Zell Wolf GWF Wolf - Zell's Version Night + Day 1

[Jawneh]

Admittedly I probably jumped at shadows and ruined things for everyone

I wouldn't go as far as ruining anything. Things will be harder now though as we lost a way to kill a wolf. Live and learn. No wait, you don't live.... Fuck.

 

[A Punched Face]

Yeah the situation is more than salvageable at this point. No worries, this is a learning experience for you.

 

[Tubby23]

you could have asked if there was something you weren't following.

you didn't "ruin things", you just made them a little bit harder.

I was following, it appears that I felt we were directionally in another position than the rest of the group (so you could probably say I wasn't following even though I felt like I was)

 

[Ants!]

Everyone just waiting for @Zell 17 to make his next check-in

 

[Tubby23]

I also PMd when I made the move as I wasn't sure whether I should have @ on the post and editing bad

 

[shortkut]

Quick delete the action!

 

[Ants!]

Quick delete the action!

I screenshot lol

 

[Zell 17]

Fuck it, this probably is a blunder but I think it potentially helps make things clearer with 13 hours left until the night phase starts.

If I die as a result of this and it turns out Cole, kut and Holly are in league as wolves, ggs.
If it works and I kill a wolf at least I got to use my power for good.

Priest uses their water on Fool's Requiem

Tubby23 splashes holy water on Fool's Requiem. The water backfires and kills him! Fool's Requiem is not a wolf.

Tubby23 has died. They were the Priest

 

[shortkut]

Here lies tubby, with more heart than brains. He truly loved his fellow townies

 

[Zell 17]

@Tubby23 stick around, you'll be added to the dead chat whenever Mark gets to it. Also don't worry, there's something about the Priest role that rots people's brains. Mine included.

 

[shortkut]

With Fool not being a wolf, just bad at this game, I hope Ants is a wolf and not the fool, otherwise we’re no closer to finding the wolves

 

[Fool's Requiem]

With Fool not being a wolf, just bad at this game, I hope Ants is a wolf and not the fool, otherwise we’re no closer to finding the wolves

I acknowledge being bad at the game.

I think it was you that said it, "being a dumdum".

 

[Cole]

Here lies tubby, with more heart than brains. He truly loved his fellow townies

religion causes yet a other untimely death.

 

[Dean]

My bad for being so inactive. Still at my sister's for my niece's birthday. It's been a busy couple days, between driving back from Indiana and then the party today.

I would think the fact I still took time to read through 30+ pages of crap would indicate I'm not a wolf, but I'm sure that could be used against me somehow.

I'm being careful and abstaining because we don't have much info to go on, and some people just seem naturally suspicious because they don't necessarily have a strategy. I don't want to lynch the fool or an innocent townie.

 

[shortkut]

@Zell 17 Can I change my vote to @Tubby23 so Cole and I can fight about why I felt the need to vote on day 1? We need a topic to argue about for another 5-7 pages

 

[Fool's Requiem]

@Tubby23 stick around, you'll be added to the dead chat whenever Mark gets to it. Also don't worry, there's something about the Priest role that rots people's brains. Mine included.

See you soon, @Tubby23 !

 

[Zell 17]

@Zell 17 Can I change my vote to @Tubby23 so Cole and I can fight about why I felt the need to vote on day 1? We need a topic to argue about for another 5-7 pages

Tubby is dead. So no.

 

[shortkut]

Tubby is dead. So no.

I assumed, I was being facetious

 

[Zell 17]

I assumed, I was being facetious

How am I supposed to pick out which of the 20 dumb questions was the facetious one?

 

[Dean]

Do we take Fool's at his word and vote to lynch or just wait? I lean toward waiting.

 

[A Punched Face]

Do we take Fool's at his word and vote to lynch or just wait? I lean toward waiting.

Just wait. There's no reason to take him for his word here.

 

[Cole]

Do we take Fool's at his word and vote to lynch or just wait? I lean toward waiting.

no. there's no reason to risk it when we can safely kill him

 

[Fool's Requiem]

no. there's no reason to risk it when we can safely kill him

And waste your abilities.

