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I'm going to start complimenting men on their clothes and see what reactions I get.

Men don’t value compliments because they’re usually either backhanded or there’s some sort of ulterior motive, but that’s not much different from the same way circles of women can be.
I mostly get them from strangers passing, so there's no reason for me to suspect their motives or sincerity.
 
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I'm going to start complimenting men on their clothes and see what reactions I get.


I mostly get them from strangers passing, so there's no reason for me to suspect their motives or sincerity.
see but there's a reason women don't.

*a lot* of men, (even ones you'd think are conventionally "attractive" or that you suspect has dated a lot, even married, don't always understand "random" passing compliments from women.

as Alu pointed out, there's a lot of men out there who think a compliment means the other person is attracted to you, and as I'm sure you known that can raise a lot of issues for women.
 

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I'm going to start complimenting men on their clothes and see what reactions I get.

Don’t be surprised if you get the side eye or straight up ignored like you’re not speaking to them. Like @Cole said, dudes typically only get complimented in certain settings by certain people. Throw one compliment out there when you’re crossing paths in a hallway and that’s a total system reset, it does not compute to the average dude.

I mostly get them from strangers passing, so there's no reason for me to suspect their motives or sincerity.

I meant that more in line with the second meme I shared, but you can ascertain motive fairly easy. You aren’t going to think anything of a gay dude complimenting you, but if a straight dude does it you’re likely going to assume he’s flirting, right? Those are really the only two “safe” scenarios where a guy can compliment a stranger thanks to the ones that don’t know how to act. So, you can almost put your money on one or the other. Bob from Accounting who’s single but aware isn’t gonna risk the HR write up even if he thinks the sparkles on your shoes are bitchin’ sweet, but married and miserable John from Sales and creepy Joe from Marketing sure as hell isn’t gonna care about a write up if they think they can charm you.

I dunno… I feel like I’m doing a shitty job explaining this, but it makes me thankful that I’m not out there dating like that anymore. People suck. It’s all complicated by people being shitty to one another.
 

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the bottom line is men suck. there aren't a lot of great examples out there, (I'm certainly a piece of shit).

some are considerably worse than others, and the ones that are worse than the others are also LOUDER than the "decent" ones.

women have developed an aversion to complimenting or sometimes even approaching strangers that are men because of the risk of one of the "worse" ones. as a man, I don't blame them.

but as a man I also understand what it does to us. it makes the ones that ARE decent men more often than they aren't never hear compliments. if I got new shoes that I liked, or a pair of jeans that I love the fit on, I know for a fact no one but a potential SO is going to just out of no where say they look nice or whatever else.

and sometimes women even in marriages/serious relationships DONT compliment their spouse as often as the man might compliment her. and it can feel a little demoralizing.

there's a lot of shitty men out there, like, scum of the earth shitty. and the things they do often times (understandably) makes them have a general passive fear of men.

and sometimes the "decent" men suffer for it.
 

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Personally, I like receiving compliments, but I only ever get them from my wife, my parents, and students that try to suck up to me (I don't like these ones). Sometimes strangers compliment me on different things, which is nice. I prefer compliments about things I have rather than who I am, if that makes sense. If a student says "best teacher ever!" it just makes me want to call them a suck-up nerd and tell them to shut up 😂

When dating, girls who were into me often didn't give my compliments until after we hooked up.

I only ever really get compliments on:
  • My mushroom shirt (people love mushrooms)
  • My bag (it's a really nice and unique bag)
  • My beard
That's mostly it. There's one or two more things, but I won't mention them.

Guys don't compliment each other. We show our love for each other by teasing each other.

Girls don't often compliment guys because of the fear they'll take it the wrong way. I think girls that are interested in you tend to withhold compliments as a way to sort of maintain a position of power. I don't think it's done consciously, but I've noticed with girls I've hooked up with that they're more generous with compliments (about anything) after we hooked up.
 

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the bottom line is men suck. there aren't a lot of great examples out there, (I'm certainly a piece of shit).

We can’t leave women out of the mix, though. There are some awful examples of women out there, whether it’s as minor as a demoralizing spouse because she doesn’t compliment you or as major as someone who gives praise and compliments as a reward as opposed to the consequences for lack of adherence… ridicule and disrespect.

some are considerably worse than others, and the ones that are worse than the others are also LOUDER than the "decent" ones.

Agreed. It’s the straight piped and lifted Dodge Ram attitude in another form.

women have developed an aversion to complimenting or sometimes even approaching strangers that are men because of the risk of one of the "worse" ones. as a man, I don't blame them.

