Zell Wolf Discussion Thread v3

[Cole]

Survivors, or rather those with a Survivor Personality type, will often adapt and turn skills learned through their trauma into something they can use to their advantage. Quite literally making the best of a bad situation. So long as they aren't masking their trauma and dealing with it in healthy ways, which should always be encouraged especially among men, there's nothing wrong with it.

I'm aware, yeah. Manipulation and reading are my biggest personality strengths.

All I ever predict is you don’t do random idiocy. You’re too smart and calculating because you need to have some idea of the outcome. You don’t throw caution to the wind and go, “fuck it, let’s see what happens”

On the whole, you're not wrong.

but two people in Wolf games have now said a similar thing, "not doing what Cole would typically do is EXACTLY what Cole would typically do."

in FQs wolf game, I literally sowed chaos by design. The kill abstention to match the towns abstention and frame you, the killing of free-lynch-target Vash. The whole point was to to be as chaotic and as entertaining as humanly possible. Am I doing it to steer the outcome? of course I am! But if you think I won't say and do things purely for the sake of chaos, you're also wrong at the same time.

Hell, as a wolfvenger, you know exactly what happened in Zells first game. It was my "rampant honesty and role claiming" that turned that game into the chaos it was.

just look at me like Littlefinger, it's very easy to use chaos to your advantage if you're the one controlling the chaos.

So yes, my bet is anything you think my message was about, you're wrong.

 

[shortkut]

in FQs wolf game, I literally sowed chaos by design. The kill abstention to match the towns abstention and frame you, the killing of free-lynch-target Vash. The whole point was to to be as chaotic and as entertaining as humanly possible. Am I doing it to steer the outcome? of course I am! But if you think I won't say and do things purely for the sake of chaos, you're also wrong at the same time.

When you sow chaos, it’s more of an organized chaos. You are expecting to see certain things. You would not start chaos if you expected the gunner and priest to use their day abilities while we are in the first page of posts just targeting random people, nor would you just use your day kill ability on someone without thinking it through. That’s what I meant

 

[Cole]

When you sow chaos, it’s more of an organized chaos. You are expecting to see certain things. You would not start chaos if you expected the gunner and priest to use their day abilities while we are in the first page of posts just targeting random people, nor would you just use your day kill ability on someone without thinking it through. That’s what I meant

Again, yes and no. Last game, if I had "done the math" and decided someone might take a shot at me in the middle of the day, I still would have done EXACTLY how I started it, it just would have had a different endgame.

Tommy splashing me didn't ruin the plan, it altered it.

I get what you mean, and on the whole, you aren't wrong. Theres a plan for everything, and for everything theres a plan. But what I'm trying to express to you is, I don't always know what the chaos will do, sometimes it'll just be chaos, there are a MILLION ways the previous game could have gone wrong with my opening strategy. But I was confident in my ability to have an "IN CASE OF EMERGENCY, BREAK GAME" strategy.

All I mean to say is, if I don't know what I'm planning yet, you cant either. And it hurts MY brain just thinking about it.

 

[Ryan!]

They're talking about me. This must be what Cole feels like. It's kinda nice

 

[Cole]

Watching the thread last game was AMAZING. I couldn't stop reading it, I was neglecting real life shit to read it.

I said like 10 total words and every single post was about me. The ones that weren't about me were about someone accusing me. It feels pretty cool. I feel more special here than I do IRL!

 

[Cole]

I hope he eventually reads this.

But @Raposa in your modern day shitposting style of Wolf, I had forgotten how dangerous a player you can be.

 

[Ryan!]

Good idea, but Ants read as good so can't be RK. Could be WW Fan or Sorcerer.

 

[Ryan!]

Oh and when @Killface! does read this, he can check time stamps for posting. Pretty sure I brought up Ants read as good well before it was brought up in the day thread. It'll help confirm I'm telling the truth.

 

[Cole]

Oh and when @Killface! does read this, he can check time stamps for posting. Pretty sure I brought up Ants read as good well before it was brought up in the day thread. It'll help confirm I'm telling the truth.

no it doesn't. because that only matters if he's read. lol

oh and thank you again @canadaguy lol

 

[shortkut]

Regardless of his eventual role, I hope @VashTheStampede lives until the end. That thread is a flaming pile of garbage, except for his posts

 

[Ryan!]

no it doesn't. because that only matters if he's read. lol

oh and thank you again @canadaguy lol

Pretty sure Local said he read Ants as good several hours after I posted

 

[Zell 17]

Killface PMed me that he is worried you guys are making fun of the group playing. Of course, that’s what being on the rail is for! You get to point and laugh at all the people on the field still.

 

[Cole]

Pretty sure Local said he read Ants as good several hours after I posted

And? what makes you think LOCAL is telling the truth?

 

[Cole]

Killface PMed me that he is worried you guys are making fun of the group playing. Of course, that’s what being on the rail is for! You get to point and laugh at all the people on the field still.

Tell him I said "if you didn't want me making fun of you you should've kept me alive!"

 

[shortkut]

Killface PMed me that he is worried you guys are making fun of the group playing. Of course, that’s what being on the rail is for! You get to point and laugh at all the people on the field still.

What else are we supposed to do here? Play tiddlywinks?

I didn’t even get to play this game and now I’m bored reading the game thread.

