this is the part that makes me wonder if you're the fool.gg wolves
I am not a wolf.
Holly is not a wolf.
there is no reason to believe shortkut is.
it's okay to admit you got beat by townies.
you're gonna find out that is the case soon anyway
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this is the part that makes me wonder if you're the fool.gg wolves
That’s what I don’t like. What if in that case the medium is in a different time zone. They are at a disadvantage to using their ability. If they submitted their revival to you before you posted they were dead, why can’t you change your last statement to say: “The Wolf Avenger has taken Zell 18 to the grave with them. They were the Medium… with his last breath, zell 18 was able to revive Zell 16, the gunner”I'm not sure what this means, so maybe I'll give an example.
Day ends 9am. At 9:05 the witch PMs me and selects to kill the wolf avenger. At 9:10 the medium PMs me and says they want to revive the gunner.
The avenger roles (whether wolf or town) pre-select who they will kill when they die. If nobody is pre-selected then nobody dies. So I come along at 10 am and see that the witch has killed the wolf avenger. I'd post this in the thread:
The witch has killed Zell 17, who is the Wolf Avenger.
separate post
The Wolf Avenger has taken Zell 18 to the grave with them. They were the Medium.
The gunner is not revived.
While you're doing that, take into consideration now that both you and Holly are blowing your kill potions, you two are less a threat to the wolves and more an annoyance at best once with the protection. They would most definitely be better off either offing kut as the detective or go fishing for the doctor or the gunner or the medium.actually, I need to think. with zells clarification on chronology, maybe we don't need as thorough a ring of protection. plus the serial killer is dead, therefore one less night kill. and the protection can go elsewhere.
Will consider in a little bit.
That’s what I don’t like. What if in that case the medium is in a different time zone. They are at a disadvantage to using their ability. If they submitted their revival to you before you posted they were dead, why can’t you change your last statement to say: “The Wolf Avenger has taken Zell 18 to the grave with them. They were the Medium… with his last breath, zell 18 was able to revive Zell 16, the gunner”
If ants is not a townie, then I’m voting to lynch you since I know that ants and Cole are different teamsIf I am alive at the end of this phase, Cole is suuuuuuper dead.
I don’t recall ever playing a wolf game with the night actions being chronological. I think they’ve always been all successful to avoid issues with time zones and the likeThe thing I don't like about this is that the game outcome then hinges on MY activity and whether I'm online or not, and not the action of the players. If I get a quick post in at 9:06 the medium doesn't revive, but if I don't they can.
An alternative for a future game may be that all night actions are successful. But there are downsides to that too. I'll expand more on those after the game, some of the examples I would outline might give players ideas they would not otherwise have come up with.
Yeah we can discuss after, I feel like that's too important a rule to change mid-game.I don’t recall ever playing a wolf game with the night actions being chronological. I think they’ve always been all successful to avoid issues with time zones and the like
Of course you would... if you were wolves with Cole...If ants is not a townie, then I’m voting to lynch you since I know that ants and Cole are different teams
noted, will factor.While you're doing that, take into consideration now that both you and Holly are blowing your kill potions, you two are less a threat to the wolves and more an annoyance at best once with the protection. They would most definitely be better off either offing kut as the detective or go fishing for the doctor or the gunner or the medium.
So if anything, not using protections, using one on kut, or using them at random are better choices for those. A roleless townie is at best just a lynch vote against the wolves which they can still argue against.
except zell already said that town kills come before wolf or serial killer kills. so as long as @Holly gets her kill in, you won't be able to. not to mention the contingency that someone protects me.If I am alive at the end of this phase, Cole is suuuuuuper dead.
I agree this is a tough spot becsuse of all the roles. "all success" isn't viable either, but this chronological thing can be punishing.The thing I don't like about this is that the game outcome then hinges on MY activity and whether I'm online or not, and not the action of the players. If I get a quick post in at 9:06 the medium doesn't revive, but if I don't they can.
An alternative for a future game may be that all night actions are successful. But there are downsides to that too. I'll expand more on those after the game, some of the examples I would outline might give players ideas they would not otherwise have come up with.
yeah. I don't think fool is considering this.If ants is not a townie, then I’m voting to lynch you since I know that ants and Cole are different teams
Right... IF Holly was a witch...except zell already said that town kills come before wolf or serial killer kills. so as long as @Holly gets her kill in, you won't be able to. not to mention the contingency that someone protects me.
agreed, you can't change it now. but I think inside I for shortkut when I say we just wanted to express our dislike of that syste..Yeah we can discuss after, I feel like that's too important a rule to change mid-game.
...are you even reading any thing in this game?Of course you would... if you were wolves with Cole...
you have 4 teams, 3 affiliations. what if you added a other category "priority". maybe the doctors protection always comes before other actions. maybe the witch is lower priority and comes after serial killer. wolves should always be "last", but the others could have a priority order. then after the night phase, you just apply the "order" and see what happens. it eliminates the need to be "on time", but also isn't as dangerous as "all successful" in a game with this many roles. you could lose like 6 people a night.
she is a witch. zell doesn't like that I used "dm evidence" but it's already out there. she identified that I verbatim quoted the PM.Right... IF Holly was a witch...
Acting like you're ignoring the possibility that you Holly, and kut aren't all wolves is sus.are you even reading any thing in this game?