Agreed. In some instances, it’s not even SAFE to approach a strange man as a woman, let alone offer a compliment.

but as a man I also understand what it does to us. it makes the ones that ARE decent men more often than they aren't never hear compliments. if I got new shoes that I liked, or a pair of jeans that I love the fit on, I know for a fact no one but a potential SO is going to just out of no where say they look nice or whatever else.

I NEVER got any compliments from my ex. She was so goddamn vain and self-absorbed, so at a certain point… I felt like a prop. So, even if a random girl did flirt with me, it’s not like I would have taken it seriously anyway. There is a whole subsection of people out there that deliberately withhold compliments from their SO for the sake of sowing seeds of doubt in their head whenever they’d hear compliments from others OR to make their praise carry that much more weight when they finally receive it.

and sometimes women even in marriages/serious relationships DONT compliment their spouse as often as the man might compliment her. and it can feel a little demoralizing.

Demoralizing is a mild way of putting it, but also the best case scenario most people find themselves in when dealing with one-sided relationships like you describe.

there's a lot of shitty men out there, like, scum of the earth shitty. and the things they do often times (understandably) makes them have a general passive fear of men.

and sometimes the "decent" men suffer for it.

…and if they don’t end up suffering, they still end up cleaning up someone else’s mess or spending time that could be better spent on the aftermath of those kinds of people.

Personally, I like receiving compliments, but I only ever get them from my wife, my parents, and students that try to suck up to me (I don't like these ones). Sometimes strangers compliment me on different things, which is nice. I prefer compliments about things I have rather than who I am, if that makes sense. If a student says "best teacher ever!" it just makes me want to call them a suck-up nerd and tell them to shut up 😂

Compliments are weird for me. They’re rare enough outside of my relationship, so I pretty much take what I get with gratitude and stay humble. I always give props where it’s due, though… but I’d bet that’s some psychological response to never receiving compliments myself.

When dating, girls who were into me often didn't give my compliments until after we hooked up.

Par for the course.

Guys don't compliment each other. We show our love for each other by teasing each other.

It depends, I don’t hesitate to let my friends know I’m proud of them for accomplishing something or that I appreciate them. General physical compliments? “Hey, you don’t look like shit today, you sleep?” is about as far as it goes.

Girls don't often compliment guys because of the fear they'll take it the wrong way. I think girls that are interested in you tend to withhold compliments as a way to sort of maintain a position of power. I don't think it's done consciously, but I've noticed with girls I've hooked up with that they're more generous with compliments (about anything) after we hooked up.

It’s the “give an inch, take a mile” mentality. You’re right, it’s a tactic for power plays.
 

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It’s the “give an inch, take a mile” mentality. You’re right, it’s a tactic for power plays.
I don't know if I'd go so far as to call it a power play. I think that there's a certain vulnerability that occurs when you give someone a compliment, especially in an intimate and sincere way that shows you're interested in the person sexually/romantically. I think women withhold compliments because of this vulnerability. It would be embarrassing to signal that you're interested in a guy, to then have him shoot you down.

I keep saying "women women women", but in honesty I tended not to give compliments to women until after we were intimate either. It wasn't a conscious thing -- I'm just not comfortable giving compliments about appearance as a man -- and the same "opening yourself up to vulnerability" thing applies here, too.
 

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Throw one compliment out there when you’re crossing paths in a hallway and that’s a total system reset, it does not compute to the average dude.
That's what I'm hoping for! I bet it'll be like holding doors for men: uneventful 90% of the time and fucking hilarious the other 10% because they cannot even process what just happened.

Girls don't often compliment guys because of the fear they'll take it the wrong way. I think girls that are interested in you tend to withhold compliments as a way to sort of maintain a position of power. I don't think it's done consciously, but I've noticed with girls I've hooked up with that they're more generous with compliments (about anything) after we hooked up.
I never realized it before it came up here, but I compliment women regularly and cannot think of a single time I've complimented a man. I'm not intentionally avoiding it, I'm not afraid of anything bad happening, I just... don't. It's interesting the cultural norms you never stop to think about
 

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It's strange to think about it, but at my old work while we were before the pandemic and still going into the office we actually made it a culture of complimenting eachother. Turned it into a race to see who would be the first to mention a new haircut, always commented on new glasses or shoes, and all kinds of things. I guess that's part of the reason why it took a while for me to leave.
 

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...is this a thing? What actually happens? I've had it happen and it's just a simple thank you, then I go about my day
I think we've had prior discussions on this site about Canadian vs American mentalities towards door holding, and they are a little different.
 
