Zell Wolf Zell Wolf 20 - Day 3

[Local Hero]

So between Ben, Vash, Jawneh, Kelly, we have our wives and SK?

 

[Ben]

I checked shortkut against Quagmire, but big lot of good that did me.

Ben: Violinist who "confirmed" Vash, but also used that confirmation to say he trusted Jawneh
Jawneh: Looks like an evil
Kelly: Failed Marksman
Local: Failed Body Guard
Vash: Pacifist

I think my opinion on Jawneh was based off of what others had said. I can't recall what it was that cleared him, it just seemed everyone was trusting him along with Benzine yesterday.

 

[Ben]

lmao Jawneh claimed Spirit Seer, not Detective. No idea why Ben put down Detective.

(I am bad at this game, that's why.)

 

[Smacktard]

Kelly: Failed Marksman

I mean, I did get nightmared but I know no one is going to buy it, so why take it seriously? I know I'm toast anyway no matter what I say. This is why I didn't want to reveal my target yesterday.

 

[Local Hero]

So between Ben, Vash, Jawneh, Kelly, we have our wives and SK?

I marry Kelly

 

[A Punched Face]

So between Ben, Vash, Jawneh, Kelly, we have our wives and SK?

Local married to a wolf confirm. Is wolf.

 

[Local Hero]

Jon coupled two pairs, no fair

 

[Smacktard]

So between Ben, Vash, Jawneh, Kelly, we have our wives and SK?

Rich coming from the bodyguardn't
(I'll be your internet wife tho )

 

[A Punched Face]

So both Kelly and Local are very quick to join my vote on Jawneh. At least one, if not both, is evil.

 

[Smacktard]

I marry Kelly

I didn't even see this post before I made mine. Two souls, one heart

 

[VashTheStampede]

Hey if we lynch Local can we get a 2-for-1 special on Kelly?

 

[VashTheStampede]

At least one, if not both, is evil.

It's the second thing

 

[VashTheStampede]

So I think the elephant in the room is: what happens with the SK when we lynch a wolf?

 

[Smacktard]

So I think the elephant in the room is: what happens with the SK when we lynch a wolf?

And that elephant is named Vash

 

[Jawneh]

From brain to text, here we go!

I'm a spirit seer, not a detective. Though I'm still a dick, but that's irrelevant (or highly relevant? Take your pick.)

I'm starting to believe pacifist Vash is the solo killer. None of the rest would have the willpower not to stick to the bit and not commit a murder by day 3. And it's very doubtful an arsonist would've doused only people that have died already.

Last night, I took an eyeball out for Local and Tommy, in case kut wasn't blasting one of them. Since Tommy is dead, we're left with Local as red.

Looking at that, we got all the evils between Local, Ben, Kelly, and Vash. We just need to logic this out somehow that doesn't bring us 2:1 with the solo dead too. Assuming there's no weird shenanigans I'm leaving a gaping hole for.

 

[Zell 17]

 

[VashTheStampede]

None of the rest would have the willpower not to stick to the bit and not commit a murder by day 3.

That's very sweet of you to say and another reason I'm sad you're a lying liar

 

[Smacktard]

And this is exactly why I voted Jawneh. Can we wrap this day up already?

 

[VashTheStampede]

Yeah guys Kelly has an appointment at the gallows

 

[VashTheStampede]

My concern is that Jawneh is the solo killer and taking him out might win for the wolves?

I haven't had breakfast yet so I'm not mathing

 

[Local Hero]

Tommy, in case kut wasn't blasting one of them. Since Tommy is dead, we're left with Local as red.

Jawneh is wolf.

 

[Smacktard]

Jawneh is wolf.

How do you know he's not the SK?

 

[Local Hero]

I don't. But he would be risking a lot of scrutiny by saying he saw red with dimmerwit and I if we were both townies.

He's operating on wolf knowledge.

