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In that he's so dumb he managed to simultaneously misgender her, but also acknowledge that he needs to transition before it's "okay" to hit her since she is, in fact, a woman.
He's obviously dumb, but I took it to mean he'd transition so he'd be allowed to compete in women's sports and fight her, so she couldn't escape competing against a man like she "should" be doing. As if any dude would actually medically transition to being a woman just to prove a point about sports rules.

It'd be hilarious if he really did it and got his ass whooped by women.
 
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He's obviously dumb, but I took it to mean he'd transition so he'd be allowed to compete in women's sports and fight her, so she couldn't escape competing against a man like she "should" be doing. As if any dude would actually medically transition to being a woman just to prove a point about sports rules.

It'd be hilarious if he really did it and got his ass whooped by women.
Even taking that out of the equation, going through HRT would be one hell of a rollercoaster for him. I seriously doubt he'd be able to handle it.
 

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He's obviously dumb, but I took it to mean he'd transition so he'd be allowed to compete in women's sports and fight her, so she couldn't escape competing against a man like she "should" be doing. As if any dude would actually medically transition to being a woman just to prove a point about sports rules.

It'd be hilarious if he really did it and got his ass whooped by women.
I want him to do it just so he has to eventually concede transitioning is a horrible process and he's not "man enough" to handle it.
 

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my first year teaching was at a tiny tiny high school with an enrollment of less than 400 kids total so we were in the tiniest athletic conference. and we actually had the proverbial “girl on the football team”! however unlike most cases where the girl is the kicker this girl was built like a brick shithouse and she loved playing on the offensive line. she would line up against dudes who would see they were lined up against a girl and kind of laugh or chuckle so she knew they weren’t taking her seriously. and she would put them right on their ass. and she LIVED for that shit. anyway i hope for this guys sake that he doesn’t actually follow through with this plan because he would get his ass turbo beat






lol jk i hope he rots
 

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my first year teaching was at a tiny tiny high school with an enrollment of less than 400 kids total so we were in the tiniest athletic conference. and we actually had the proverbial “girl on the football team”! however unlike most cases where the girl is the kicker this girl was built like a brick shithouse and she loved playing on the offensive line. she would line up against dudes who would see they were lined up against a girl and kind of laugh or chuckle so she knew they weren’t taking her seriously. and she would put them right on their ass. and she LIVED for that shit.
Fuck yeah, go sis!
anyway i hope for this guys sake that he doesn’t actually follow through with this plan because he would get his ass turbo beat






lol jk i hope he rots
This!
 
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I want him to do it just so he has to eventually concede transitioning is a horrible process and he's not "man enough" to handle it.
Guarandamntee you he'd be telling a different story once he experiences the struggles of being a trans woman.

my first year teaching was at a tiny tiny high school with an enrollment of less than 400 kids total so we were in the tiniest athletic conference. and we actually had the proverbial “girl on the football team”! however unlike most cases where the girl is the kicker this girl was built like a brick shithouse and she loved playing on the offensive line. she would line up against dudes who would see they were lined up against a girl and kind of laugh or chuckle so she knew they weren’t taking her seriously. and she would put them right on their ass. and she LIVED for that shit. anyway i hope for this guys sake that he doesn’t actually follow through with this plan because he would get his ass turbo beat






lol jk i hope he rots
The vindictive side of me wants to see him get his ass kicked to Kingdom Come by a woman just to put him in his place. People like him deserve it.
 
He's obviously dumb, but I took it to mean he'd transition so he'd be allowed to compete in women's sports and fight her, so she couldn't escape competing against a man like she "should" be doing. As if any dude would actually medically transition to being a woman just to prove a point about sports rules.

It'd be hilarious if he really did it and got his ass whooped by women.
Also a fair consideration! But then it's noteworthy in that in this scenario he'd still wants to transition and join the women's division to beat up a "fellow man" for... :confused2

Like the one dipshit Crystal was arguing with, guy's (probably not) finding out that you better think and word this shit super carefully unless they want to have things easily twisted. So much for being strong macho men, y'know? ;)

my first year teaching was at a tiny tiny high school with an enrollment of less than 400 kids total so we were in the tiniest athletic conference. and we actually had the proverbial “girl on the football team”! however unlike most cases where the girl is the kicker this girl was built like a brick shithouse and she loved playing on the offensive line. she would line up against dudes who would see they were lined up against a girl and kind of laugh or chuckle so she knew they weren’t taking her seriously. and she would put them right on their ass. and she LIVED for that shit. anyway i hope for this guys sake that he doesn’t actually follow through with this plan because he would get his ass turbo beat
Strong girls are the best! :love:

I believe I mentioned her... somewhere, probably in this thread. But in the long ago past life, at my physical peak, I was always paired up with and sparring against a cis woman named Tiffany. Who could easily hold her own against me - which, of course, meant she could (and did) steamroll the fuck out of most guys on the regular.

