Zell Wolf Discussion Thread v3

[Ryan!]

If FR was in jail with Cole, Cole couldn't have been killed by the Marksman. I wonder who is gonna be smart enough to see this. Kat, who isn't an idiot, just brushed it off and is focusing on the Guardian Wolf thing.

Good thing you have Kat around to hold FR's hand, Cole.

 

[Tubby23]

For real, FR is just going from point to point and there a holes of you slow down

 

[Ryan!]

So Cole is a Wolf. FR is a Wolf. I really think Kat is a Wolf. I'm not sold on Local at all and think he might be a Wolf.

I checked Ants and he was good, but that doesn't mean much since two Wolf roles in the game register good, and he was shady as hell.

 

[Tubby23]

Benzine fourth wolf

 

[shortkut]

Now I need to read the thread. Are you sure FR is wolf and not sorcerer?

 

[Tubby23]

Yeah I think so, I could be reading too much into it but I feel like Kat is steering people away from some of the holes in what FR is saying.

I think the Wolves are/were
Cole
FR
Kat
Benzine?

 

[shortkut]

@Zell 17 what is the order of night actions again?

I feel FR checked my role and that is why he is claiming to be spirit seer, since there isn’t a spirit seer alive to call him out. That means he is sorcerer wolf seer… so either he got lucky to check me before the wolves made the kill and they both targeted me, or I was wrong with him being the sorcerer and he is actually a wolf and they planned to turn on each other

Also Kat is acting just as sketchy as when she was a wolf previously. Probably team wolf again

 

[shortkut]

Yeah I think so, I could be reading too much into it but I feel like Kat is steering people away from some of the holes in what FR is saying.

I think the Wolves are/were
Cole
FR
Kat
Benzine?

Add TD and Local to the list of suspects. Some combination of these 6 are wolves, sorcerer, and wolf-fan… @Zell 17 is there a werewolf fan and a sorcerer this game?

 

[Zell 17]

@Zell 17 what is the order of night actions again?

I feel FR checked my role and that is why he is claiming to be spirit seer, since there isn’t a spirit seer alive to call him out. That means he is sorcerer wolf seer… so either he got lucky to check me before the wolves made the kill and they both targeted me, or I was wrong with him being the sorcerer and he is actually a wolf and they planned to turn on each other

Also Kat is acting just as sketchy as when she was a wolf previously. Probably team wolf again

All your questions are answered in the first post of every thread

 

[shortkut]

All your questions are answered in the first post of every thread

But I’m not at the first post of the thread, I’m at post 160 of this thread

 

[Ryan!]

I said I thought FR was Sorcerer and Kat was a Wolf.

 

[shortkut]

So Cole is a Wolf. FR is a Wolf. I really think Kat is a Wolf. I'm not sold on Local at all and think he might be a Wolf.

I checked Ants and he was good, but that doesn't mean much since two Wolf roles in the game register good, and he was shady as hell.

I said I thought FR was Sorcerer and Kat was a Wolf.

No you didn’t

 

[Ryan!]

I did. It's in the 900 post thread

 

[Tubby23]

So are you a wolf then ..... Sus

 

[Ryan!]

I said it would be pointless to check FR because it would come back as good because I thought he was the Sorcerer. You quoted it earlier.

I said to be suspicious of Kat.

 

[Tubby23]

But seriously I think it's those 4

 

[Ryan!]

So are you a wolf then ..... Sus

No I was being 100% truthful. I'm actually an Aura Seer.

 

[Ryan!]

Oh fuck off, FR. You posted nonsense. I gave the evidence necessary to get Cole killed.

And if Kat is telling the truth (I doubt it), it was the dumbest play in the game.

 

[Ryan!]

I wonder if Holly is 4th Wolf

 

[Ryan!]

But if she's telling the truth and they were gonna use a Confusion anyway, best to just kill her outright.

If FR isn't lying, which I doubt, he really is shit at this game.

