Zell Wolf Discussion Thread v3

[Tubby23]

Yep definitely let's get this thing moving haha

 

[shortkut]

But - this version of wolf is an animal where it's roleclaims everywhere, I think Vash even mentioned how utterly exhausting it is.

So convince everyone to fucking skip

I'd prefer not to role claim if I can help it, TBH.

Because you’re the sorcerer

SHORTKUT YOU ARE DEAD STOP TYPING

I need to get the quotes to comment here! Unless you have a better way?

 

[Tubby23]

So this basically has all led to nothing but the biggest shit show?
Cole is going to ruin people in the post game discussion

 

[shortkut]

View attachment 1473Rubbing tonights dinner in shortkuts face because he can’t say anything about it except in the dead forum where nobody can hear him.

If I’m ever berserk wolf I’m using it on ants! Even if he is also wolf.

If I’m gunner, I’ll shoot him first post

@Zell 17 you can share this post in the game if you want

 

[Tubby23]

I'll help.

Or if Benzine posts before me I'll vote for the Kiwi

 

[Tommy Boy]

I don't want people to always go after Coleman for Coleman Clause because:
A.) It's not always gunna work, the dude is just really skilled at this game
B.) It will deter him from playing future games which is fucked - someone should not sit out because they are the best
C.) Some people are mixing up 2006 Coleman with 2023 Coleman and that's fucking annoying. We're all friends here now, but some old grudges are still coming up periodically for no reason

I'm not trying to ride the D here or anything but I just fear people will always go for him first because of his skill, or for the wrong reason, his playful abrasiveness.

In any case, if he's here next, hi Cole lol

 

[Tommy Boy]

@Tommy Boy @Tubby23 do you think they forgot about the sorcerer role or are deliberately not mentioning it?

Gotta be real with you dawg, I am learning how TRASH I am at wolf and getting super humbled the last few weeks. I'm a one-dimensional thinker, or I suck at lying. Hell, I can't even suspect roles without people like Vash basically screaming he is flower girl. I am committed to getting better by playing more!

Pretty curious how you play, though. I love you hosting, but definitely looking forward to playing WITH you in a game!

 

[Tubby23]

I wholeheartedly agree, and would also add that just always focussing on Cole gives him too much power and won't let you learn how to play better. Cole will always be the strongest player because most of us are learning how to play better by following his lead or straight out imitating him.

Do we need to pressure Cole and not fear him sure but if this isn't the case of two wolves causing chaos, which I don't think it is, then it's been pretty redundant play.

I hope people can keep seperate Coles strong gameplay and going after him personally, we are all old people now and the fun will be ruined if we get too caught up in the past.

 

[Tubby23]

Also petition for next Zell game to have Tommy and I as priest so we can both Tubby Boy on Day 1

 

[Tubby23]

@shortkut all this talk of Pizza Hut and Dominoes being good pizza is driving me mental and I now see how hurtful my comments about pineapple on pizza were. As such I apologise and if you ever need help bandwagoning these Pizza Hut and Dominoes lovers I'm your man

 

[Zell 17]

What the fuck how drunk do you have to be to love Pizza Hut. I am a vengeful and angry god and all of them might die after this phase. Probably from shitting out their organs after eating Pizza Hut.

 

[shortkut]

You should revive me out of spite!

 

[Tommy Boy]

What the fuck how drunk do you have to be to love Pizza Hut. I am a vengeful and angry god and all of them might die after this phase. Probably from shitting out their organs after eating Pizza Hut.

I am appalled seeing the fake pizza but for some people it's all they have lol. I cannot get behind pizza hut, though. My friend won the pizza hut cologne contest back in 2012 and it was the last time I ate from that place. Shit REEKS.

https://www.thisiswhyimbroke.com/pizza-hut-perfume/

 

[Tubby23]

I think we three agree that we can perhaps kill off anyone in future who mentions Pizza Hut positively

 

[shortkut]

I like how FR is trying to avoid speaking in absolutes, except for calling Cole a wolf. It’s like he doesn’t want to get caught in a lie.

Also, they all need to just shit or get off the pot, because I can’t read another 20 hours of this shit. Everyone to vote skip so Cole or whomever the wolf guardian is can save him then we can just repeat this tomorrow.