Toxic masc dumbasses have literally no idea what they're up against or on about. Dude should absolutely transition and get his shit utterly stomped by the bulk of the women's division.
 
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Also a fair consideration! But then it's noteworthy in that in this scenario he'd still wants to transition and join the women's division to beat up a "fellow man" for... :confused2

Like the one dipshit Crystal was arguing with, guy's (probably not) finding out that you better think and word this shit super carefully unless they want to have things easily twisted. So much for being strong macho men, y'know? ;)
Nothing says macho more than wanting an excuse to beat up on a woman just for being trans and you know, going about her business as any other woman would. /s

Says a lot about how much of a piece of shit this fuckwad is.

Strong girls are the best! :love:

I believe I mentioned her... somewhere, probably in this thread. But in the long ago past life, at my physical peak, I was always paired up with and sparring against a cis woman named Tiffany. Who could easily hold her own against me - which, of course, meant she could (and did) steamroll the fuck out of most guys on the regular.
Yep, I know women out there who could definitely compete at the same level as men because they were just that damn good at what they did. Goes to show that you should never take women for being inferior or weak.

Toxic masc dumbasses have literally no idea what they're up against or on about. Dude should absolutely transition and get his shit utterly stomped by the bulk of the women's division.
Oh, I hope he fucking does. I want to see this prick get everything he deserves and then some!
 
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Leaked emails showing concerns about the lack of preparedness going into the care of trans patients going forward. 2 years ago, the decision was made to shut down the Tavistock centre, with plans to replace it with 2 new regional hubs. However, a report from February of last year detailed there were no locations, staff, or services planned, basically leaving trans patients high & dry. Fast forward to today, and everyone's still left in the dark about what's going to happen.

 
The way I look at it is: The more they apply the words/phrases to asinine shit the less effective they are and the murkier the definition gets. It eventually reaches a point where it's just white noise and they either have to shut the fuck up finally, or move onto something else. Applying "woke" to the bridge tragedy(?) and its inevitable reconstruction will de facto turn away 99.9% of people, even those that would ostensibly be in their corner otherwise.

See also: Soy(boy), CRT, other things I can't actually be bothered to remember at this precise moment. :chuckle
 
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The way I look at it is: The more they apply the words/phrases to asinine shit the less effective they are and the murkier the definition gets. It eventually reaches a point where it's just white noise and they either have to shut the fuck up finally, or move onto something else. Applying "woke" to the bridge tragedy(?) and its inevitable reconstruction will de facto turn away 99.9% of people, even those that would ostensibly be in their corner otherwise.
Let them embarrass themselves, show the world how uneducated & immature they are.

See also: Soy(boy), CRT, other things I can't actually be bothered to remember at this precise moment. :chuckle
Nope, not even going to bother wasting my time on their buzzwords. I will instead dedicate my time to hugs & video games. :hugs
 
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If Trump gets elected this cycle, sure. But otherwise that won't happen, and even in blue states that think voting R is acceptable behavior they don't have the support necessary to shove things through nor keep them there. The map looks like basically every other red state map for better or worse:


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If Trump gets elected this cycle, sure. But otherwise that won't happen, and even in blue states that think voting R is acceptable behavior they don't have the support necessary to shove things through nor keep them there. The map looks like basically every other red state map for better or worse:


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If he gets the trifecta, then we might very well see that happen as well as many other laws that will impose further restrictions upon the lives of trans people. Fingers crossed the fucker doesn't get elected. His first presidency in itself had disastrous consequences.
 
