The Hockey Thread

[MC74]

.aaaaand the Hawk Tuah girl dunked on the Bruins. Just when you thought it couldn't get any sillier.

 

[Crystal]

Not to be one of those "here are my opinions spouted by other people" type of people, but...yeah, here are a coupe of decent opinions spouted by someone else:

 

[MC74]

Not to be one of those "here are my opinions spouted by other people" type of people, but...yeah, here are a coupe of decent opinions spouted by someone else:

It really is an ugly situation, and I agree with Eck talking about how management grossly mishandled the situation.

 

[MC74]

Frank Seravalli also saying the Bruins offered 8 years at $7.8M rather than the $8M that was implied by Neeley.

 

[Jon]

Frank Seravalli also saying the Bruins offered 8 years at $7.8M rather than the $8M that was implied by Neeley.

The nickel and diming is killing me...

 

[MC74]

The nickel and diming is killing me...

Not that I'm keen on paying $10M for such a volatile position, but you gotta realize that's what market value is at now. Like I said, Price & Bob set that benchmark, and that's what's going to be used going forward when comparing goalies at the highest level.

 

[Jon]

Not that I'm keen on paying $10M for such a volatile position, but you gotta realize that's what market value is at now. Like I said, Price & Bob set that benchmark, and that's what's going to be used going forward when comparing goalies at the highest level.

Oh, sure. I just mean if this is really over .2 million per season, the blame is on both sides.

 

[MC74]

Oh, sure. I just mean if this is really over .2 million per season, the blame is on both sides.

Absolutely, and if it turns out that both sides are playing dirty, this could lead to one messy divorce.

 

[Jon]

Absolutely, and if it turns out that both sides are playing dirty, this could lead to one messy divorce.

Not to mention essentially end Bruins championship hopes.

 

[MC74]

Not to mention essentially end Bruins championship hopes.

Korpisalo.

 

[The Eye in the Sky!]

He might be okay with the defense built around him.

But for the love of god they need Swayman. They painted themselves into a corner trading Ullmark so quickly.

 

[Jon]

He might be okay with the defense built around him.

But for the love of god they need Swayman. They painted themselves into a corner trading Ullmark so quickly.

I mean Swayman proved to be better than Ullmark, but to not have him locked up, or the intent to pay the man, you shouldn't have traded Ullmark. You sold your leverage at that point.

 

[MC74]

Friedman said there might be a trade request submitted. Boston might be up shit creek without a paddle.

 

[rktaker]

 

[MC74]

Friedman said Boston HAS offered 8x8. Also, the Bruins have tabled these offers: 4x6.25, 8x6.5, 8x7.5, 8x8. Yet, Swayman's camp have denied that the Bruins offered Swayman that.

 

[Jon]

Friedman said Boston HAS offered 8x8. Also, the Bruins have tabled these offers: 4x6.25, 8x6.5, 8x7.5, 8x8. Yet, Swayman's camp have denied that the Bruins offered Swayman that.

I'm inclined to agree with the player here. There's no reason for him to lie. It backs the team into a corner and if they reneg the deal someone will pay him. I haven't checked, but I doubt he's an RFA

 

[MC74]

I'm inclined to agree with the player here. There's no reason for him to lie. It backs the team into a corner and if they reneg the deal someone will pay him. I haven't checked, but I doubt he's an RFA

He is RFA.

 

[Jon]

He is RFA.

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Ahh, then no one will pay the cost. Last I checked, that number was like 2 firsts. So... it makes less sense for him to lie.

 

[MC74]

Ahh, then no one will pay the cost. Last I checked, that number was like 2 firsts. So... it makes less sense for him to lie.

Regardless, there's conflicting information coming out of this and that's concerning. There's definitely some dirty dealings going on here. Whether it's from one side, the other, or both however, remains to be seen. But one thing's for certain. Boston has until the 1st of December to sign him, but even so, the season is about to start and Boston DOES NOT want to have Korpisalo as their starter.

 

[Jon]

Regardless, there's conflicting information coming out of this and that's concerning. There's definitely some dirty dealings going on here. Whether it's from one side, the other, or both however, remains to be seen. But one thing's for certain. Boston has until the 1st of December to sign him, but even so, the season is about to start and Boston DOES NOT want to have Korpisalo as their starter.

Not getting an argument from me. The B's have been so good paying their guys recently that doing this is sad.

 

[MC74]

Not getting an argument from me. The B's have been so good paying their guys recently that doing this is sad.

Not to mention they traded Ullmark to pave the way for him to take over. For them to do this makes no sense.

 

[MC74]

Jeremy Swayman and the Boston Bruins were finally able to come to terms. 8 years at $8.25M.