 

[Jawneh]

That's very sweet of you to say and another reason I'm sad you're a lying liar

Between the confirmed townies, the only way this works, considering there hasn't been any solo kills and Local being red, you have to be the solo.

We got 3 confirmed townies, we got me with confirmed checks, and an wolf Ben tailing me to get credit. Though if you think I'm the solo and controlling the wolves too then sure. Today's the day the wolves want to try to lynch the solo to try to bag a win tonight.

 

[Smacktard]

I don't. But he would be risking a lot of scrutiny by saying he saw red with dimmerwit and I if we were both townies.

He's operating on wolf knowledge.

Fair enough, makes sense to me.

 

[Jawneh]

Jawneh is wolf.

I'm the ritualist.

Didn't you see Alu come back to life?

I don't. But he would be risking a lot of scrutiny by saying he saw red with dimmerwit and I if we were both townies.

He's operating on wolf knowledge.

Playing the devil's (Local's) advocate here for a moment. I feel I would do a riskier play and trust my feels on bagging a wolf from 2 not-so-random people. Considering yesterday we had 10 people, 4 of which were wolves, and from those Benzine and Kat were already going to be confirming their thing and everyone was believing Vash. So in the end it was just between 3 people and 4 wolves.

As a wolf it would just be a bog standard throw a wolf under the train, especially considering dimmer was a shadow wolf and they used the shadow the same day.

Both plausible things.

Or Local trying to avoid being lynched and throwing doubt on last unconfirmed townie.

 

[Jawneh]

Off topic, I'll be gone for a little bit while tidying and organizing my bedroom for a bit. I'll be back innnnnnnnn.... idk, couple hours? Few hours?

 

[Jawneh]

Oh, one thing before I leave.

Discussion question:

@VashTheStampede @Smacktard @Ben

Why no solo kills? Not pointing a finger with the question. I want to hear an opinion.

(Well, yes pointing a finger as the solo is between the three of you, but not specifically.)

 

[VashTheStampede]

Alu I would just like to point out that the 3 people going with your Jawneh vote are all evil so maybe Jawneh isn't the right lynch today

 

[A Punched Face]

Alu I would just like to point out that the 3 people going with your Jawneh vote are all evil so maybe Jawneh isn't the right lynch today

That's why I pointed out that both Local and Kelly jumped on the lynch pretty quick. Also why I by no means think we should skip.

 

[Smacktard]

Alu I would just like to point out that the 3 people going with your Jawneh vote are all evil so maybe Jawneh isn't the right lynch today

If you're good (which I know you aren't), Jawneh has to be evil, so I don't understand this logic.

 

[VashTheStampede]

If you're good (which I know you aren't), Jawneh has to be evil, so I don't understand this logic.

Wolves need solo killer to die so they can win

They can't kill solo killer at night

But you know this already

 

[Ben]

Wolves need solo killer to die so they can win

They can't kill solo killer at night

But you know this already

So you're saying Jawneh is the solo killer? What about his correct read on dimmerwit and whoever, implying wolf knowledge? Assuming he's no longer being trusted based on what Kat said earlier, etc.

I assumed the SK was Local waiting to burn everyone and Jawneh was a wolf, but you're implying it'd be the other way around.

 

[A Punched Face]

If you're good (which I know you aren't), Jawneh has to be evil, so I don't understand this logic.

As Vash pointed out, it needs to be the right evil today.

Are you trying to get back on the list I mistakenly put you on before about arguing that killing the solo killer is fine even though it would almost certainly lead to an instant wolf win?

 

[VashTheStampede]

So you're saying Jawneh is the solo killer? What about his correct read on dimmerwit and whoever, implying wolf knowledge? Assuming he's no longer being trusted based on what Kat said earlier, etc.

I assumed the SK was Local waiting to burn everyone and Jawneh was a wolf, but you're implying it'd be the other way around.

I think there's a non-zero chance that Jawneh is a very bad Evil Detective

That's my hope, at least

 

[A Punched Face]

So you're saying Jawneh is the solo killer? What about his correct read on dimmerwit and whoever, implying wolf knowledge? Assuming he's no longer being trusted based on what Kat said earlier, etc.

