Zell Wolf Zell Wolf 20 - Day 3

[Kat]

Trust me when I say they're going even less in the town's way.

Oh dear.

So who's the SK?

 

[A Punched Face]

What happened with yesterday's vote? Non-coordinated wolves or did you want kut to follow through and kill the beast hunter?

 

[Benzine]

They can’t chat and may be making mistakes Or someone had the genius idea to know kut was gonna kill an innocent

 

[Smacktard]

*ting ting*



Your attention, please. I have an announcement to make.

 

[A Punched Face]

Kelly is the SK and about to kill everyone?

 

[Local Hero]

Your attention, please. I have an announcement to make.

 

[Kat]

Kelly is the SK and about to kill everyone?

I think the SK lighting up the town is our only hope at this point

 

[Smacktard]

This may come as a shock to you all, but...

(Please sit down for this)

...I am actually a wolf.

*gasps are heard*
*a woman faints*
*a voice is heard in the back of the room saying "I told you so!", but it is the lone voice among the crowd's sea of hushed gasps*

Yes, yes, I know, this is a truly stupefying development.

I am here today to speak on behalf of the wolves, but I am addressing only one of you.

The wolves would like to extend an offer to the mysterious solo murderer -- the one who hasn't actually yet murdered. So, I guess the solo conspirator, when you really think about it.

Anyway, the wolves think you'll agree that a town victory is one of the most abhorrent, despicable outcomes of this game. And yet, if you vote with the town today, you can be assured this will be the outcome of the game.

You see, we wolves have one nightmare use left. And we're going to use it on you tonight.

If you don't vote with us, that's the end of our reign, but also yours. A town with a jailer and a preacher can't be beaten by our powers combined and with you nightmared. Unless we combine our powers for this vote today.

Vote with us and you have a shot at winning.

It's not the most elegant solution -- it's likely that the town will have to pick the victor -- but it's the only solution in which you possibly have a shot at winning.

Hell, we'll even let you choose the victim of the lynch: Benzine or Vash.

TO VOTE BENZINE, REACT WITH:
TO VOTE VASH, REACT WITH: (little blue man)
(Fellow wolfies, please react as well so we cover the identity of the SK)

If you don't vote with us, Vash and Benzine will survive just long enough to end our shot at victory. Benzine can kill you, and Vash can outvote us all. This is the only way.

So, Solo Conspirator, who are we lynching today? Vash or Benzine? Your call.

@Jawneh
@Local Hero
@Ben
@VashTheStampede

 

[VashTheStampede]

And to think you wanted to skip

 

[Smacktard]

And to think you wanted to skip

heh heh, gott'em

 

[Benzine]

Oopsie doodle Kelly

 

[Benzine]

I shoot Kelly.

 

[Local Hero]

I shoot Kelly.

I knew I protected you for a reason

 

[Smacktard]

I shoot Kelly.

I artfully dodge.

 

[Benzine]

Why on earth would the SK want to align with you? Do you think they’ll kill all the wolves at once?

Do you have extra votes, Vash?

 

[A Punched Face]

Hey SK vote with the town and then Benzine can jail the nightmare wolf to be unable to use his powers tonight. You'll be able to set everyone on fire that way.

 

[Benzine]

Yeah

 

[Kat]

Why not just lynch the SK? The chance of the town actually all voting Ben is basically nill.

 

[Smacktard]

Hey SK vote with the town and then Benzine can jail the nightmare wolf to be unable to use his powers tonight. You'll be able to set everyone on fire that way.

Yeah

Wolf nightmare is the first thing that activates. Nice try tricking the SK. Maybe if you want to change the outcome, try approaching him with honesty, like me.

 

[Benzine]

I’m glad I’ve hosted and mostly know the rules now

 

[Benzine]

For the ones who know,

During the day

 

[A Punched Face]

Wolf nightmare is the first thing that activates. Nice try tricking the SK. Maybe if you want to change the outcome, try approaching him with honesty, like me.

Warden jail is sent in during the day and prevents the player from performing any night actions.

Notice how the Warden Kill happens before the Warden protect? I wonder how someone could kill another person in Jail if they're not yet in jail.

 

[Smacktard]

Why not just lynch the SK? The chance of the town actually all voting Ben is basically nill.

The wolves know the town won't honor that commitment. The SK is the only one who could benefit from allying with the wolves. The town will betray the poor oppressed wolves, tie the vote, and then the SK and the wolves will both lose.

 

[Smacktard]

Warden jail is sent in during the day and prevents the player from performing any night actions.

The nightmare wolf is sent during the day, too.