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That's what I'm hoping for! I bet it'll be like holding doors for men: uneventful 90% of the time and fucking hilarious the other 10% because they cannot even process what just happened.

Using your other example, it catches me off guard when my girl opens the door for me, and I definitely get some weird looks when we’re in public and she does it… but we’ve always had a practical outlook on that kinda shit. Whoever’s closest. As far as general compliments go… the only example that really comes to mind in recent years was back when my ex and I were together. There was this one particular girl that worked at Dunkin Donuts that used to go out of her way to flirt with me when I had my ex with me. She would never say anything out of line when it was just me, and I proved it multiple times by having my ex sit silently on the phone as I’d approach the window. As a single man… that kinda stuff doesn’t happen. If I’m in a vehicle by myself, or approach a woman in that kind of customer service setting alone, the interaction is almost always very neutral. However, throw a female into the passenger seat with me, with clear indications we’re an item or not, and the whole dynamic changes because suddenly the woman at the drive-thru window either feels more comfortable or, in the example I provided with my ex… the woman wants to get my attention over the female that I’m clearly with for whatever reason. Generally, most dudes I know have similar experiences. They get hit on if they have a wedding ring, and notice women eyeing them when they’re with their wives or families, but if they’re alone with no indication of an attachment… they have zero interaction to speak of.

I never realized it before it came up here, but I compliment women regularly and cannot think of a single time I've complimented a man. I'm not intentionally avoiding it, I'm not afraid of anything bad happening, I just... don't. It's interesting the cultural norms you never stop to think about

Exactly, you’re accustomed to women appreciating that validation and men not requiring it.

It's strange to think about it, but at my old work while we were before the pandemic and still going into the office we actually made it a culture of complimenting eachother. Turned it into a race to see who would be the first to mention a new haircut, always commented on new glasses or shoes, and all kinds of things. I guess that's part of the reason why it took a while for me to leave.

Y’all must be some really fucking nice people. Makes me sick. It’s weird here, though… it really depends on who you’re interacting with that determines what kind of likelihood you have of receiving a compliment or having someone be receptive of one. It’s generally the opposite of what you’d think… like a random dude on the street would sooner compliment you on your shirt than, say… someone that lives in the same apartment building as you that you cross paths with every day.

This is 100% true for me and pretty much every other man I know. The compliments are quite often one sided and the ratio is awful.

We’re really only just now getting to a point where men’s mental health is being taken seriously… we’re a ways off of men’s self-esteem and self-worth being an issue that matters, especially when as we’ve all stressed in this thread… the bad dudes make it that much more difficult for the good dudes.

Agreed. We have some awesome people here in general, quite frankly if we didn't, I wouldn't be here or want to spend spare time here. (and yeah Cole, that counts you)

Absolutely. Everyone might not agree on everything all the time, but there’s definitely a solid foundation of solid people here.

...is this a thing? What actually happens? I've had it happen and it's just a simple thank you, then I go about my day.

Just another nuance of Murican culture, my friend.

This is actually quite interesting. I never really thought about it but working remotely on a team of mostly women - there's a lot of compliments that go around for most people. I don't know if remote work impacted that but yeah.

Remote work did… trigger happy HR departments did… sleazy ass coworkers did…
 
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It's strange to think about it, but at my old work while we were before the pandemic and still going into the office we actually made it a culture of complimenting eachother.
That's so sweet and wholesome. I bet that was a pleasant place to work. I've been trying to get people on my team to give recognitions for each other, because that's something we did at my last job that everyone seemed to appreciate, but they never ever do it. They're also all men. Maybe that's why?

...is this a thing? What actually happens? I've had it happen and it's just a simple thank you, then I go about my day.
Oh yeah, it's a thing. My favorite time was at a Wendy's with a vestibule. I was walking up, and an older couple beat me to the door. The woman waited for her husband to open the door, and since I arrived while she was walking through, he held it for me, too. She stood at the next set of doors waiting for him to open those too, so I did it and held it for them both. He was so flustered, hands in the air, sputtering, completely lost for words. You'd think I'd started levitating in front of him, he was so surprised and bewildered.

I can only assume they weren't from around here, as their behavior was very strange, and it seemed he'd never had that happen to him before.

The more common situation is I'll hold the first set of doors (I always stand behind the door and hold it if it opens towards me, it's just less awkward IMO), and the guy will rush to the second set and make a big show of getting it for me. Women never do that.

I've never had anyone be rude or seem upset, but it definitely throws some guys for a loop.