It would be funny if FR names all the wolves before night phase and then the wolves kill him. Even if they obscure his role, he can tell the ritualist tonight who can just post it in the main chat and game is over

So far I called what would happen. I’m not sure if Cole is the guardian wolf or the guardian wolf used their ability on him. It’s easy enough for him to claim he is the guardian wolf but have Local or some other wolf who is actually the guardian use the ability to save him

 

[Zell 17]

@Killface! come glean whatever information you think these bozos have

 

[shortkut]

Hello Mr. @Killface! the ritualist! I had some theories here, feel free to steal them as your own or put my name on them. Doesn’t matter

 

[Killface!]

Hello Mr. @shortkut the spirit seer!

I’m catching up on this thread right now

 

[Tommy Boy]

Hello Mr. @shortkut the spirit seer!

I’m catching up on this thread right now

We shit talk pizza and I have joined from another dimension with a similar wolf problem. Welcome.

 

[Tubby23]

Shortkut and the Suicide Priests, it's a great band name

 

[Killface!]

Pizza Hut is fucking trash. At least we can agree on that.

This game has been exhausting. Reading the back and forth between Cole/Ryan/FR. I cannot wait for the post game discussion.

 

[Killface!]

So uhh.

Cole’s a wolf, right? Could he possibly be flower child? Seems unlikely. Fully believe FR is sorcerer. Ryan still being highly suspect. Wouldn’t surprise if both Ryan and Cole are wolves.

 

[Killface!]

Gotta be real with you dawg, I am learning how TRASH I am at wolf and getting super humbled the last few weeks. I'm a one-dimensional thinker, or I suck at lying. Hell, I can't even suspect roles without people like Vash basically screaming he is flower girl. I am committed to getting better by playing more!

Holy shit this is me. Haha. I am utterly trash at this game. But it’s fun when I have a role like this. I feel like I’m in an exclusive cool guys club.

 

[shortkut]

If FR is sorcerer, try to get another name or two from him. “Anyone can sacrifice one wolf to prove their innocence, but there is no way a wolf would sacrifice two team members”

 

[Killface!]

If FR is the sorcerer, why would he give up another name though? Sorcerer is part of the wolf team, so he’s just hurting his own chances of winning right?

 

[Zell 17]

@Cole is dead and will be along in a little bit

 

[shortkut]

If FR is the sorcerer, why would he give up another name though? Sorcerer is part of the wolf team, so he’s just hurting his own chances of winning right?

Sorcerer: You belong to the wolf team because you are evil, but you are not one of them. Each night you can select a player and see their exact role. Selection is made via PM at night. Cannot communicate with the wolves at night and will not be part of wolf chat to discuss plans, but they do know who the wolves are. Using their magical powers, they disguise themselves as an Aura seer. Cannot kill anything at night. Twice per game, during the day, you can reveal a players role that you have checked to all wolves. Does not belong to the village team, so the marksman would kill them. Appears as a villager to the detective and other seer roles. At any time you can resign your powers and become a normal evil werewolf with no powers. You will then be able to communicate with the wolves and join in on kills. Aura: Good

My understanding is the sorcerer is the only character with a good aura who knows all the wolf identities. If he gives up a wolf or two and the real aura seer checks him, he looks legit. He then can join the wolves and then the town won’t realize he is a wolf and now the wolves have a wildcard who can skew the numbers in the wolves favor. Remember, once the number of wolves equals the number of townies, the wolves win

 

[Killface!]

@Cole is dead and will be along in a little bit

Oh he's gonna be mad.

 

[shortkut]

Oh he's gonna be mad.

@Zell 17 i didn’t see the kill update yet

 

[Killface!]

My understanding is the sorcerer is the only character with a good aura who knows all the wolf identities. If he gives up a wolf or two and the real aura seer checks him, he looks legit. He then can join the wolves and then the town won’t realize he is a wolf and now the wolves have a wildcard who can skew the numbers in the wolves favor. Remember, once the number of wolves equals the number of townies, the wolves win

OOH okay. That actually makes sense. Basically get the numbers down and then join the wolf team and get an easy win.

 

[Zell 17]

@Zell 17 i didn’t see the kill update yet

It's not updated yet because I need a little more info. But he'll be dead regardless.

 

[shortkut]

It's not updated yet because I need a little more info. But he'll be dead regardless.

Can you let us know who killed him and his role, or not yet?

 

[Zell 17]

I was talking to Cole and brings up a good point that I think merits consideration. Namely, we have a bit of an issue with targeting in this group. Say, if Cole was the SK, he would have almost no chance to even fake anything because everyone is going to check him night 1. And that's not just Cole.

