Zell Wolf The Cemetary

[Zell 17]

It would be hilarious if the Conjuror died while taking on kut's role, is shown as a Spirit Seer, and Vash catches heat.

That could happen from my understanding, right?

Does it also affect seer reads or just in Death?

Would affect seer reads as well, the Conjuror current “IS” spirit seer for all intents

 

[TD]

That's amazing.

The Conjuror sounds like fun but could also cause town chaos with an inconvenient death.

It says any player - can they take wolf abilities too?

 

[Zell 17]

No I guess so need to update it. Villager abilities. Would be kinda broken if they could join wolf chat lol

 

[TD]

lol I was more curious of wolf abilities than chat itself, but yeah I think an update would add clarity.

It'd be fun but risky (might get read as evil), but I get that it's not the intent.

 

[Zell 17]

Trying to think what wolf abilities would even be useful. I guess just guardian wolf right? Maybe avenger

 

[TD]

At a glance, Avenger, Guardian, Nightmare (if not used up), Seer, Sorcerer.

 

[TD]

Hypothetically what happens in this scenario:

- Shadow happens
- Leading vote getter gets protected by Guardian
- Judge passes guilty sentence on that same player

 

[shortkut]

You’re making me want to read the game thread but I don’t have the time right now!

 

[TD]

Just catch up when you have time and we can talk about it!

There's some fun shadow action going on again and Raine looks guilty but may or may not be guilty.

 

[Christina]

If the Alpha Wolf is in the group, the Alpha Wolf may send private, one-way messages to the team during this period by PMing me.

Oh if they have an Alpha wolf.

 

[TD]

 

[TD]

I hope they have an Alpha and some crazy shit happens.

 

[Zell 17]

Hypothetically what happens in this scenario:

- Shadow happens
- Leading vote getter gets protected by Guardian
- Judge passes guilty sentence on that same player

The village voted to lynch, judge doesn’t convict.

But if the village knew the guardian was last they could use the judge to kill the gww in “one hit” by not lynching.

 

[Zell 17]

If the Alpha Wolf is in the group, the Alpha Wolf may send private, one-way messages to the team during this period by PMing me.

Oh if they have an Alpha wolf.

Maybe I’ll change this in the future so that the Alpha can talk on wolf chat but nobody else

 

[Christina]

So much work for you yeah.

 

[TD]

Maybe I’ll change this in the future so that the Alpha can talk on wolf chat but nobody else

I like that idea.

 

[TD]

Now they're trying to crack the code on the Shadow plan.

Wonder if the wolf with the Instigator would get them in on it.

That's potentially 10 votes.

 

[TD]

And if Raine is innocent...
Her vote becomes a throwaway.

 

[Christina]

Day 1 Benzine is apparently just always going to feel sus to me. Now he's feeling sus in a different way.

 

[Christina]

Maybe he's the Bully trying to get somebody else to do his homework.

 

[TD]

Maybe he's the Bully trying to get somebody else to do his homework.

I really think FR is the Bully.

 

[Christina]

I really think FR is the Bully.

The thought of that scares me. But I'm also excited for that chaos. The Lanisters send their regards.

 

[TD]

But then my eyes glanced over to his profile picture.

The Rock. Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. ROCKy Maivia.

I wonder what role likes rocks.

It's already buried but this is why I think that.

 

[TD]

Speaking of buried..

Who's getting buried today and joining us?

 

[TD]

Odds point to Raine.

If there's an Alpha - my gut says Kelly.

 

[Christina]

I think Vash has a good chance at it.

 

[shortkut]

I think Vash has a good chance at it.

Does that mean the town has betrayed him?

 

[shortkut]

(Trying to be funny, if too soon tell me)

 

[Christina]

That's right Kelly is claiming aura seer. That's a big one. Spirit seer has high potential because they can clear 2 people with a green.

 

[Christina]

(Trying to be funny, if too soon tell me)

You all good.

 

[TD]

Even if Vash is telling the truth, it's better to leave him around as random #2.

Then again they already killed #1 and it's just a question of did they know kut was the Spirit Seer?