Trump getting re-elected will absolutely have damning consequences, and I'm equal parts curious and scared to see what makes the cut versus what doesn't. The Republican party has a finite amount of red meat for their base, but all of that red meat is, of course, absolutely fucking terrible in practice and so none of the idiots would want it once they have it. Plus then the Republicans can't dangle those morsels in front of their rabid beasts to garner support in future elections, sort of how like Roe v Wade isn't there for them to use anymore and is hurting them, and they don't like/want that.

Democracy is functionally dead at that point for starters though, so it would not remotely surprise me to see the west coast functionally if not actually secede. To see NY+NJ+New England do the same. Infighting, coups, raids and riots - it'll be a wild time and I personally ain't ruling nothing out. I'll just be eating my popcorn on my flaming dumpster floating down shit creek towards the void, probably. 🤔
 
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Trump getting re-elected will absolutely have damning consequences, and I'm equal parts curious and scared to see what makes the cut versus what doesn't. The Republican party has a finite amount of red meat for their base, but all of that red meat is, of course, absolutely fucking terrible in practice and so none of the idiots would want it once they have it. Plus then the Republicans can't dangle those morsels in front of their rabid beasts to garner support in future elections, sort of how like Roe v Wade isn't there for them to use anymore and is hurting them, and they don't like/want that.

Democracy is functionally dead at that point for starters though, so it would not remotely surprise me to see the west coast functionally if not actually secede. To see NY+NJ+New England do the same. Infighting, coups, raids and riots - it'll be a wild time and I personally ain't ruling nothing out. I'll just be eating my popcorn on my flaming dumpster floating down shit creek towards the void, probably. 🤔
If he gets re-elected, I'm expecting the worst. The fact that Roe v Wade got overturned says all you need to know about how far they're willing to go to undo any amount of progress that was made over the years. Granted, we still have a long ways to go yet, but the damage such an administration can cause can really set us back to a point where things go back to the way they were when laws prohibited you from being LGBTQ+.
 
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In addition to banning trans healthcare, Kansas plans to implement an age verification system that requires individuals to share their government IDs before they are allowed to access content. Among the content restricted is all LGBTQ+ related material.

 
Just consistently dumb shit. Brainworms as far as the eye can see, doing fuck all but causing anxiety for a subset of people and thinking it means anything. :chuckle

Kansas, like Utah before it, does not have the infrastructure (I mean they're red states FFS, they don't have money! lol) to actually do anything about it. They can't go after websites, and websites aren't going to give a fuck about the state of Kansas. Larger websites might block Kansas IP addresses, maybe, if they're worried about random lawsuits with zero evidence that don't go anywhere. But kids are smarter than adults so they'll use VPNs and shit while the old bigots will QQ about not being able to use PornHub and shit without Big Brother looking over their shoulder. :rolleyes:

But yeah, taxpayer money well spent and all that.
 
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Just consistently dumb shit. Brainworms as far as the eye can see, doing fuck all but causing anxiety for a subset of people and thinking it means anything. :chuckle

Kansas, like Utah before it, does not have the infrastructure (I mean they're red states FFS, they don't have money! lol) to actually do anything about it. They can't go after websites, and websites aren't going to give a fuck about the state of Kansas. Larger websites might block Kansas IP addresses, maybe, if they're worried about random lawsuits with zero evidence that don't go anywhere. But kids are smarter than adults so they'll use VPNs and shit while the old bigots will QQ about not being able to use PornHub and shit without Big Brother looking over their shoulder. :rolleyes:

But yeah, taxpayer money well spent and all that.
Howsabout we direct our focus on tackling the cost of living crisis instead? You know, actually do something that will be of great benefit.
 
Howsabout we direct our focus on tackling the cost of living crisis instead? You know, actually do something that will be of great benefit.
You'd think all these red states getting worse and worse off would eventually start waking the dumbasses up.

But, nope, will never happen. Just more boogeymen and scapegoats.

The ship will right itself any day now! Our children will definitely come back. Companies will definitely start investing in us once all the [INSERT MINORITY] are gone!?

I question whether or not I truly exist, sometimes. Yet these assholes can't even entertain the notion that a singular thought or belief they've been fed is wrong. :shake
 
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You'd think all these red states getting worse and worse off would eventually start waking the dumbasses up.

But, nope, will never happen. Just more boogeymen and scapegoats.

The ship will right itself any day now! Our children will definitely come back. Companies will definitely start investing in us once all the [INSERT MINORITY] are gone!?