 

[a dip goblin]

I was holding off on posting here until they finally had that squared away.

 

[Jon]

Jeremy Swayman and the Boston Bruins were finally able to come to terms. 8 years at $8.25M.

All that bullshit for a quarter million a season....

Just what I said I didn't want to see...

 

[MC74]

All that bullshit for a quarter million a season....

Just what I said I didn't want to see...

Silly they couldn't settle on 8x8. All that drama over nothing substantial.

 

[Crystal]

Certainly made things interesting for us neutrals watching on.

 

[MC74]

Certainly made things interesting for us neutrals watching on.

 

[MC74]

Well shit, Igor Shesterkin was reportedly offered 8 years at $11M AAV by the NYR and he turned them down.

 

[Crystal]

Come on, Igor, sign! We've had enough goalie drama.

(also please don't let this set a trend for Oettinger...)

 

[Jon]

Come on, Igor, sign! We've had enough goalie drama.

(also please don't let this set a trend for Oettinger...)

I feel your pain.

 

[MC74]

Come on, Igor, sign! We've had enough goalie drama.

(also please don't let this set a trend for Oettinger...)

If the Rangers give him that much or more, you know damn well Otter's gonna be making around $10M.

 

[Crystal]

If the Rangers give him that much or more, you know damn well Otter's gonna be making around $10M.

Sadly, I agree. Otter's worth it, but...ugh...

 

[MC74]

Sadly, I agree. Otter's worth it, but...ugh...

Add in the fact guys like Matthews & Draisaitl are being paid $13M & $14M respectively. Think about what McDavid's gonna make next.

 

[Crystal]

Add in the fact guys like Matthews & Draisaitl are being paid $13M & $14M respectively. Think about what McDavid's gonna make next.

First ever $20m contract?

 

[MC74]

First ever $20m contract?

I fucking hope not. More or less expecting $15M minimum.

 

[Jon]

First ever $20m contract?

Did the NHL change the max contract? I know way back when they went to a hard cap it was like 10m, and Ovechkin was the first to get it. It's obviouslyly not the case anymore, but I dunno if there is still a cap

 

[Crystal]

I fucking hope not. More or less expecting $15M minimum.

Yeah, $15 sounds right for him, BUT...CBA constantly pushing upwards...

Did the NHL change the max contract? I know way back when they went to a hard cap it was like 10m, and Ovechkin was the first to get it. It's obviouslyly not the case anymore, but I dunno if there is still a cap

Yeah, $10 has been out for a while now, sadly.

 

[MC74]

Yeah, $15 sounds right for him, BUT...CBA constantly pushing upwards...

I'd pay McDavid $15.

 

[Crystal]

I'd pay McDavid $15.

You know what I mean, lol

 

[Jon]

So apparently they moved to a sliding scale. max is 20% of the cap. It's at 88m this year, so max contract would be 17.6. McDavid can and probably should be the only player getting that.

 

[MC74]

You know what I mean, lol

 

[Crystal]

So apparently they moved to a sliding scale. max is 20% of the cap. It's at 88m this year, so max contract would be 17.6. McDavid can and probably should be the only player getting that.

Yeah, that's more like, and totally agreed, he's the lone person that would ever command such a salary. Bedard in a few years, MAYBE, but that's it.

 

[MC74]

Never change, Crystal. Never change.

 

[Crystal]

Never change, Crystal. Never change.

I mean I kind of changed radically once already, lol

 

[MC74]

I mean I kind of changed radically once already, lol

For the better, if you ask me.

 

[canadaguy]

So apparently they moved to a sliding scale. max is 20% of the cap. It's at 88m this year, so max contract would be 17.6. McDavid can and probably should be the only player getting that.

I wonder if they could word the contract to always pay at 20%? So if the cap goes up during the contract, he can still max it out.


Flames gonna live up to their name and be a fucking dumpster fire, so I'm just gonna sit here fantasy booking Olympic rosters (Canada has waaaay too many elite centers)

 

[Jon]

I wonder if they could word the contract to always pay at 20%? So if the cap goes up during the contract, he can still max it out.

I'm sure they CAN, but they never will (the owners I mean). It doesn't make business sense to do that.

 

[canadaguy]

I'm sure they CAN, but they never will (the owners I mean). It doesn't make business sense to do that.

Yeah but we've definitely seen the owners stab themselves in the dick to take advantage of cap circumvention, so if there's some sort of loophole they will find out

 

[Jon]

Yeah but we've definitely seen the owners stab themselves in the dick to take advantage of cap circumvention, so if there's some sort of loophole they will find out

But this would artificially lower your available cap each season. It's a player friendly move UNLESS you predict the cap to lower each season. Which it doesn't.