 

[TD]

It's of my opinion that wolves will always benefit from killing guaranteed roles first. More places to hide.

Unless they find a super threatening random.

 

[shortkut]

It's of my opinion that wolves will always benefit from killing guaranteed roles first. More places to hide.

Unless they find a super threatening random.

That’s why there need to be people without roles to allow hiding places

 

[TD]

Well there is one farmer.

But I know what you mean.

 

[shortkut]

That’s why there need to be people without roles to allow hiding places

Through process of elimination you can find all the roles and with a lot of seers, you get found out. Wolves and RK and only really claim RV roles, but if the real RV can prove themselves, then the wolf is outed immediately

 

[Zell 17]

That’s why there need to be people without roles to allow hiding places

Eh I've laid out the blueprint for easy wolf wins like 5 times now and nobody has even tried it so .

Once again we have 4 completely unclaimed wolves and 80% (8/11) of the village has made a claim.

I couldn't imagine ever killing a random villager day 1.

 

[TD]

Through process of elimination you can find all the roles and with a lot of seers, you get found out. Wolves and RK and only really claim RV roles, but if the real RV can prove themselves, then the wolf is outed immediately

This is why as a wolf I think it's best to claim a guaranteed role that's also on the random list.

 

[TD]

It's also why I claimed Doctor even when we knew Benzine was the Doctor but hadn't claimed it.

Without the Bell Ringer, I'm a lot more curious how it would go.

 

[Zell 17]

Anything unprovable is a good claim. Every role in this setup except Bully and Judge (and Conjuror with Bully dead) is unprovable.

Vash is the SECOND RANDOM VILLAGER Spirit Seer for fuck's sake and look how fast everyone believed him.

 

[TD]

Conjuror is one of the top roles I'd like to play. I haven't gotten any roles I really wanted but I've also only played 3 of these.

 

[TD]

I definitely know my gameplan whenever I step back in though.

 

[Zell 17]

Dude I'm just trying to imagine the chaos if anyone ever did fake spirit seer.

"These two people are red"
"Okay, let's kill one of them".
"Oops, they were a villager"
"Oh okay, let's kill the other one then!"

Like the concept of fake information is totally foreign here.

 

[Christina]

I was so freaking shocked at how TD turned around a lynching for as long as he did with his role claim. Confused the hell out of Local. I had to remind myself so many times that last game that not everybody knows all the info you know.

 

[TD]

Dude I'm just trying to imagine the chaos if anyone ever did fake spirit seer.

"These two people are red"
"Okay, let's kill one of them".
"Oops, they were a villager"
"Oh okay, let's kill the other one then!"

Like the concept of fake information is totally foreign here.

Honestly it's where I've gone so wrong and end up getting suspicion on me with every iteration, even as a town member.

I play these games with the assumption that everyone is lying, not telling the truth. It's backfired a lot.

 

[Christina]

Man. I'm still sad I didn't get a chance to come in and play fake seer the last game because of Smacktard claiming it. Would have been too sus.

 

[TD]

I was so freaking shocked at how TD turned around a lynching for as long as he did with his role claim. Confused the hell out of Local. I had to remind myself so many times that last game that not everybody knows all the info you know.

This is why I stand by never give up and never roll over. You don't need everyone to believe you but if one or two town members believe you, it could shake things up.

 

[Christina]

Honestly it's where I've gone so wrong and end up getting suspicion on me with every iteration, even as a town member.

I play these games with the assumption that everyone is lying, not telling the truth. It's backfired a lot.

Yeah, people are too nice. They need to lie more.

 

[Zell 17]

Which is funny because I think most people have played it that way. But it's a very straightforward group. There have been VERY few actual lies in any of these games, and almost all of them have come when someone was under pressure.

Lying when you are under pressure is too late. You gotta step off the ledge and get out there with your lies before anyone even thinks you are suspicious.

 

[Zell 17]

Man I'm gonna have to delete half this shit if Benzine ever actually comes in here alive

 

[Christina]

If I was a wolf again I think spending more time coordinating who's claiming what on that night 1.