 

[A Punched Face]

The wolves know the town won't honor that commitment. The SK is the only one who could benefit from allying with the wolves. The town will betray the poor oppressed wolves, tie the vote, and then the SK and the wolves will both lose.

And if the SK has literally everyone targeted at this point as an arsonist?

 

[A Punched Face]

The nightmare wolf is sent during the day, too.

Oh cool so if you Nightmare the warden then the SK isn't Nightmared and gets to kill everyone huh?

 

[Benzine]

There’s many reasons why what Kelly saying isn’t right, but he’s not saying anything wrong either

 

[Kat]

@Zell 17 can nightmare wolf nightmare someone the same night they're jailed?

 

[Smacktard]

Why on earth would the SK want to align with you? Do you think they’ll kill all the wolves at once?

Do you have extra votes, Vash?

Because they're forced to. We're going to nightmare them. Between your ability to kill and Vash's extra votes, the town kills a wolf one night (or maybe the SK), and outvotes the wolves the next day. The town secures the game.

Wolves brokering a deal with the SK is the only way the town loses. Who wins is genuinely not certain. I know we hate kingmaker situations, but that's where we'll end up.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Do you have extra votes, Vash?

Just one

 

[Benzine]

If I jail and am nightmares, the players are still jailed.

I was also nightmared already last night. There must be two nightmare wolves if this plan can peel off, which is good news for no other wolf type. Or he’s lying and dying tonight.

 

[Benzine]

You aren’t going to nightmare the sk lol

 

[Smacktard]

Oh cool so if you Nightmare the warden then the SK isn't Nightmared and gets to kill everyone huh?

...but that wasn't what I said we would do? Why would we cause ourselves to lose outright like that when we still have a potential path to victory?

 

[Benzine]

Insert a local hero level gif about why you lying or something g

 

[Smacktard]

You aren’t going to nightmare the sk lol

 

[Smacktard]

The SK knows everything I say to be true.

 

[A Punched Face]

...but that wasn't what I said we would do? Why would we cause ourselves to lose outright like that when we still have a potential path to victory?

Your potential path to victory is setting the SK up to have 0 path to victory.

 

[Kat]

Do the wolves even know for sure who the SK is? Kinda seems like they're trying to flush him out.

 

[Kat]

Or they're trying to get the SK to vote differently than the town so the wolf lynch of the SK goes through.

 

[Kat]

Just one

If this is true then I think it doesn't matter what we do, wolves control the lynch.

 

[A Punched Face]

Or they're trying to get the SK to vote differently than the town so the wolf lynch of the SK goes through.

Yeah, there's no reason why they wouldn't just kill off the SK today, nightmare Benzine, and then call it a day and win tomorrow.

Who did you Jail last night Benzine? Anyone?

 

[VashTheStampede]

If this is true then I think it doesn't matter what we do, wolves control the lynch.

SK can force a tie which means no lynch

 

[A Punched Face]

If this is true then I think it doesn't matter what we do, wolves control the lynch.

4 town +1
1 SK

That's 6.

 

[Smacktard]

Your potential path to victory is setting the SK up to have 0 path to victory.

Not true. That's what happens if he votes with the town, tying the vote, and we nightmare him.

Nightmare is sent during the day, so by the time the lynch happens, it will be too late to change. The SK will be nightmared and won't be able to kill. Feel free to check this with Zell. I already did today.

If he votes for either Vash or Benzine, the SK lives another day because the wolves can't kill at night. There will likely be 2 wolves left, 2 villagers left, and the SK. Hence the "kingmaker" situation. The town just has to decide whether they want the game to go to the wolves or to the SK.

 

[Kat]

Do you mean one extra vote?

 

[VashTheStampede]

Do you mean one extra vote?

Oh, yeah, I have 2 votes

 

[A Punched Face]

Yeah this is a ploy to make it so they can lynch the SK today and just kill overnight to win tomorrow when the morning starts.

 

[Benzine]

Yeah, there's no reason why they wouldn't just kill off the SK today, nightmare Benzine, and then call it a day and win tomorrow.

Who did you Jail last night Benzine? Anyone?

I went for an odd play of jailing no one cause I was super worried about the telegraphed warden stuff and I didn’t want to be responsible for a berserk.

 

[Kat]

Oh, yeah, I have 2 votes

I reread what you replied to, my bad.

SK this is almost certainly a trap. They have no reason not to lynch you regardless of what they say or you do.

 

[A Punched Face]

This is the actual play:

They get the SK to not vote with the town
They lynch the SK
Benzine is nightmared (no warden kill)
Benzine is killed (no protection)

Game over. This play is a 0% chance for the SK to win.