@Zell 17 can I join the thread to post literally nothing but “voting @Cole ”

 

[Zell 17]

We can play a four man game of dead man wolf between shortkut cole tubby and tommy. One of you is a wolf. Day phases are 15 minutes.

 

[Zell 17]

Or we can play Rock Paper Scissors. Tell me what you throw and I’ll tell you if you win

 

[Ryan!]

And? what makes you think LOCAL is telling the truth?

I don't. I don't trust Local and think he's lying. Knowing I'm the Aura Seer, it's less likely he is.

 

[shortkut]

Can I be arsonist? I pour gasoline on Tommy and tubby, convince town and wolves not to kill/lynch for maximum confusion. Then I pour gasoline on Ryan and Cole and ignite winning the game

 

[Cole]

We can play a four man game of dead man wolf between shortkut cole tubby and tommy. One of you is a wolf. Day phases are 15 minutes.

vote Ryan and skip

Or we can play Rock Paper Scissors. Tell me what you throw and I’ll tell you if you win

Food. I throw food.

I don't. I don't trust Local and think he's lying. Knowing I'm the Aura Seer, it's less likely he is.

Havent you had enough being wrong about odds?!

If Local is lying, then your word absolutely does not vindicate you.

 

[Ryan!]

There's at least three liars in that thread. Likely more. Just trying to figure out who.

I mean, besides FR

 

[Tommy Boy]

We can play a four man game of dead man wolf between shortkut cole tubby and tommy. One of you is a wolf. Day phases are 15 minutes.

Tommy waters Zell 17!

 

[Ryan!]

Tommy waters Zell 17!

You die. Again.

 

[Ryan!]

I have figured out a decent Wolf strategy if I ever get to play a bad guy. Still working on one for RK.

 

[shortkut]

There's at least three liars in that thread. Likely more. Just trying to figure out who.

I mean, besides FR

At least some members in that town are wolves and some are townies

 

[Ryan!]

At least some members in that town are wolves and some are townies

I think you may be onto something

 

[Cole]

At least some members in that town are wolves and some are townies

well I mean, Ryans in here. So there's not *THAT* many wolves left.

 

[Ryan!]

well I mean, Ryans in here. So there's not *THAT* many wolves left.

I see what you did there, trying to keep the act up.

 

[Ryan!]

Maybe I was wrong and Cole actually was the RK

 

[Ryan!]

Nah, makes no sense. Wolves wouldn't waste the Guardian power on the one guy they can't kill. And then use the Confusion power to mask my death as well as his.

 

[Cole]

I see what you did there, trying to keep the act up.

what act? you're dead man, we either win or lose together now.

 

[Ryan!]

There's an evil ownie role?

ZELL WHY WASN'T I INFORMED OF THIS!?

If only I could just post screen shots for proof, but I don't think that's in the spirit of the game.

 

[Ryan!]

Plus Zell would just delete them, which I would support anyway

 

[Cole]

I mean yeah, there are technically two.

but thats not the point.

I'm not sure why you're still fighting this so hard. Kat is SO close to figuring out the truth about you anyway, give up the goat man.

 

[Ryan!]

Still the most boneheaded thing she's done. You said she was good at this game.

 

[Cole]

Still the most boneheaded thing she's done. You said she was good at this game.

why are you STILL on that? She read you, who cares? You didn't have a problem when I read you, you even DMed me to say well played.

I hope you'll do the same for her.

 

[Ryan!]

I already said I don't blame her, even if she fumbled

 

[Zell 17]

I already said I don't blame her, even if she fumbled

So riding your chess analogies, these wolf games too often have an opening, middlegame, and endgame. We haven't had any endgames yet. Wonder if we get to one here.

 

[Ryan!]

I wonder who's gonna feel embarrassed when the game ends and the roles are revealed. And then everyone realizes Local was lying his ass off.

See that confidence in assuring that he knows he's on the good guy team? It reeks of desperation to keep a claim fresh in someone's mind.

Dude is a baddie. I'm just not sure which.

 

[Ryan!]

So riding your chess analogies, these wolf games too often have an opening, middlegame, and endgame. We haven't had any endgames yet. Wonder if we get to one here.

Every single game has gotten to middle game by the end of day one. Last game was basically Scholar's Mate.

 

[Cole]

I wonder who's gonna feel embarrassed when the game ends and the roles are revealed. And then everyone realizes Local was lying his ass off.

See that confidence in assuring that he knows he's on the good guy team? It reeks of desperation to keep a claim fresh in someone's mind.

Dude is a baddie. I'm just not sure which.

you, its gonna be you.

because no one bought our play to give you instant credibility.

and instead you died with me because you made yourself too obvious.

 

[Ryan!]

You know Killface isn't dumb enough for you being this obvious, right?

 

[Ryan!]

I'm mostly just salty about the Kat death. She did what she thought was right, even if it was the wrong play.

 

[Cole]

You know Killface isn't dumb enough for you being this obvious, right?

I dont think Killface is dumb *at all*.

 

[Ryan!]

And I don't either.

 

[shortkut]

 

[Cole]

And I don't either.

clearly.

they're not going to buy it anymore man. whats the end game of us continuing?

 

[shortkut]

clearly.

they're not going to buy it anymore man. whats the end game of us continuing?

More stats for @aura seer

 

[Ryan!]

Continuing what?

 

[Cole]

Continuing what?

you trying to convince Killface and therefore the town that you're not also a wolf.

lol

they know, man.