 

[shortkut]

And waste your abilities.

And have him loste the satisfaction of killing your personally? I think not

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Also, isn't it already past 9PM ET?

 

[Tommy Boy]

Also, isn't it already past 9PM ET?

Yeah we have a full 12 hours until night time lol.

 

[Tommy Boy]

Despite the worst worries of our town full of magical residents, no villagers have been killed. The wolves have gone vegan. If any protectors were successful, they will have been notified.

Despite this welcome news, the townspeople are suspicious and will take any reason to murder each other with reckless abandon. Day 1 starts now. 7 votes are required to lynch a villager. Today will end at 9 am ET on Monday morning.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Yeah we have a full 12 hours until night time lol.

Fuck, you're right. I thought we were waiting on 9PM for some reason. Jesus Christ, just kill me already.

 

[A Punched Face]

lmao I deleted a post I was writing earlier because I saw Zell typing and thought it was him saying the day was ending.

 

[shortkut]

Despite the worst worries of our town full of magical residents, no villagers have been killed. The wolves have gone vegan. If any protectors were successful, they will have been notified.

Due to @Tommy Boy quoting this, I need clarification from @Zell 17

Are you going to make clear who died from what/or was protected in your morning write up?

 

[Zell 17]

As noted when this day started with no kills, villagers are not notified if someone is protected. The person who protects is notified if they were successful. The Tough Guy and Bodyguard (if they are in the game) know if they successfully stop an attack, but don't know if it was the person they were protecting or if they were attacked directly.

When people are killed it will be clear how they died.

 

[shortkut]

As noted when this day started with no kills, villagers are not notified if someone is protected. The person who protects is notified if they were successful. The Tough Guy and Bodyguard (if they are in the game) know if they successfully stop an attack, but don't know if it was the person they were protecting or if they were attacked directly.

When people are killed it will be clear how they died.

Thanks for clarifying but I don’t understand how their characters wouldn’t know if they were attacked

 

[Zell 17]

Think about it this way. You are guarding the President. Someone comes up and stabs you. You assume they wanted to get to the President who you were protecting...but maybe they just wanted to stab you.

 

[shortkut]

Think about it this way. You are guarding the President. Someone comes up and stabs you. You assume they wanted to get to the President who you were protecting...but maybe they just wanted to stab you.

Makes sense. Only exception would be the doctor since they can’t protect themselves

 

[Zell 17]

I guess the analogy would be that the doctor doesn't really "protect" per se, but they can heal people who are attacked so they don't die? And can't perform surgery on themselves.

Peering deeper into the roles is gonna make me look dumb

 

[Kat]

Makes sense. Only exception would be the doctor since they can’t protect themselves

I still don't understand the difference between people who can protect themselves or not. @Zell 17 said they take the attack instead of whoever they're protecting, so how is protecting yourself different from just getting attacked without protection?

 

[Kat]

Also I haven't read most of this thread still, I just got home recently. I probably won't catch up until the night phase and you all quit posting for twelve hours!

 

[A Punched Face]

I still don't understand the difference between people who can protect themselves or not. @Zell 17 said they take the attack instead of whoever they're protecting, so how is protecting yourself different from just getting attacked without protection?

I think it's just that the body guard and tough guy are essentially always on alert due to who they are. They always defend themselves, even if they're protecting someone else that night. Whereas a player like the doctor can't fix themselves after they've been mauled, and the witches don't use their own potions.

 

[Zell 17]

Right. There is essentially no difference between attacking the BG/TG directly or the person they are protecting (werewolf berserks notwithstanding).

Note btw that the "special abilities" of the BG/TG don't apply if they are killed by villagers (witch/gunner). They would die immediately. They would retain their abilities if revived. (So for example, say the gunner shoots and kills the BG. They have not been attacked previously. If revived, the BG would still need to be attacked twice by the wolves to die).

