Ben Wolf Paranormal Post-Mortem

[Kat]

I'm pretty good at disassociating. When I had to have some teeth pulled they were all "raise your hand if you need a break" and I didn't move until they were done.

I'm envious. They give me Xanax for dental stuff and I'm still in tears getting my teeth cleaned, lol.

I'm sure getting a vasectomy isn't pleasant. I think when people say it's minimally invasive, they mean compared to the options women have.

Oh definitely. Onus of responsibility shouldn't be on y'all.

Plus no one wants to keep getting poked by an IUD string.

They trimmed my IUD strings so I can't feel them, but said it mean they'll have to do "some extra stuff" when it's time to take it out. No further details were given but I'm sure future me is going to be mad about that decision at some point.

I'll tell ya, back when I got mine, they asked a lot of personal questions about having kids and stuff and they were like "are you sure? Are you sure? Are you sure?" And then finally the doctor was like "okay so you've had one kid and you're done, eh?" And I had hit 40 and have three other kids that aren't biologically mine, so finally they went ahead with it.

So messed up like I had to talk them into giving me "permission" to take the procedure.

I imagine what women go through must be ten times worse.

I wanted an IUD when I was a teenager and they refused because there was a small chance it'd make me infertile. They didn't ask if I was okay with that, just flat out refused, and it's very unlikely to even happen. I went back after the supreme court overturned Roe v Wade and insisted on something that would keep me safe from getting pregnant, and they finally agreed to an IUD, but still steered me away from sterilization. Hopefully it'll still be an option when I need a new one.

 

[Christina]

I wanted an IUD when I was a teenager and they refused because there was a small chance it'd make me infertile. They didn't ask if I was okay with that, just flat out refused, and it's very unlikely to even happen. I went back after the supreme court overturned Roe v Wade and insisted on something that would keep me safe from getting pregnant, and they finally agreed to an IUD, but still steered me away from sterilization. Hopefully it'll still be an option when I need a new one.

I get raged about not letting women choose sterilization. This fear that you'll change your mind later and regret it is insane to me. Let people get all sad about it later. It's their choice and if it ends up being a fuck up choice oh well. It's not the end of humanity. It's like their afraid all women would make that choice if it was an easier option. Just tell them the pros and cons of it and move on. Not your body. Not your problem.

 

[Ants!]

Also it's like...there are billions of people on the planet who will still be able to have babies after I do this. Why do you need me?

 

[Ben]

Also it's like...there are billions of people on the planet who will still be able to have babies after I do this. Why do you need me?

Dear boy, you don't understand.

If any woman was able to exercise her own autonomy at her own whim, certainly a large number would opt to not have children in this current tumultuous time.

More women, and by extension more men, would be child free. They would have more disposable income, more time to do things for themselves, more time to think.

And thinking people are dangerous, sir. They aren't as easy to deceive and lead along with a carrot on a string. They might question things, like religion, or government. They might educate themselves. They might rebel.

Better to make it incredibly difficult to access such life-changing choices. Or, remove their choice entirely!

 

[VashTheStampede]

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...yeah we're definitely going to need an alternative name for that in America.

Nah it's Trump Country now, we'll use it

 

[Kat]

I get raged about not letting women choose sterilization. This fear that you'll change your mind later and regret it is insane to me. Let people get all sad about it later. It's their choice and if it ends up being a fuck up choice oh well. It's not the end of humanity. It's like their afraid all women would make that choice if it was an easier option. Just tell them the pros and cons of it and move on. Not your body. Not your problem.

Definitely. To me, the most enraging part is they don't even consider how an unwanted pregnancy can fuck up or even end your life. I think the chance of becoming pregnant on hormonal birth control is higher than becoming infertile from an IUD (especially if you are not good at taking the pill at the same exact time every day, which I never was).

Consider if a hundred million women are on hormonal birth control, even if they use it perfectly (which a bunch won't), a million of them per year will get pregnant anyway. That is so many! And if it's a 1% chance per year, then what are the overall odds when a woman relies on it for decades...? It always felt a bit like Russian roulette to me.

Maybe some people are sure they want kids and they're fine with the risk of getting one before they're completely ready, but I agree with you, that's the patient's choice to make. Inform them of the risks of each option and let them decide which is the best for their situation. Any choice there could lead to regrets.

 

[Ants!]

Another thing is all of these people that are trying to make us have babies would also tell somebody to stop having kids they can't afford when they need government assistance later.