Right... because wolves definitely can't coordinate lies...she is a witch. zell doesn't like that I used "dm evidence" but it's already out there. she identified that I verbatim quoted the PM.
I am glad to hear you say that.I know I’m a goner but before I lose my voice I just want to say: even though this game has barely started I think it’s been AMAZINGLY fun so far, I can’t wait to see how the rest of it plays out, and please sign me up for Wolf game 3!!![]()
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no it is not sus. you ignoring literally mountains of evidence just to try and get people to lynch me. which is fine, that's a valid strategy. unfortunately in this instance, the cards have already been dealt, and you're standing there with a 7 of spades and the rules to draw and stud poker and pushing all in.Acting like you're ignoring the possibility that you Holly, and kut aren't all wolves is sus.
yes, they canRight... because wolves definitely can't coordinate lies...
Forcing other's hands and then stating that they're ruining the game for not following along makes it not fun.I forced everyone's hand, but I wasn't trying to make it not fun.
sarcasmyes, they can
No hard feelings, and I don’t mean to cast aspersions that your gameplay isn’t legitimate. Again, I just got dealt a bad hand and I accept that, sorry if it came across as salty (maybe I was a little bit at first). Also I don’t trust my own opinion on the matter to be completely unbiased since it worked against me this time, lol.I am glad to hear you say that.
Fools (and you, and someone else I wont name) have made me feel a little guilty, and I don't think I should. all I will say is not only is role reveals apart of wolf, but I know FOR A FACT this game was designed to have role revealing as an aspect.
I forced everyone's hand, but I wasn't trying to make it not fun. I didn't wake up wanting to get ants specifically outed.
I AM having fun in this game.
I think the role reveals made it fun. If holly and Ryan are telling the truth, it now gives an opportunity to strategize that wasn’t there beforeI am glad to hear you say that.
Fools (and you, and someone else I wont name) have made me feel a little guilty, and I don't think I should. all I will say is not only is role reveals apart of wolf, but I know FOR A FACT this game was designed to have role revealing as an aspect.
I forced everyone's hand, but I wasn't trying to make it not fun. I didn't wake up wanting to get ants specifically outed.
I AM having fun in this game.
you said I ruined the game like 10 pages ago becsuse I did some thing unusual that is perfectly in line with normal wolf games.Forcing other's hands and then stating that they're ruining the game for not following along makes it not fun.
Unless you're a wolf, then gg.
I'm aware it was sarcasm. but you're confusing a simple lie, with a 30 step preorchestrated plan involving DMs and (so far) 6 different names.sarcasm
He outed himself. I chose to out myself. Ryan backed himself into a corner and had to out himself. Holly did the same thing. Cole didn’t force anyone. Jolt fucked himself this game by misplaying almost every post he made and as such, is upset he’s going to die and is blaming everyone but himselfI don't disagree that I misplayed my part, but let's not pretend like trying to force out roles as a townie so that people can confirm that they're good is anything but fucked or a obvious wolf play.
sure, we don't have to pretend because it's fucking not.I don't disagree that I misplayed my part, but let's not pretend like trying to force out roles as a townie so that people can confirm that they're good is anything but fucked or a obvious wolf play.
Screw you, let me be salty.You ruined his fun because he is going to die for sucking at this game
don't look at it that way. Yes, anyone that has revealed their role is a potential target. But that also means the town can try and protect us.Heh, when I first posted today I was so sure I had "got" Cole because I knew my role. Then I saw him quoting the DM from Zell, the same one that I got. So I know that he's the same role as me, the witch. And if either of us is killed it will prove that we were both telling the truth. I've already come to terms with the fact that with my role outed I'm unlikely to make it to the end of the game but I'm damned sure gonna do what I can to help the townies win.
damnit, I have so many typos in that post.
Zell I hate you. next game, use an editing honor system. if people wanna correct typos, let them. I agree like "details" shouldn't be edited, votes shouldn't be edited. but I wanna fix ma damn typos!
I WAS ON MOBILE. IT WAS AUTO CORRECTED YOU DUCKING DITCH!Get better!
I turned my autocorrect off because it kept putting words in that I don't want.I WAS ON MOBILE. IT WAS AUTO CORRECTED YOU DUCKING DITCH!
so, continuing my trend of not only honesty but *full disclosure*While you're doing that, take into consideration now that both you and Holly are blowing your kill potions, you two are less a threat to the wolves and more an annoyance at best once with the protection. They would most definitely be better off either offing kut as the detective or go fishing for the doctor or the gunner or the medium.
So if anything, not using protections, using one on kut, or using them at random are better choices for those. A roleless townie is at best just a lynch vote against the wolves which they can still argue against.
fair points.They bust their super kill, they still have zero clue who the Doctor is. That role and the Medium are the two most important roles in this game and we need to keep them preserved as long as possible. It gives a guaranteed protection that they can't coordinate against and it gives a revive that negates whatever they do.
actually we need to add to this.
I second Tommy. He's very suspect.actually we need to add to this.
who do you plan to investigate tonight? the logical choice is to compare Holly or I to anyone we think guilty.
maybe Tommy?
Thats a good point but maybe he likes to be really open with his thought process! Just playing devils advocate here!@VashTheStampede has been almost... too agreeable, trying to play devils advocate everywhere.