 

[Kat]

I think it's just that the body guard and tough guy are essentially always on alert due to who they are. They always defend themselves, even if they're protecting someone else that night. Whereas a player like the doctor can't fix themselves after they've been mauled, and the witches don't use their own potions.

I'll drop it after this post because I think I'm just being pedantic and there are enough posts as it is, but using the example above:
I protect the president, someone tries to stab the president, I get stabbed instead.
I protect myself, someone tries to stab me, so... I get stabbed instead of myself?

It's just a funny meaning of "protecting myself" is all I'm saying.

 

[Ryan!]

So as I said, Fool is the Fool. It's just so fitting

 

[shortkut]

So as I said, Fool is the Fool. It's just so fitting

He could also be the serial killer as he claimed

 

[Ants!]

So as I said, Fool is the Fool. It's just so fitting

He’s not the fool. I have no idea if he’s solo killer or wolf though

 

[Ryan!]

He could be. Ants could be sure he wasn't the Fool because Ants is the Fool instead. But Fool is trying hard to get us to lynch him "for our benefit." It's just too convenient.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

He’s not the fool. I have no idea if he’s solo killer or wolf though

Tubby died proving I'm not a wolf.

 

[Ants!]

Tubby died proving I'm not a wolf.

Sorry, I meant solo killer or townie. My brain is fried lol

 

[Ryan!]

Now I feel like a total dick. I feel like I pushed Tubby into doing what he did, which now paints a massive target on my back. Now we're already down a townie and the wolves didn't have to do anything. We have zero information about Fool besides what he's told us, which he could easily be lying about. Ants seems convinced Fool isn't the Fool, which leads me to believe Ants is actually the Fool. So sure, killing both of them we could get rid of both the Fool and the Serial Killer, but that doesn't get rid of the real dangers. If Fool is the Serial Killer, he also needs all the wolves dead. Is he worth keeping alive to get rid of more wolves, especially with their powerful roles available. It's worth a discussion.

 

[shortkut]

Now I feel like a total dick. I feel like I pushed Tubby into doing what he did, which now paints a massive target on my back. Now we're already down a townie and the wolves didn't have to do anything. We have zero information about Fool besides what he's told us, which he could easily be lying about. Ants seems convinced Fool isn't the Fool, which leads me to believe Ants is actually the Fool. So sure, killing both of them we could get rid of both the Fool and the Serial Killer, but that doesn't get rid of the real dangers. If Fool is the Serial Killer, he also needs all the wolves dead. Is he worth keeping alive to get rid of more wolves, especially with their powerful roles available. It's worth a discussion.

No, he was angry enough when he was first found out and we arranged his death overnight to kill is all out of spite

 

[Cole]

Now I feel like a total dick. I feel like I pushed Tubby into doing what he did, which now paints a massive target on my back. Now we're already down a townie and the wolves didn't have to do anything. We have zero information about Fool besides what he's told us, which he could easily be lying about. Ants seems convinced Fool isn't the Fool, which leads me to believe Ants is actually the Fool. So sure, killing both of them we could get rid of both the Fool and the Serial Killer, but that doesn't get rid of the real dangers. If Fool is the Serial Killer, he also needs all the wolves dead. Is he worth keeping alive to get rid of more wolves, especially with their powerful roles available. It's worth a discussion.

absolutely not. fool dies.

 

[Ryan!]

absolutely not. fool dies.

I mean, it works for me. Ants seems convinced Fool isn't the Fool, as if he knows absolutely. Which is weird. It almost makes me wonder if Ants is the Fool himself. But his fate is already sealed. He's dying in the night, which means he has zero reason to hide anything. We aren't going to lynch him. If he's the Fool, he might as well spit it out. The only thing I can think of is Ants is the Wolf Seer, and he checked Fool during Night One, which makes sense. Ants would likely either check you, kut, or Fool. So he would know for a fact Fool isn't the Fool, but is telling the truth and is the Serial Killer. Which means we not only take out a wolf but also potentially their best weapon.