Exactly, you’re accustomed to women appreciating that validation and men not requiring it.
I don't think it's that. I haven't had any reason to think men would appreciate it less. My guess is it's a combination of women compliment me so I do it to others to "pay it forward", and that I just don't notice guys' haircuts or clothes.
 

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Agreed. We have some awesome people here in general, quite frankly if we didn't, I wouldn't be here or want to spend spare time here. (and yeah Cole, that counts you)
As are you, TD ;)
Using your other example, it catches me off guard when my girl opens the door for me, and I definitely get some weird looks when we’re in public and she does it… but we’ve always had a practical outlook on that kinda shit. Whoever’s closest. As far as general compliments go… the only example that really comes to mind in recent years was back when my ex and I were together. There was this one particular girl that worked at Dunkin Donuts that used to go out of her way to flirt with me when I had my ex with me. She would never say anything out of line when it was just me, and I proved it multiple times by having my ex sit silently on the phone as I’d approach the window. As a single man… that kinda stuff doesn’t happen. If I’m in a vehicle by myself, or approach a woman in that kind of customer service setting alone, the interaction is almost always very neutral. However, throw a female into the passenger seat with me, with clear indications we’re an item or not, and the whole dynamic changes because suddenly the woman at the drive-thru window either feels more comfortable or, in the example I provided with my ex… the woman wants to get my attention over the female that I’m clearly with for whatever reason. Generally, most dudes I know have similar experiences. They get hit on if they have a wedding ring, and notice women eyeing them when they’re with their wives or families, but if they’re alone with no indication of an attachment… they have zero interaction to speak of.
Because you've been vetted, you're trustworthy ;)
 

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you guys are sweet, but my point about men sucking is that none of us have any idea what any of us are like "at home".

maybe TD is abusing his wife. maybe Mark has a side piece.

you guys are decent guys, but I have no idea what any of you are like when you're in your home with your wife and family. maybe you're a horrible person.

and yes, women can be too. but my personal history has historically been very favorable for women and not so much for men.

I've met the tiniest handful of men that I truly trust to just be "good" men.
 

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you guys are sweet, but my point about men sucking is that none of us have any idea what any of us are like "at home".

maybe TD is abusing his wife. maybe Mark has a side piece.

you guys are decent guys, but I have no idea what any of you are like when you're in your home with your wife and family. maybe you're a horrible person.

and yes, women can be too. but my personal history has historically been very favorable for women and not so much for men.

I've met the tiniest handful of men that I truly trust to just be "good" men.

I get that, and it’s an easier assumption to make about men because it’s historically more likely to be accurate, but there has definitely been a major shift in some social circles with how some women treat men as well. We’re hearing more and more about women treating men badly, and the stigma around that type of relationship dynamic is changing where more and more men are coming out and saying “you know what… this chick is BAD news.” because they’re not afraid of being ridiculed for it as badly as they were before. I’ve seen plenty examples of women taking dudes I know for rides, playing childish games, and the gauntlet of every other headache imaginable for what can only be summarized as “for sport”. Everybody hears about the guy that sleeps around and acts like a dog to women, but people are just now starting to acknowledge to women out there that do comparable bullshit.
 

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I get that, and it’s an easier assumption to make about men because it’s historically more likely to be accurate, but there has definitely been a major shift in some social circles with how some women treat men as well. We’re hearing more and more about women treating men badly, and the stigma around that type of relationship dynamic is changing where more and more men are coming out and saying “you know what… this chick is BAD news.” because they’re not afraid of being ridiculed for it as badly as they were before. I’ve seen plenty examples of women taking dudes I know for rides, playing childish games, and the gauntlet of every other headache imaginable for what can only be summarized as “for sport”. Everybody hears about the guy that sleeps around and acts like a dog to women, but people are just now starting to acknowledge to women out there that do comparable bullshit.
I have been in an abusive relationship, I know how horrible women can be too.

but all I can use is my personal history, and from the moment I was born, the VAST majority of men in my life turned out to be shitty.

whereas the number of women has been significantly smaller.
 
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A little research says 5 minutes on high in the microwave should be equivalent to approx 20 minutes at 375 in a conventional oven.

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I have no idea what's going on in that picture.

I’m glad I ain’t the only one… @Gloom-is-good … the hell are you doing over there? You alright?

I took this from my office window shortly before I retired. I think it has a "Narnia-esk" quality.

I certainly wouldn’t mind that view for an office.
 

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You can't see it in that photo, but off in the distance we could see the '64 Worlds Fair Unisphere and iconic New York State Pavillion towers that were used as "space ships" in the original Men In Black movie.
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