 

[Ben]

Another thing is all of these people that are trying to make us have babies would also tell somebody to stop having kids they can't afford when they need government assistance later.

That would, again, be helping them not live in such poverty. They aren't incentivized to do that.

Hungry uneducated people are easier to turn against their fellow humans, and stop them from paying attention to what shady shit you're doing. Desperate people commit crimes to survive, and that's more slave bodies for your prison labor BBQ sauce machine.

 

[Christina]

If you don't watch Adam Conover, he is great.


Fragile masculinity

 

[Ants!]

I miss his show, Adam Ruins Everything.

 

[Christina]

That's weird. That was supposed to post in a different thread. I messed that up some how. I wasn't even looking in this thread at that time.

 

[dimmerwit]

It's fine, this thread will morph into whatever you want it to be.

 

[Ben]

It's fine, this thread will morph into whatever you want it to be.

Discussion of any kind helps boost PPT in the algorithm. Don't forget to like and subscribe.

 

[Ants!]

If you don't watch Adam Conover, he is great.


Fragile masculinity

That's very good! And also very true. I may not have a lot going for me, I didn't lose my virginity until 28 and I've only slept with 4 women by 42. I've never had a job that pays more than $35,000 a year. I'm out of shape, and I'm starting to think I may be a little bi-curious lately.

Yet if I can say one thing good about myself, it is that I am completely and utterly secure in who I am and don't feel emasculated at all. There have been a few incidents where people have tried to make me feel that way with their words, but it rolls off and I just laugh and end up feeling a little sorry for them, because I know they are stuck in that losing game and are projecting and trying to use me as a prop for themselves.

Two resources I really like:

One is a fun Facebook group, called "Fellas, is it gay to *shuffles deck*", where they share the most ridiculous examples of this that they found. Things like carrying bottled water, bringing a lunch to work, having sheets on your bed, liking cats, ordering desert at a restaurant, the dumbest things make you gay. One dude was asking if his dad was gay because his dad kept saying "I love you" to him. Sometimes it's funny, a lot of times it's sad.

The other resource is a book I was asked to read for work recently, called "Season of Life" by Jeffrey Marx. He's a writer that got to hang out with the Colts NFL team as a kid in the 70's and idolized the players. Because close with one of them who's brother got sick and died young. He reconnected with all the colts decades later when they were about to tear down their old stadium. This player Joe (lol yeah my name) ended up becoming a preacher, set up charities to help poor and destitute people and people who are sick, and now coaches a high school football team in his old age. So he goes to visit and watches how they coach the boys for that whole season.

They teach them to love each other, and to love the other team, and to "be a man for others". It's remarkable.

He goes and gives speeches to other coaches, telling them about this, and sharing the story if his own abusive father. There's a lot more in there, but I think I spilled enough of it, go read it

 

[Ants!]

It's fine, this thread will morph into whatever you want it to be.

Add to my former list:

Control of your own body
Elon musk, Zuccerberg, and male fragility

 

[Ben]

Thatts very good! And also very true. I may not have a lot going for me, I didn't lose my virginity until 28 and I've only slept with 4 women by 42. I've never had a job that pays more than $35,000 a year. I'm out of shape, and I'm starting to think I may be a little bi-curious lately.

I forget how many of you dudes are a bit older than me. It felt way more obvious when it was my 13 year old self talking to 18 year olds, or people in their 20s.

I'm loathed to say it, but I guess I can relate to how constantly getting trolled can change a person. There used to be this group of teenagers who thought it hilarious to constantly call me "BenGay" and otherwise just be abrasive twats.

It kind of does innately shove you towards hating them in return, seething, wanting to do something to "get back" at them, etc. I definitely ended up aligning with other people who both weren't attacking me constantly, but also were often at odds with the same trolls.

I can't really blame my promiscuity on trying to project a 'show of masculinity'. It's not like you get a punch card for every person you sleep with, that you can display on a lanyard to prove your accomplishment. I'd say it was more an internal feeling of being useless at everything else, so I'd put myself in situations where I could personally feel accomplished regularly.

But then you just inadvertently foster the image of being a slut, which is hard to do as a guy.

Still, better to be a slut than a Nazi.

 

[Ants!]

I'm loathed to say it, but I guess I can relate to how constantly getting trolled can change a person.

True. I actually changed for the better, when I got trolled for being shitty it caused me to reflect on my being shitty. Twenty years ago I was posting a lot of right wing Republican religious bullshit, because of where I come from and my indoctrination/programming.

