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Everyone has night actions in and skips except for Local. Wolves are attacking Local. If he protects himself there might be some shenanigans.
Man, if he recognizes TD was full or garbage after Benzine's death and realizes he should redirect to Kut/Ben, this could get interesting... But if he doesn't it's pretty much GG. No pressure Local lol
 

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So night 2 I protected TD and targeted Ben.

If you mother fuckin' wolves had just targeted him...
Would not have mattered. Kut is the wolf instigator and almost certainly told TD the targets. He's also a Blind Wolf, which means if things went ass up, he resigns his power and essentially controls the wolf kill.
 

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As of now, the instigators pretty much control the lynch target. Even if Lee and Jump vote with Fool, it ends up in a tie and Kut controls the wolf kill. They probably lynch Jump today (or tie), tomorrow night wolves kill Fool and then lynch Lee. GG. There's nothing anyone can do but watch.
 

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NFN but they're totally benefitting on Lee being new, too. He's just rolling along as a passenger because he can't win without being converted, but even if he was, he's losing. If he doesn't get converted, that's a faster win for Instig team right? Because technically he's on the wildcard team?
I think they have to kill him, but it's probably equally easy for them to do whether he's a wolf or not.

Wolf fan is a tough role for a new player. I feel for Lee.
 

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NFN but they're totally benefitting on Lee being new, too. He's just rolling along as a passenger because he can't win without being converted, but even if he was, he's losing. If he doesn't get converted, that's a faster win for Instig team right? Because technically he's on the wildcard team?
No one needs to convert him. Kut can convince Jump that turning him just wastes one of their kills, and he controls the vote against Jump anyway. Lee is likely never going to get turned here. Turning him actually HURTS the instigators because then Jump and Lee COULD figure it all out and realize they outvote Kut and can kill Ben, take out Kut too, then lynch TD and wolves win.

Essentially, there is a path for everyone except the town. They can't win lol.
 

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Of course, that's only if Kut hasn't resigned powers and chooses not to if Jump were to target Lee. Which at this point seems unlikely. I'm willing to bet Kut resigned a bit ago
I think if kut resigns then he becomes a regular wolf, and Jump would outrank him, so technically it could happen. He has been an SK a lot, so maybe it'll occur to him.
 

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I think if kut resigns then he becomes a regular wolf, and Jump would outrank him, so technically it could happen. He has been an SK a lot, so maybe it'll occur to him.
He's the blind wolf. He just resigns his power. Unlike the sorcerer, he's still the blind wolf and is higher ranked. The sorcerer isn't a ranked wolf and specifically says it becomes the reg werewolf (which is ranked). I only know this stuff because it legit happened to me 2/3 three games... the 2 I was a wolf in.
 

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I think this is the first game where instigator wasn't even mentioned once. I know that was purposeful, but it is frustrating that even now, with Kut saying the only SK role possible is the arso is so BLATENTLY misleading... I know Fool's is kinda putting it together now, too little too late, but it's frustrating not a SINGLE person bothered to identify the roles out there and say, "Hmm, not a single kill. I wonder what SK roles fit this?" The SK almost CERTAINLY would have acted here. it's not the corruptor skipping kills. The arso almost certainly would have blown SOMEONE up by now.... Must have an instigator and... oh, hey that makes sense why EVERYONE IS ACTING SO WEIRD LIKE A SEER!
 
I think this is the first game where instigator wasn't even mentioned once. I know that was purposeful, but it is frustrating that even now, with Kut saying the only SK role possible is the arso is so BLATENTLY misleading... I know Fool's is kinda putting it together now, too little too late, but it's frustrating not a SINGLE person bothered to identify the roles out there and say, "Hmm, not a single kill. I wonder what SK roles fit this?" The SK almost CERTAINLY would have acted here. it's not the corruptor skipping kills. The arso almost certainly would have blown SOMEONE up by now.... Must have an instigator and... oh, hey that makes sense why EVERYONE IS ACTING SO WEIRD LIKE A SEER!
I don't get paid to think.
 

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He's the blind wolf. He just resigns his power. Unlike the sorcerer, he's still the blind wolf and is higher ranked. The sorcerer isn't a ranked wolf and specifically says it becomes the reg werewolf (which is ranked). I only know this stuff because it legit happened to me 2/3 three games... the 2 I was a wolf in.
Oh. In that case, yeah, wolves are fucked. No way kut just lets Jump kill Ben.
 
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I don't get paid to think.
I'm prone to overthinking... but if you're playing this game, rational deductions are necessary to help your team win. You don't have to think, but that's what happens with a game like this one. Take out the thinkers and the rest go along with the most vocal. I probably don't survive day one if I played.

Have I mentioned I'm glad I didn't play this game?
 

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I think this is the first game where instigator wasn't even mentioned once. I know that was purposeful, but it is frustrating that even now, with Kut saying the only SK role possible is the arso is so BLATENTLY misleading... I know Fool's is kinda putting it together now, too little too late, but it's frustrating not a SINGLE person bothered to identify the roles out there and say, "Hmm, not a single kill. I wonder what SK roles fit this?" The SK almost CERTAINLY would have acted here. it's not the corruptor skipping kills. The arso almost certainly would have blown SOMEONE up by now.... Must have an instigator and... oh, hey that makes sense why EVERYONE IS ACTING SO WEIRD LIKE A SEER!
I like to think I would've looked by day 2 with all of the shenanigans of the first day and no SK kills, but I completely forgot about that role.

If someone is really a spirit seer next game, they are not going to have a good time.
 

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Lol, it's hard to tell with him.
He says he doesn't read because of memes at this point. He is great at filtering out noise and then is probably one of the smartest players there is. He KNOWS what he's doing. It was nice being a wolf with him for the first time and watching how he thinks behind the scenes. Don't let the innocence deter you. He knows what he's doing.
 

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He says he doesn't read because of memes at this point. He is great at filtering out noise and then is probably one of the smartest players there is. He KNOWS what he's doing. It was nice being a wolf with him for the first time and watching how he thinks behind the scenes. Don't let the innocence deter you. He knows what he's doing.
Apparently he was playing innocent in the wolf chat with me then, because I had to go look up a half dozen rules for him.
 

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Lmao... the one last hope for a non-instigator win literally just said...

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So while shortkut and td avoid my questions, obviously evil

But Local and Fool? Really annoying. Just shows a lack of interest in winning.

I hope some players learn a few different things this game. Especially how obvious it is when TD is evil every single time. Like Tommy pre glow up levels of obvious.

Stop getting taken for a ride and have a think about things and why people say, or don't say, certain things.

@Jawneh stop voting for me
 
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