sorry I was busy blol anyway I checked these two people and saw red"

Fuck sake.

I could totally see her doing this.

 

[Zell 17]

 

[TD]

 

[TD]

 

[TD]

living thread and dead thread are growing restless

 

[Christina]

Oh look I didn't miss anything. Fools has us all in the palm of his hand.

 

[TD]

I'm so proud of him.

 

[Christina]

Maybe he was trying to shake the branches and see who freaks out the most.

 

[TD]

This shit is exactly what I would do.

"I'm taking the shot soon. It's not who you'd expect."

wait for reactions and paranoia

 

[TD]

shortkut.

Everyone who voted for me is getting taken out.

 

[TD]

@Zell 17

Come back he did it lol

 

[Christina]

Now Zell has me waiting. I was sus on kut on day 1, but I'm always sus on kut so I just chalk it up to that.

 

[TD]

AT LEAST three wolves voted for me Day 1???

Wtf??

 

[TD]

Well I think we got our answer as to whether TD could get himself lynched as the Fool without the wolves shadowing.

Hey Zell,

Turns out you were right.

They'll just openly do it instead.

 

[Benzine]

having a fun game like this will make fools feel better about all his early deaths

 

[TD]

The Corruptor lives on.