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VTS Mafia The Morgue (Game 1)

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Until we unlock the Freemasons.
Don’t you mean the stonecutters?

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Can we unlock a scenario where one stonecutter is mafia to infiltrate and try to steer them wrong?
 

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Some general game feedback now that I have some time:

Easy ones:
- Talking outside the game needs to be disallowed
- There should be at least some kind of protection role that isn't a cop
- The Vigilante should not have unlimited kills

More depth:
- The trial system, on the surface it seemed really cool which is why I wanted to be the first on trial. However, it feels like no information came to light because of it. The stakes need to rise on these trials. Just spit balling an idea but maybe something like there's two players on trial at a time. Same trial for both, at least one of them must receive a guilty verdict. That raises the stakes. Cop should've been for trials but it was used as one time protection. It might drive conversation and discussion. That way the town just can't keep jailing people and voting not guilty.
 

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That could be a random mafia role to avoid the mafia getting too many advantages

Question… is there a “wildcard” role that could go either way? I’ve seen the whole crooked cop/solo killer thing, but that seems more like a individual win scenario than what I’m asking about.

Night 1 the wildcard has access to everyone and everything.

Night 2 the wildcard has to make a decision that locks them out of viewing other member’s threads, but they can still post their own in any sub-forum or the main forum.

Night 3 the wildcard has to make another decision alienating them from one side entirely, or making a strike against the other, effectively excommunicating them from one side or being equally restricted by both.

Night 4 the wildcard has to fully commit to one side or the other, revealing themselves as the wildcard and possibly whatever information they were able to ascertain.

Night 5 allows the wildcard to perform actions with the side they aligned with, potentially tipping the scales.

…and so on depending on how long it lasts.

So, is that a role already? Or a thing y’all like the sound of?
 

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I also would argue there's a case for the cop roles arrest to come after kills. With the way it is, it's a one-time pseudo protection and seer - as well as the ability to put someone on trial. It's one time use, but it can do a lot. I get the vibe it wasn't intended to be anything but putting someone suspicious on trial but it wasn't used for that.
 

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Easy ones:
- Talking outside the game needs to be disallowed
- There should be at least some kind of protection role that isn't a cop
- The Vigilante should not have unlimited kills.
These have been addressed already, thankfully.

1. Definitely disallowing talking outside of game.
2&3. We unlocked one protection role and I'm changing the Vigilante to a counter-kill role, so there's more protection there as well.

As for the trial aspect, I'm going to be very conservative with changes to that for two reasons. One, we've got more roles incoming that will affect how trials go. And two, there is one MAJOR change left in the game that we haven't gotten to yet that will further separate this from the other wolf games.
 

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Question… is there a “wildcard” role that could go either way? I’ve seen the whole crooked cop/solo killer thing, but that seems more like a individual win scenario than what I’m asking about.

Night 1 the wildcard has access to everyone and everything.

Night 2 the wildcard has to make a decision that locks them out of viewing other member’s threads, but they can still post their own in any sub-forum or the main forum.

Night 3 the wildcard has to make another decision alienating them from one side entirely, or making a strike against the other, effectively excommunicating them from one side or being equally restricted by both.

Night 4 the wildcard has to fully commit to one side or the other, revealing themselves as the wildcard and possibly whatever information they were able to ascertain.

Night 5 allows the wildcard to perform actions with the side they aligned with, potentially tipping the scales.

…and so on depending on how long it lasts.

So, is that a role already? Or a thing y’all like the sound of?
There is definitely something here and I think I know how to implement it.

We gonna go all The Departed on this shit.
 

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I was pretty happy with how it went in the actual game threads. Will be interested to see how it goes with an early mobster trial and them possibly using the opportunity to false role claim when no one can directly refute them.
I mean mine was fairly early, but I didn't have the heart in it to counter claim. I had my suspicions that Cole being arrested wasn't just a coincidence, and he confirmed that. Even if I put up a fight, enough people had been in contact with him that it wouldn't have made any difference, and I felt that was the case going into the day.

Also it wasn't so much I "was suspicious" to go on trial, I had been outed by the same person who contacted everyone. There wasn't much fun to be had in the counter claim for me, which is why I was trying to tell Cole it was over and he needed to see it. He even knew more than I did for sure, and it should have been blatantly obvious, but there was nothing I'd have been able to do.
 

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Tubby should try to claim zell is mafia not JS. Zell was the one who had the plan to jail mafia and use a lack of kill as evidence. stubby needs to try to spin the claim that Zell chose not to kill, to make tubby look guilty. Executing a townie during the day or via a hit overnight is the same for him
 

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Tubby should try to claim zell is mafia not JS. Zell was the one who had the plan to jail mafia and use a lack of kill as evidence. stubby needs to try to spin the claim that Zell chose not to kill, to make tubby look guilty. Executing a townie during the day or via a hit overnight is the same for him
While that's definitely the play, I don't think it'd work at all. They also have the numbers where they could just vote guilty on Tubby and arrest Zell as a back up.
 
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