I assumed the SK was Local waiting to burn everyone and Jawneh was a wolf, but you're implying it'd be the other way around.

At least one, if not two (or three), people voting for Jawneh is a wolf at this point. There is also the weird possibility that he is who he says he is and is a townie.

No one has argued to start with any other person first (other than now Vash), which leads me to believe that they're okay with him going now.

 

[VashTheStampede]

And I'm also just going to toss out the idea that Ben switching his vote to Local makes me worry that Local is an Alpha.

IMO the best course of action is to lynch Kelly and move from there.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Or Ben, I suppose

 

[Ben]

I think there's a non-zero chance that Jawneh is a very bad Evil Detective

That's my hope, at least

And I'm also just going to toss out the idea that Ben switching his vote to Local makes me worry that Local is an Alpha.

IMO the best course of action is to lynch Kelly and move from there.

My assumption was Local was SK and Jawneh wolf. You just said it's the other way around and we don't want to kill the SK.

Why wouldn't I switch off of him?

 

[Kat]

Town:
Ancle Suck
Benzine
Kat

1 town rest bad:
Ben
Jawneh
Local Hero
Smacktard
VashTheStampede

So Jawneh and Vash can't both be good.

Jawneh really wants us to kill Local.

I have an hour of meetings so I guess I'll be back in a bit.

 

[VashTheStampede]

My assumption was Local was SK and Jawneh wolf. You just said it's the other way around and we don't want to kill the SK.

Why wouldn't I switch off of him?

Your bigger problem is that I'm pretty sure your false violinist play said I was on the same team as a dead townie.

Both you and I cannot be on the town side.

 

[A Punched Face]

Your bigger problem is that I'm pretty sure your false violinist play said I was on the same team as a dead townie.

Both you and I cannot be on the town side.

And again, he used that information to "vouch" for Jawneh as well.

 

[VashTheStampede]

And again, he used that information to "vouch" for Jawneh as well.

Which could also be like his read on me in that he thought Jawneh was town and was seeking legitimacy

 

[A Punched Face]

I'm switching to Ben for the time being. There's a 0% chance he would get a false "you're town" read on someone. No illusionist trickery here either, since the comparison was to the dead body with a revealed role.

 

[Kat]

I kinda doubt Jawneh is a wolf. They were so close in numbers yesterday, there was no reason for them to sacrifice a wolf.

Jawneh still has the strongest townie claim from the unknown group. Vash could be evil and still blue. He could be SK and just guessing who the wolves are, though.

 

[Local Hero]

I'm good voting with whatever Alu wants. Voting Ben

 

[Local Hero]

Vash has also followed Alu's voting patterns, just commenting.

 

[A Punched Face]

Vash has also followed Alu's voting patterns, just commenting.

Nah he was voting for Kelly while I was voting for Jawneh.

 

[Local Hero]

Nah he was voting for Kelly while I was voting for Jawneh.

Oh, my apologies.

 

[Ben]

Your bigger problem is that I'm pretty sure your false violinist play said I was on the same team as a dead townie.

Both you and I cannot be on the town side.

Matched to the dead body, which I assume counts as a villager and not some [null] entity.

I clearly haven't been following enough to actually pick up on what everyone is claiming and/or am just bad. I thought Tommy was doctor until he died, clearly I assumed Jawneh was detective.

I kinda doubt Jawneh is a wolf. They were so close in numbers yesterday, there was no reason for them to sacrifice a wolf.

Jawneh still has the strongest townie claim from the unknown group.

I can't recall (nor have time to go look back over) what it was that made you assume him clear yesterday. That's what most of my guessing went off of. Same with Benzine, I assume based on what you said.

Vash could be evil and still blue. He could be SK and just guessing who the wolves are, though.

There's something up with the whole screaming preacher out the gate and then claiming everyone who cleared him is a liar.