Zell Wolf The Cemetary

[TD]

If I did this I'd probably give options, I don't want people to leave cause it's a shitty role list you know?

That's a fair point too, I get it.

There are certain roles I'd just feel so bleh at getting, like instigator recruit or getting cupid'd.

 

[Christina]

That's a fair point too, I get it.

There are certain roles I'd just feel so bleh at getting, like instigator recruit or getting cupid'd.

I can't handle cupid again. I think I would have a panic attack.

 

[shortkut]

What?

Sacrificing the trickster to trick the town into thinking someone was tricksters, meaning kill trickster wolf without using ability. It shows the town one of the wolf roles instead of leaving them guessing what the role is. “Do we protect this person? But if they berserk we lose two people!” So doing that would reduce your wolf numbers unnecessarily and remove some hesitation the town may have when using their roles

 

[Christina]

Sacrificing the trickster to trick the town into thinking someone was tricksters, meaning kill trickster wolf without using ability. It shows the town one of the wolf roles instead of leaving them guessing what the role is. “Do we protect this person? But if they berserk we lose two people!” So doing that would reduce your wolf numbers unnecessarily and remove some hesitation the town may have when using their roles

Also, it's mean.

 

[Zell 17]

If you are gonna sacrifice the trickster wolf, the better way to do it just by having them come out hard selling a villager as evil.

"TD is EVIL, I'm Aura seer". If TD gets killed, you trick them. If you get killed, you achieved your "sacrifice" and the entire time the village in the back of their head will think "Hey, maybe they really were aura seer and TD WAS Evil".

 

[Zell 17]

Obviously Christina couldn't do that when coupled

 

[TD]

If you are gonna sacrifice the trickster wolf, the better way to do it just by having them come out hard selling a villager as evil.

"TD is EVIL, I'm Aura seer". If TD gets killed, you trick them. If you get killed, you achieved your "sacrifice" and the entire time the village in the back of their head will think "Hey, maybe they really were aura seer and TD WAS Evil".

This elaborates a lot more on what I was trying to get at thank you.

I didn't really fully flush out the idea when I said it.

 

[TD]

Sacrificing the trickster to trick the town into thinking someone was tricksters, meaning kill trickster wolf without using ability. It shows the town one of the wolf roles instead of leaving them guessing what the role is. “Do we protect this person? But if they berserk we lose two people!” So doing that would reduce your wolf numbers unnecessarily and remove some hesitation the town may have when using their roles

This is also a fancy way of saying we made a mistake taking out the aura seer and using the trickster on him.

 

[TD]

(which for the record I thought about afterwards and it was a mistake, hell, shadowing the aura seer was a mistake)

 

[Christina]

This is also a fancy way of saying we made a mistake taking out the aura seer and using the trickster on him.

I had a whole story about how I was hiding until after the shadow because I didn't want to be a shadow target. Plus the people I seered had come up unknown which could have been the killer. I am still a little salty about not being able try and pull that off.

 

[Christina]

(which for the record I thought about afterwards and it was a mistake, hell, shadowing the aura seer was a mistake)

We wanted that shadow gone so bad. Also people have this driving need to use their abilities and as quickly as they have an excuse too.

 

[TD]

I had a whole story about how I was hiding until after the shadow because I didn't want to be a shadow target. Plus the people I seered had come up unknown which could have been the killer. I am still a little salty about not being able try and pull that off.

I've learned to never plan too far ahead in these games, because then you just get disappointed that you didn't get to execute our big plan.

 

[TD]

We wanted that shadow gone so bad. Also people have this driving need to use their abilities and as quickly as they have an excuse too.

Oh I think using the shadow was the right idea. In retrospect though I've come to the conclusion that kill roles are the biggest wolf threat and Jawneh should've been the target.

 

[TD]

Oh and also we messed up with the Flower Child. But, I also thought they stopped ANY lynch.

 

[shortkut]

Oh I think using the shadow was the right idea. In retrospect though I've come to the conclusion that kill roles are the biggest wolf threat and Jawneh should've been the target.

We didn’t know Jawneh’s role at the time

Oh and also we messed up with the Flower Child. But, I also thought they stopped ANY lynch.

We wanted the FC gone so we could get our shadow kill. We expected the FC to protect our shadow target and then we waste it

 

[TD]

We didn’t know Jawneh’s role at the time

But he was the only 100% verified townie and he hinted like 30 times in Day 1 that he could kill.

We wanted the FC gone so we could get our shadow kill. We expected the FC to protect our shadow target and then we waste it

But the FC would've had to guess who we were going after which at that point is a 1 in 13 chance.

My biggest takeaway from that game was to slow down, think it through, and read the roles way more carefully.

Another wiff was Alu thinking he had unlimited uses.

In hindsight as a group, we made mistakes.

 

[TD]

@shortkut
Did you just give me another badge!?
If so, I love you even more again.

 

[shortkut]

hindsight as a group, we made mistakes.

Our only mistake was forgetting vash had his own win conditions

 

[shortkut]

@shortkut
Did you just give me another badge!?
If so, I love you even more again.

I did

 

[TD]

Our only mistake was forgetting vash had his own win conditions

That was indeed another mistake.

Which leads me to my own takeaway again, slow down and think/talk it through.

I feel like we were so close to the first Zell Wolf win.

 

[TD]

The wolves could be running a plan where they seered Raine, saw avenger, know Ben is bad, and so wolf Vash lies to get us to do this, and Ben is bad so they can actually kill 2 when they'd usually kill 0 on day 1. But then Vash is outed as a wolf and it's a snowball from there, I think.