I know that's not the same for a lot of people though, and I'm not going to hold it against them if they felt alone in that and their path took them in a different direction. I mean, I'll still hold them accountable for how they act TODAY, because the window to change is always there if they can wrestle their hurt ego down enough to go through it.

There used to be this group of teenagers who thought it hilarious to constantly call me "BenGay" and otherwise just be abrasive twats.

Lol I remember that. Although I wasn't a part of that, I was still trying to get "in" with that cliquish crowd. So sorry for that.

I must say though, I'm often reflecting on how much everyone here has grown since those days, and I admire you all for it. Everyone seems so much more mature. You and FR are now among some of my favorite members. Coleman is more chill and accepting and friendly. Mark surprises me with his capacity for empathy. So many of you guys have gained a great deal more of my respect since we all came back to GWF and I've learned more about the people you've become.

There are maybe two exceptions to that, and I won't name names, but they've since voluntarily left us which I think is probably for the best. So this community is awesome.

 

[Kat]

One is a fun Facebook group, called "Fellas, is it gay to *shuffles deck*", where they share the most ridiculous examples of this that they found. Things like carrying bottled water, bringing a lunch to work, having sheets on your bed, liking cats, ordering desert at a restaurant, the dumbest things make you gay. One dude was asking if his dad was gay because his dad kept saying "I love you" to him. Sometimes it's funny, a lot of times it's sad

If all that stuff is only for gay people, then that's a sad state of affairs for straights! What a stressful life it must be to worry about that kind of thing. I wouldn't mind some more context about the sheets on the bed one though. What's the alternative there??

 

[Christina]

If all that stuff is only for gay people, then that's a sad state of affairs for straights! What a stressful life it must be to worry about that kind of thing. I wouldn't mind some more context about the sheets on the bed one though. What's the alternative there??

Oh have you not run into the how men "decorate" thing.

Man is efficient. Man no need pictures on wall. Just comfy chair in front of TV to play shooting video games. Man need only 1 plate and 1 fork to eat on. Man does not need sheets on bed just blank to keep warm bed already cloth, why Man put more cloth on it. Man do need pretty and fast sports car or giant truck that has wheels that are too big and so big man can not see in front of it like driving a tank.

 

[Kat]

Well, I hope they are enjoying hand washing their dishes after every meal and never getting laid on their nasty beds. (Who am I kidding? They probably aren't really washing the dishes.)

 

[Ben]

Well, I hope they are enjoying hand washing their dishes after every meal and never getting laid on their nasty beds. (Who am I kidding? They probably aren't really washing the dishes.)

I cannot recall where I saw it, but there was a text-message chain of someone trying to work out why a male friend of theirs was throwing away dishes instead of washing them. Like, ceramic dishes. They'd just throw it all in the trash instead of clean them. The excuse being that people kept buying them new plates so why not?

Men are dumb. Even the smart ones, dumb.

I mean, I'm not saying I haven't left Tupperware in the back of the fridge for months and resolved to just throw the entire thing out, but do you know how hard it is to get a refrigerator into a garbage bag?

 

[Christina]

I cannot recall where I saw it, but there was a text-message chain of someone trying to work out why a male friend of theirs was throwing away dishes instead of washing them. Like, ceramic dishes. They'd just throw it all in the trash instead of clean them. The excuse being that people kept buying them new plates so why not?

Men are dumb. Even the smart ones, dumb.

I mean, I'm not saying I haven't left Tupperware in the back of the fridge for months and resolved to just throw the entire thing out, but do you know how hard it is to get a refrigerator into a garbage bag?

The tubberware thing is a normal thing I think everybody has done at some point. It is what made me stop and think why in the world am I buying plastic to put my leftovers in. I hate washing plastic stuff. Stuff seeps into and never comes out. It leaches hormones disrupting crap and micropastics into your food. It takes forever to dry. So I started buying either metal or glass stuff and it's so much better and I never will go back. The metal and glass is not even more expensive these days. The only thing plastic is better at, is just not breaking as easily which for me personally is not worth it.

 

[Ants!]

If all that stuff is only for gay people, then that's a sad state of affairs for straights! What a stressful life it must be to worry about that kind of thing. I wouldn't mind some more context about the sheets on the bed one though. What's the alternative there??