I question whether or not I truly exist, sometimes. Yet these assholes can't even entertain the notion that a singular thought or belief they've been fed is wrong. :shake
The GOP and their wars. We've had the war on drugs and the war on terrorism, and we've seen how well that's worked out. Now we've got this stupid culture war, which I'm sure will be equally as pointless as any other war they've declared on whatever they feel like declaring war on.
 

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So if this has been asked here I apologize but it's about pronouns

I get the idea behind them and gender identity, but some use fewer than others and will use one gendered but then un-gendered ones. Like someone will put down "He/him/his" but another person may use "He/they". I understand fully going un-gendered, but I dont understand the mix
It's an expression of gender-fluidity/non-binary as well as an invitation to make use of rolling pronouns. A person might align with and use female pronouns, but express and at times prefer to be non-gendered. I'm not explaining this very well, but yeah, sometimes you can be a man, feel like one, call yourself he, and then break from gender and prefer to be they/them. It's not as flippant as that, but at a high level...
 
So if this has been asked here I apologize but it's about pronouns

I get the idea behind them and gender identity, but some use fewer than others and will use one gendered but then un-gendered ones. Like someone will put down "He/him/his" but another person may use "He/they". I understand fully going un-gendered, but I dont understand the mix
Crystal's got you covered.

Insofar that gender identity is a spectrum without, like, actual anchors/notches/whatever it can be fairly complicated. But, as a general rule of thumb, She/They and He/They would usually be non-binary/non-conforming people that accept (or look/feel like) more of one/a side than another without necessarily strictly adhering to said side.

Our language is very restrictive, so best practice is to ask for preference once you're introduced to or get to know someone. Everyone's a bit different and all that. :)
 
Crystal's got you covered.

Insofar that gender identity is a spectrum without, like, actual anchors/notches/whatever it can be fairly complicated. But, as a general rule of thumb, She/They and He/They would usually be non-binary/non-conforming people that accept (or look/feel like) more of one/a side than another without necessarily strictly adhering to said side.

Our language is very restrictive, so best practice is to ask for preference once you're introduced to or get to know someone. Everyone's a bit different and all that. :)

Thanks that helps!
 
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It's an expression of gender-fluidity/non-binary as well as an invitation to make use of rolling pronouns. A person might align with and use female pronouns, but express and at times prefer to be non-gendered. I'm not explaining this very well, but yeah, sometimes you can be a man, feel like one, call yourself he, and then break from gender and prefer to be they/them. It's not as flippant as that, but at a high level...
Yeah, it's very complicated and I'll admit there are aspects I still don't fully understand when it comes to that. At the same time however, it is important to stress that not everyone falls in line with the gender norms which have been placed upon society. When most people think of gender, they tend to think of the two widely accepted beliefs: The roles and one's biological sex. These are the social constructs in place that define the characteristics of what makes a man a man and a woman a woman, and it's ridiculous imo because not everyone is uniform in that way. Everyone is different, appearances, characteristics & interests vary among individuals.
 

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Small little thing that I thought was nice for Trans Day of Visibility, a bunch of Canadian artists got together to form a letter against our anti-trans legislation.

It's nice to see people banding together to take a stand against anti-trans legislation. We need this in the wake of conservative provinces looking to enact anti-LGBTQ+ legislation (with Saskatchewan going as far as to invoke the Notwithstanding clause to force theirs through). Need to take a stand before it becomes too much of a problem like what's happening down south.
 
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Another thing that's happening in red states. They're trying to install pastors as school counselors because that's going to work out wonderfully. :facepalm

No one should be forced to undergo conversion therapy. It's wrong for someone to be LGBTQ+, but yet conversion therapy is allowed, a practice that's been known to utilize horrific methods of torture in order to coerce people into denouncing being LGBTQ+.
 

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here with some positivity! in the courthouse today i walked through the hall where people have to post their notices of intent to change their name. when i did that myself in 2019 there was one other name similar to mine, changing from a “guy name” to a “girl name”

this time there were no less than six notices from people clearly transitioning. people abandoning their old names that didn’t fit for new ones that do. safe to say we’re not going anywhere :link
 

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here with some positivity! in the courthouse today i walked through the hall where people have to post their notices of intent to change their name. when i did that myself in 2019 there was one other name similar to mine, changing from a “guy name” to a “girl name”

this time there were no less than six notices from people clearly transitioning. people abandoning their old names that didn’t fit for new ones that do. safe to say we’re not going anywhere :link
Fuck. Yeah.