See - there's no way this is what actually happened but I so wish plays like this WOULD happen.

 

[shortkut]

That was indeed another mistake.

Which leads me to my own takeaway again, slow down and think/talk it through.

I feel like we were so close to the first Zell Wolf win.

We were one Jawneh action away from clinching at night, which should have been our clue to remember the Cupid. Had we killed cole, vash and Christina wouldn’t have the voting block and they would have had to decide which of them got to win. Probably the wolves if there was no path to victory as Cupid couple. Instead we went for Ben who was protected and you know what happened next

 

[shortkut]

See - there's no way this is what actually happened but I so wish plays like this WOULD happen.

Now I really need to read the thread

 

[TD]

We were one Jawneh action away from clinching at night, which should have been our clue to remember the Cupid. Had we killed cole, vash and Christina wouldn’t have the voting block and they would have had to decide which of them got to win. Probably the wolves if there was no path to victory as Cupid couple. Instead we went for Ben who was protected and you know what happened next

Yeah - I don't know about you but I think I got tunnel vision just trying to go for the win.

 

[shortkut]

Yeah - I don't know about you but I think I got tunnel vision just trying to go for the win.

As did I. I started saying vash was mvp for the wolves, then he betrayed my trust

 

[TD]

Did FR just hint he threw a rock at Raine?

RIP their shadow vote if she's a wolf.
If she's not a wolf and is avenger - LOL.

 

[Zell 17]

That was indeed another mistake.

Which leads me to my own takeaway again, slow down and think/talk it through.

I feel like we were so close to the first Zell Wolf win.

You guys were. And Benzine and co. were the game before.

This one is gonna be a bloodbath though.

 

[TD]

I might have talked myself into giving it a whirl again next game.

 

[TD]

HOW is nobody picking up on FR!?

This is what leaves me convinced that most don't read the Dictionary.

 

[Mark]

HOW is nobody picking up on FR!?

This is what leaves me convinced that most don't read the Dictionary.

I’ve learned more about this game from your shitposting this game than I have just wandering around the last several threads and observing multiple people’s plays.

 

[TD]

 

[shortkut]

Wait, what role throws rocks?

Also, when did vash get revealed?

I read the thread and I missed these answers

 

[TD]

Wait, what role throws rocks?

Bully.

New role.

Also, when did vash get revealed?

Vash claimed he was the Spirit Seer in I want to say the first dozen posts.

 

[TD]

Bully
Aura: Unknown
During the day, can hit a player with a rock and give them a concussion. Selection of a player to concuss is made via daytime PM. A player who is concussed will not be able to use any abilities during that day or the subsequent night. If the shadow wolf is in effect, a concussed player cannot vote. If a player is hit with a rock a second time, they will be killed. If the bully kills a player, the bully's role will be revealed to the entire village. The bully can only shoot a rock once per day. The bully gets 4 rocks in total.

 

[shortkut]

Bully.

New role.

Stop making me read new roles! I don’t even read the old ones. I wasn’t lying in the last game about not reading the roles

 

[shortkut]

Bully
Aura: Unknown
During the day, can hit a player with a rock and give them a concussion. Selection of a player to concuss is made via daytime PM. A player who is concussed will not be able to use any abilities during that day or the subsequent night. If the shadow wolf is in effect, a concussed player cannot vote. If a player is hit with a rock a second time, they will be killed. If the bully kills a player, the bully's role will be revealed to the entire village. The bully can only shoot a rock once per day. The bully gets 4 rocks in total.

Then it’s clear FR used bully ability on raine this morning and the town is stupid for not figuring it out

 

[TD]

Then it’s clear FR used bully ability on raine this morning and the town is stupid for not figuring it out

I mean it did take them like 70 posts of me typing in mostly caps to figure out I was claiming Loudmouth that one time so...

 

[TD]

Raine is a good player.

Really loved playing with her as a wolf that one time.

 

[TD]

FR now even changed the line under his name to:
"For those who like to rock, we salute you!"

I can't.

 

[shortkut]

He could also be lying, but he seems desperate for someone to pick up what he’s putting down. I don’t think he’d be that persistant if it was a false role claim

 

[TD]

He could also be lying, but he seems desperate for someone to pick up what he’s putting down. I don’t think he’d be that persistant if it was a false role claim

I don't think FR is bold enough to lie about a role claim like that so persistently.

 

[shortkut]

I don't think FR is bold enough to lie about a role claim like that so persistently.

Exactly

 

[Zell 17]

He could also be lying, but he seems desperate for someone to pick up what he’s putting down. I don’t think he’d be that persistant if it was a false role claim

Also lying about being the bully is a good way to catch a rock in your face

 

[TD]

Especially without being in the random pool.

 

[TD]

YOU WILL NOT OUT SHITPOST US.

 

[TD]

Who's gonna tell Ben that the Shaman affects aura and not if the Spirit Seer sees red?

 

[TD]

Poor Raine, doomed to the same fate as I when I was a Shadow Wolf.

Also Raposuh is super sus.

 

[TD]

I wonder if the Instigator is attempting a hostile takeover of the wolf kills.

 

[TD]

If let's say hypothetically someone like Vash or Kelly were the Instigator and the Doctor was the townie recruit, you'd effectively be invincible because "nobody lies" and the town wouldn't lynch you, as long as you keep feeding wolves and then misdirect from the one wolf that's with the Instigator.

 

[Zell 17]

More fun strategies: Faking red lady can be kinda fun. Seers almost never check you because they expect you to die and don’t want to “waste” a check. Good role for a fool.