A common one I've seen circulated is this picture of this remarkably attractive woman with six pack abs and biceps flexing, and a comment under it saying "if you find this hot then you're gay, sorry I don't make the rules!"

It's like bruh. It's gay to be straight now?

It goes so much further though. Like I found out there was this trend (might possibly have been a page on reddit or something) of women complaining about their husbands or boyfriends who refuse to wipe themselves after they shit. The women go online asking if this is normal and for advice on how to convince their husbands to wipe themselves. One husband got in his wifes face and yelled that nothing is supposed to touch him down there. They have to deal with huge, disgusting skidmarks on their underwear. Things like that.

How insecure can these guys possibly get that they're afraid of touching that area with toilet paper in the privacy and solitude of their own home bathroom?

 

[Kat]

Wooow. Never have I ever been so glad to be gay! How did they even get wives to begin with?? Nasty.

 

[Ben]

A common one I've seen circulated is this picture of this remarkably attractive woman with six pack abs and biceps flexing, and a comment under it saying "if you find this hot then you're gay, sorry I don't make the rules!"

It's like bruh. It's gay to be straight now?

It goes so much further though. Like I found out there was this trend (might possibly have been a page on reddit or something) of women complaining about their husbands or boyfriends who refuse to wipe themselves after they shit. The women go online asking if this is normal and for advice on how to convince their husbands to wipe themselves. One husband got in his wifes face and yelled that nothing is supposed to touch him down there. They have to deal with huge, disgusting skidmarks on their underwear. Things like that.

How insecure can these guys possibly get that they're afraid of touching that area with toilet paper in the privacy and solitude of their own home bathroom?

Playing devil's advocate for a moment, honestly both of those things could stem from a history of being subjected to sexual abuse, which certainly affects boys as well.

A strong, violent opposition from a man to any insinuation that they could be gay, could be because they feel shame over having been abused and took this stance as a way of saying "I didn't want this to happen to me, you're the monster, I don't like this." Likewise for the second point, if they've adopted enough of a aversion to touching themselves in any way, it might imply a history of abuse and an attempt to compensate and/or avoid remembering the past. Hell, extrapolating on that, being covered in shit is probably a defense mechanism to try to get an abuser to leave you alone, and they just never adjusted even after escaping that situation.

Not necessarily the case, but people can get real fucked up by being victims of such abuse.

 

[Ants!]

Playing devil's advocate for a moment, honestly both of those things could stem from a history of being subjected to sexual abuse, which certainly affects boys as well.

I thought that as well. Why I think it's a little sad.

 

[Kat]

Playing devil's advocate for a moment, honestly both of those things could stem from a history of being subjected to sexual abuse, which certainly affects boys as well.

Yeah, I wondered about that when he said "nothing touches me there". Still though, get some therapy, you can't go your whole life covered in shit.

 

[Kat]

Soo who is going to run the next game? We need a redo after the evils got killed so quick.

 

[Ants!]

 

[Fool's Requiem]

seven days

 

[Ben]

If no one steps up, I could do another. Not another PPT game, but I'd do regular wolf

 

[Ben]

I guess I probably shouldn't force creepy shit on people. It's less fun when @Tommy Boy isn't playing to scare anyway.

@Tommy Boy

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[Ants!]

Tommy gunna show up on Day 2 like "sorry guyz i forgot to do game stuffs"

 

[Ben]

Tommy gunna show up on Day 2 like "sorry guyz i forgot to do game stuffs"

Day 2 is on-top-of-clothes stuff.

 

[Cole]

Coleman is more chill and accepting and friendly.

no the fuck i am not you stupid piece of shit. and its kinda bullshit for you ti even make that accusation.

 

[Ants!]

I just got a little hard.

 

[Cole]

@Crystal @Mark @Ben I think I'd like to turn off reactions forum wide. I'm kinda sick of them being used ironically per my last post.

 

[Mark]

@Crystal @Mark @Ben I think I'd like to turn off reactions forum wide. I'm kinda sick of them being used ironically per my last post.

 

[Mark]

The tubberware thing is a normal thing I think everybody has done at some point. It is what made me stop and think why in the world am I buying plastic to put my leftovers in. I hate washing plastic stuff. Stuff seeps into and never comes out. It leaches hormones disrupting crap and micropastics into your food. It takes forever to dry. So I started buying either metal or glass stuff and it's so much better and I never will go back. The metal and glass is not even more expensive these days. The only thing plastic is better at, is just not breaking as easily which for me personally is not worth it.