 

[Ryan!]

FR is really awful at lying.

@Cole how the hell did you tolerate this?

 

[shortkut]

I said it would be pointless to check FR because it would come back as good because I thought he was the Sorcerer. You quoted it earlier.

Pretty sure I made that claim first

 

[Ryan!]

Yeah TD, you are. It's almost as if killing your info gatherer was an awful idea.

 

[Ryan!]

Pretty sure I made that claim first

In the dead thread, maybe. I made it with all the alive people.

 

[shortkut]

FR is really awful at lying.

@Cole how the hell did you tolerate this?

Cole is Jeff Winger from Community. He’s surrounded by idiots so often he has developed somewhat of a tolerance

 

[Zell 17]

I know people are tired of the imbalance and tired of the role claiming blah blah but I'm having a blast

 

[shortkut]

Yeah TD, you are. It's almost as if killing your info gatherer was an awful idea.

Oh fuck off, FR. You posted nonsense. I gave the evidence necessary to get Cole killed.

And if Kat is telling the truth (I doubt it), it was the dumbest play in the game.

Copy the quotes from the day thread. I’m not switching back and forth between the two in real time so I have no idea what you are referring to

 

[shortkut]

I know people are tired of the imbalance and tired of the role claiming blah blah but I'm having a blast

I just want to know if any of my theories are correct. I’ll let my spirit move on from this place and have my permissions revoked for the truth

 

[Ryan!]

I'll obey the honor system and will not blab anything I've not ascertained in this thread but I'm with shortkut. I have to know if I'm right. Just PM me a confirmation.

Cole is Guardian Wolf
FR is Sorcerer
Kat is lying and is a Wolf
Local is a Wolf
Vash is the Red Lady
Alu is telling the truth and is another Aura Seer.

Please just tell me.

 

[Cole]

I told Alu this but you should wear the n1 kill as a badge of honor. The evils respect you

no we don't. he was a seer, he died.

FR is really awful at lying.

@Cole how the hell did you tolerate this?

tolerate what? when I was a wolf with him? ignored it mostly.

I'll obey the honor system and will not blab anything I've not ascertained in this thread but I'm with shortkut. I have to know if I'm right. Just PM me a confirmation.

Cole is Guardian Wolf
FR is Sorcerer
Kat is lying and is a Wolf
Local is a Wolf
Vash is the Red Lady
Alu is telling the truth and is another Aura Seer.

Please just tell me.

or don't, it's funnier that way

 

[Tubby23]

All this back and forth and no one has thrown a vote on anyone yet. Are people scared?

 

[shortkut]

I would just let FR feel important. I would give him credit for calling out Cole and ask him for his suspects for the rest of the wolves, sorcerer, and fan in order of likelihood. I would then vote/kill his top two suspects and ignore his suspects for sorc and fan. Easy day phase

 

[Zell 17]

I'll obey the honor system and will not blab anything I've not ascertained in this thread but I'm with shortkut. I have to know if I'm right. Just PM me a confirmation.

Cole is Guardian Wolf
FR is Sorcerer
Kat is lying and is a Wolf
Local is a Wolf
Vash is the Red Lady
Alu is telling the truth and is another Aura Seer.

Please just tell me.

Hey now last game it was practically solved in Day 2. Don’t think it’s gonna happen this time. You’ll see soon enough.

 

[Cole]

All this back and forth and no one has thrown a vote on anyone yet. Are people scared?

very.

what have I gone and done this time?!

 

[shortkut]

no we don't. he was a seer, he died.

tolerate what? when I was a wolf with him? ignored it mostly.

or don't, it's funnier that way

I figured you guys saw my role and killed me for it

 

[shortkut]

very.

what have I gone and done this time?!

You didn’t role claim and it’s thrown everyone into a tizzy!

 

[Tubby23]

very.

what have I gone and done this time?!