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here with some positivity! in the courthouse today i walked through the hall where people have to post their notices of intent to change their name. when i did that myself in 2019 there was one other name similar to mine, changing from a “guy name” to a “girl name”

this time there were no less than six notices from people clearly transitioning. people abandoning their old names that didn’t fit for new ones that do. safe to say we’re not going anywhere :link
Good, we need more positivity.
 
So this is a deeply fucked up article, which... I mean it's the gaming industry, News at Eleven. However, it touches upon something that keeps coming up and I'm waiting for the day it finishes boiling over and everyone sees the shit for what it is instead of the constant gaslighting and denialism from people the company doesn't even consider to be its audience anymore.

Technically relevant to this thread portion, though the full thing is worth reading:

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Others I spoke to expressed frustration at Square Enix for a different reason: it was far too hands-on with the script. Sure, Life is Strange is a Square Enix’s owned IP, but sources told me Square Enix seemed oddly reluctant or outright hostile to the diverse themes and ideas that Life Is Strange fans love. For instance, multiple people recalled an incident during True Colors development where Square Enix told multiple developers it didn’t want Life Is Strange to be thought of as the “gay game.”

“There’s a lot of press out there praising True Colors for having the first bisexual lead in a Life Is Strange game,” said Mallory Littleton, a narrative designer who worked at Deck Nine on multiple Life Is Strange titles. “Even in our press guides from Square Enix, all the way up until [review copies were out], we were not to say anything about Alex’s sexuality, period, at all. And then they did the advance copies, and all of these reviews came out saying how amazing it was to finally see an explicitly bi protagonist, and after that, Square was like, just kidding, Alex is absolutely, canonically, 100% bisexual.”

Square Enix declined to comment for this article, but instead pointed IGN to Deck Nine’s response, which we’ve included in full at the end of this article.
 
Business as usual, sadly.

If the SWATting assaults/incidents from over a decade ago were actually taken seriously - they weren't, and a couple of people were murdered by the police as a result, and SWATting still happens to this day unabated - maybe we wouldn't live in this hellscape. Alas, that's not how any of this works in the US.

I'm sure some people will see articles and go "well if these godsdamned transexuals didn't exist this wouldn't happen" but obviously 1) fuck them and 2) nah these fuckwits would just do their unhinged bullshit against a different group instead.

At some point it's just easier to tune all the noise out. 7 more months to go. :shrug
 
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Business as usual, sadly.

If the SWATting assaults/incidents from over a decade ago were actually taken seriously - they weren't, and a couple of people were murdered by the police as a result, and SWATting still happens to this day unabated - maybe we wouldn't live in this hellscape. Alas, that's not how any of this works in the US.

I'm sure some people will see articles and go "well if these godsdamned transexuals didn't exist this wouldn't happen" but obviously 1) fuck them and 2) nah these fuckwits would just do their unhinged bullshit against a different group instead.

At some point it's just easier to tune all the noise out. 7 more months to go. :shrug
It should be taken more seriously. One of these days, someone is going to carry through with it and people are gonna get caught up in the middle of it.
 

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That's sad to hear about Life is Strange. The very first time I was ever asked my sexual orientation was in that game. It might be the only time. It felt incredible to not be assumed to be straight, even if it was by an NPC.

It's weird Alex is officially bi. The game never says that. One character asks if you're into women, and you can answer that you're straight, lesbian, or bi. Alex never expresses interest in anybody unless you choose to. I don't think it mentions any past lovers.

But I guess anything that acknowledges that gay people exist is gay.
 
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That's sad to hear about Life is Strange. The very first time I was ever asked my sexual orientation was in that game. It might be the only time. It felt incredible to not be assumed to be straight, even if it was by an NPC.

It's weird Alex is officially bi. The game never says that. One character asks if you're into women, and you can answer that you're straight, lesbian, or bi. Alex never expresses interest in anybody unless you choose to. I don't think it mentions any past lovers.

But I guess anything that acknowledges that gay people exist is gay
It's a weird situation overall. You have these choices where you can choose your sexual orientation, yet the higher-ups don't want the game to acknowledge or endorse that, as if they would be ashamed to be associated with the LGBTQ+ community.

It's so stupid.
 
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