To hell with those Tupperware containers after one round with a food item containing hot sauce.

A common one I've seen circulated is this picture of this remarkably attractive woman with six pack abs and biceps flexing, and a comment under it saying "if you find this hot then you're gay, sorry I don't make the rules!"

It's like bruh. It's gay to be straight now?

It goes so much further though. Like I found out there was this trend (might possibly have been a page on reddit or something) of women complaining about their husbands or boyfriends who refuse to wipe themselves after they shit. The women go online asking if this is normal and for advice on how to convince their husbands to wipe themselves. One husband got in his wifes face and yelled that nothing is supposed to touch him down there. They have to deal with huge, disgusting skidmarks on their underwear. Things like that.

How insecure can these guys possibly get that they're afraid of touching that area with toilet paper in the privacy and solitude of their own home bathroom?

I’m not attracted to ripped chicks for the same reason I’m not a gym rat myself. Working muscles versus lifting muscles aren’t the same. I’ve worked circles around people that regularly went to the gym. I don’t need a muscle suit for show, that’s too much goddamn effort.

…and then I chime in with the fact that I have a baby wipe warmer. Per my decision. Aloe Vera. Fuck yeah.

 

[Ben]

…and then I chime in with the fact that I have a baby wipe warmer. Per my decision. Aloe Vera. Fuck yeah.

They'll always stay warm, and conveniently within reach, if you store the wipes in your asshole.

 

[Mark]

They'll always stay warm, and conveniently within reach, if you store the wipes in your asshole.

Nah, ever try grabbing a paper towel from those tube dispensers that bunch up the paper towels in public restrooms?



As soon as one gets stuck… it’s a whole problem. Get it? HOLE PROBLEM?!

 

[Ben]

Nah, ever try grabbing a paper towel from those tube dispensers that bunch up the paper towels in public restrooms?

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As soon as one gets stuck… it’s a whole problem. Get it? HOLE PROBLEM?!

That's what the aloe is for: to prevent chafing bunching.

 

[Mark]

That's what the aloe is for: to prevent chafing bunching.

I have no idea what I walked into with this thread, but, it’s not even 9am and I’ve already asserted that I have a clean asshole to internet friends.

Tuesdays.

 

[Ben]

I have no idea what I walked into with this thread, but, it’s not even 9am and I’ve already asserted that I have a clean asshole to internet friends.

Tuesdays.

No skids on this Mark.

 

[Mark]

No skids on this Mark.

Everyone already knew I’m an asshole.

Everyone already knew I’m a neat freak.

Now, everyone gets to put the two facts together and take comfort in the fact that I’m not running around with mudbutt.

 

[Ben]

Everyone already knew I’m an asshole.

Everyone already knew I’m a neat freak.

Now, everyone gets to put the two facts together and take comfort in the fact that I’m not running around with mudbutt.

OR the masses are left to assume that your need for wipes so frequently that they have to be warmed for comfort means you've got a perpetually seeping anus.

Either/or.

 

[Mark]

OR the masses are left to assume that your need for wipes so frequently that they have to be warmed for comfort means you've got a perpetually seeping anus.

Either/or.

I do talk a lot of shit… that’s totally plausible.

 

[Ben]

 

[Ants!]

To hell with those Tupperware containers after one round with a food item containing hot sauce.



I’m not attracted to ripped chicks for the same reason I’m not a gym rat myself. Working muscles versus lifting muscles aren’t the same. I’ve worked circles around people that regularly went to the gym. I don’t need a muscle suit for show, that’s too much goddamn effort.

…and then I chime in with the fact that I have a baby wipe warmer. Per my decision. Aloe Vera. Fuck yeah.

I get that. We all have a type. That's not the same as gay/hetero though.

Also I should mention that occasionally I use my sons diaper wipes on myself instead of regular TP, if I feel the need to treat myself or feel fancy

 

[Ants!]

Actually, now I'm remembering a time when I had my brothers and a bunch of friends at my house (back in our swordfighting days) and I don't know how the conversation came up, but somehow I mentioned that I actually washed my ass in the shower, and everybody reacted like I admitted doing the weirdest and most bizarre thing ever. Like it was seriously a strange and alien concept to everyone in the room, they couldn't imagine why anyone would wash there. And I'm like...seriously? It's easily the dirtiest part of your body. Yall don't wash there and I'm somehow the weird one?

That was about 16 years ago. I wonder if any of them have evolved since then.