Don't worry no matter what happens it will somehow be Coles fault

 

[Tubby23]

FR was a little too quick to jump on with Kat there

 

[Ryan!]

Gotta commend Cole for the counter play, though. You actually got people doubting everything and it's rather impressive.

Or maybe it's just really sad.

Either way, Wolves are a lot weaker now, even with Kat in there.

 

[Tubby23]

I love that they've just spent 4 posts noticing I'm not playing. But they're right to be suss of Benzine in my view. He never really posts much but on the Day 1 phase he came in early with a vote so that's unlike him.

Other games he remained in the shadows and abstained

 

[Ryan!]

I love that they've just spent 4 posts noticing I'm not playing. But they're right to be suss of Benzine in my view. He never really posts much but on the Day 1 phase he came in early with a vote so that's unlike him.

Other games he remained in the shadows and abstained

I mean, it was a really good chess reference.

Even if my play was more Vienna Gambit rather than sacking Bishop to open H file on castled side.

 

[Tubby23]

I mean, it was a really good chess reference.

Even if my play was more Vienna Gambit rather than sacking Bishop to open H file on castled side.

You may as well have spoke Chinese to me just now haha

 

[Ryan!]

The Vienna Gambit is a chess opening. It goes 1) E4 E5 2) NC3 NF6 3) F4.

The idea is that you are offering a pawn sacrifice early in order to not just give yourself a dominant middle, but also to create several traps that black has a difficult time dealing with.

And then Kat killed me and ruined it. Because she had a "feeling"

 

[Ryan!]

If I had managed to get lynched yesterday and we had just taken the townie sack to prove my role, it would have opened up a lot more discussion and given a lot more validity to everything I said.

Maybe I should have just votes for myself. Is that allowed?

 

[Ryan!]

Also would have made them realize how many people are lying their asses off. Maybe that's the play I should have gone with. But Vienna Gambit is my top played opening as white and it was worth a try.

 

[Tubby23]

Benzine Wolf

 

[Ryan!]

I think Local is lying his ass off.

Anyway, bright side to everything I did. Guardian Wolf ability is gone. No more Confusion Wolf abilities. They are down one Wolf.

Down side: The town killed me and not FR.

 

[Ryan!]

Also, if FR isn't a Wolf, then man, he's not good at this.

Honestly was kinda hoping they just lynched me and it made everything clear. Sure, Wolves could have burned their Guardian Wolf ability on me to create chaos, which is something Cole would absolutely do, but then that ability is gone and it just delays everything by a day. I'm still outed as Aura Seer and they can see who is lying.

 

[Cole]

Also, if FR isn't a Wolf, then man, he's not good at this.

Honestly was kinda hoping they just lynched me and it made everything clear. Sure, Wolves could have burned their Guardian Wolf ability on me to create chaos, which is something Cole would absolutely do, but then that ability is gone and it just delays everything by a day. I'm still outed as Aura Seer and they can see who is lying.

you wouldn't ever have been outed as an aura seer. because I wouldn't have let you be lynched.

psychiatrist or no, I would advise you to never predict my actions in this game

 

[Ryan!]

you wouldn't ever have been outed as an aura seer. because I wouldn't have let you be lynched.

psychiatrist or no, I would advise you to never predict my actions in this game

Still wastes that ability, though. I played a gambit. Sometimes it pays off, sometimes it doesn't.

It's strange Kat would say the real Witch would out themselves when you know if Kat is a Wolf and making the claim for the Witch to counter it would just be outing a protection role. But maybe Kat is just telling the truth and made a major blunder based off of her feeling.

Still not sold at all on Local or FR. I believe Alu did get Aura Seer, but maybe I'm wrong. I think Local is just lying about it. There's far too many people claiming third townie.

I do believe Holly is the Warden. And I do believe she locked up FR and Cole. And that she tossed out a weapon. And that there was an agreement not to kill her so they can use this alibi and have FR gain trust with the group. If I'm right on FR, there's a good player holding his hand through this.