Cole, canadaguy, and shortkut were the subjects of almost ALL night actions the first day. That's unfair to those players regardless of their roles. So here's my solution, and I'll take thoughts from the gallery.

Night 1, everyone is assigned a number 1-16 when they get their role. Only they will get their number. For all night 1 action, I want a number submitted to me (i.e. I'm the marksman and I mark 14). Once day 1 starts I'll post the numbers and people can play as usual.

 

[Zell 17]

Can you let us know who killed him and his role, or not yet?

Not yet

 

[Cole]

Oh he's gonna be mad.

mad about what? I'm not mad about shit.

 

[shortkut]

Have any of my theories been right?

 

[Zell 17]

Have any of my theories been right?

Your theory about pineapple on pizza seems promising

 

[Killface!]

mad about what? I'm not mad about shit.

Everyone targeting you immediately. That shit would be annoying.

 

[Killface!]

Your theory about pineapple on pizza seems promising

Honestly, there's nothing wrong with pineapple on pizza. The sweet of the pineapple compliments the rest of the pizza.

 

[shortkut]

Your theory about pineapple on pizza seems promising

Only promising? It’s a goddamned natural law. It’s as real as gravity!

 

[shortkut]

Honestly, there's nothing wrong with pineapple on pizza. The sweet of the pineapple compliments the rest of the pizza.

Gtfo of my afterlife. I don’t wish to commune with the living anymore

 

[Cole]

Everyone targeting you immediately. That shit would be annoying.

I'm not mad about it, I knew it would happen the second I pulled off thst play last game

 

[Killface!]

I'm not mad about it, I knew it would happen the second I pulled off thst play last game

You're better than me. Haha. I just like reading your long analysis of everyone playing.

Anything you'd like to share with the group so that I can relay to the land of the living?

 

[Killface!]

Gtfo of my afterlife. I don’t wish to commune with the living anymore

Wait, no. I need your expert takes on who to go after!

Pineapple on pizza is terrible. Terrible I say!

 

[Cole]

You're better than me. Haha. I just like reading your long analysis of everyone playing.

Anything you'd like to share with the group so that I can relay to the land of the living?

Ryan has no idea what he's doing?

 

[Tubby23]

I'm not mad about it, I knew it would happen the second I pulled off thst play last game

Do you feel like it makes the game impossible?

 

[Cole]

Do you feel like it makes the game impossible?

I mean. It depends what my role is, I guess. I'm not the solo killer, but it would be impossible to play it under these rules.

 

[Tubby23]

I was talking to Cole and brings up a good point that I think merits consideration. Namely, we have a bit of an issue with targeting in this group. Say, if Cole was the SK, he would have almost no chance to even fake anything because everyone is going to check him night 1. And that's not just Cole.

Cole, canadaguy, and shortkut were the subjects of almost ALL night actions the first day. That's unfair to those players regardless of their roles. So here's my solution, and I'll take thoughts from the gallery.

Night 1, everyone is assigned a number 1-16 when they get their role. Only they will get their number. For all night 1 action, I want a number submitted to me (i.e. I'm the marksman and I mark 14). Once day 1 starts I'll post the numbers and people can play as usual.

I think this sounds like a good idea. I also think it's such an easy cop out for everyone to use their powers on Cole every night phase. Admittedly I was just part of a wolf team that fucked it up by not doing it.

 

[Cole]

I think this sounds like a good idea. I also think it's such an easy cop out for everyone to use their powers on Cole every night phase. Admittedly I was just part of a wolf team that fucked it up by not doing it.

Ive always been of the opinion night 0 is stupid anyway.

And especially with roles in this game that can stack kills, and important roles that can only begin during the day, I think it's extra silly.

But it is what it is. Regardless of how this game turns out, I want to take a break from the next one, not only is the heat on me too high, but its also taking too much of my attention right now.

But now it'll look all salty if I don't play the next one. But I'm not salty, I think I even told Zell that if my play last game worked I'd be perma-dead every game for like a month.

 

[Killface!]

Night 1, everyone is assigned a number 1-16 when they get their role. Only they will get their number. For all night 1 action, I want a number submitted to me (i.e. I'm the marksman and I mark 14). Once day 1 starts I'll post the numbers and people can play as usual.

I'm probably the last person to offer advice on how to run these games. However, this does prevent players from targeting a specific player and there is still plenty of information gathered to discuss.