Zell Wolf GWF Wolf - Zell's Version3 Night2/Day2

[A Punched Face]

Where's that handy chart from earlier? We really need to narrow down the potential list of suspects are.

I know we have plenty of time left (over 24 hours), but it'd be nice to have an updated list.

Name	Roles Claimed/Suspected	Confirmed?
Aura Seer	Aura Seer
Ants	Tough Guy
Benzine	Bodyguard
Canadaguy	Marksman	Y?
Cole	Guardian Wolf?
Fool's Requiem	Spirit Seer
Holly	Warden	Y?
Kat	Witch	Y?
Killface	Ritualist	Y
Local Hero	Aura Seer
Raposa	Bodyguard
Ryan	Werewolf Fan?
Shortkut	townie, role unknown. Seer?
TD	LOUD NOISES
Vash	Marksman?
Warp	Spirit Seer

I think? I added in the confirmed column. I think right now our only confirmed people are ones that are guaranteed roles.

 

[Holly]

That's a lotta seers.

 

[Local Hero]

I think? I added in the confirmed column. I think right now our only confirmed people are ones that are guaranteed roles.

I would be confident putting spirit seer on Shortkut

 

[A Punched Face]

Okay, and then based on what Kat was listing out before, the following people can also be eliminated from being RK:

aura seer
Benzine?
FR
LH
Warp

I think that's accurate. It was easier to find the table than that post of hers.

Which has the suspects for RK:
Ants
Raposa
TD
Vash

 

[Raposuh]

ACTUALLY!

The role says "IF THEY OR THE PERSON THEY ARE PROTECTING IS ATTACKED"...

For clarity, you're asking the random killer to attack me, right?

 

[A Punched Face]

I would be confident putting spirit seer on Shortkut

That's fair, would be weird for a confirmed townie to sow chaos by lying to the now confirmed ritualist.

 

[Local Hero]

If Vash is marksman also, them that's another person assigned one of the only 3 random roles

 

[A Punched Face]

At the very least, we have at least 1 of all the required roles accounted for in the list.

 

[Holly]

I would be confident putting spirit seer on Shortkut

So either Warp is lying or she's a random role?

 

[VashTheStampede]

Okay, and then based on what Kat was listing out before, the following people can also be eliminated from being RK:

aura seer
Benzine?
FR
LH
Warp

I think that's accurate. It was easier to find the table than that post of hers.

Which has the suspects for RK:
Ants
Raposa
TD
Vash

I'm sorry, operating under the assumption that all the seer claims are legit is the most suspect thing I've seen in this game

 

[Local Hero]

I would say she's one of like 5 that have claimed roles that make them suspicious. I have nothing to suggest that she's more suspicious than anyone else (other than myself and Alu, though I'm biased)

 

[VashTheStampede]

Kat I think is definitely legit.
Killface I think is definitely legit.
canadaguy I think is definitely legit.
Holly I think is definitely legit.

 

[A Punched Face]

I'm sorry, operating under the assumption that all the seer claims are legit is the most suspect thing I've seen in this game

lmao yes. Which is why I'm very obviously saying kat was the one who gave that list. Just summarizing it all.

 

[VashTheStampede]

lmao yes. Which is why I'm very obviously saying kat was the one who gave that list. Just summarizing it all.

OH ok I thought that you were just blindly going along with that

My bad

 

[A Punched Face]

Also, I believe it was Benzine that gave an actual excuse for why there was no wolf kill last night, if I remember correctly? Is that right @Benzine ? Too many posts at this point to find that.

 

[Local Hero]

Also, I believe it was Benzine that gave an actual excuse for why there was no wolf kill last night, if I remember correctly? Is that right @Benzine ? Too many posts at this point to find that.

If I remember, he said he protected Canadaguy.

 

[A Punched Face]

I protected canadaguy and have been told he was attacked.

Found it.

That new feature where you list out the number of posts by users and then can click on them to find all users posts is clutch.

 

[VashTheStampede]

But we don't know if cg was attacked?

 

[VashTheStampede]

Oh ok good

 

[VashTheStampede]

Benzine I think is definitely legit

 

[canadaguy]

Kat I think is definitely legit.
Killface I think is definitely legit.
canadaguy I think is definitely legit.
Holly I think is definitely legit.

Too legit to quit baby


That is to say, unless anyone can tell me otherwise, I intend to follow through tonight.

 

[canadaguy]

Are dead wolves allowed to chat in the wolf chat? I'd assume no right, at least in the spirit of the game.

 

[Holly]

Are dead wolves allowed to chat in the wolf chat? I'd assume no right, at least in the spirit of the game.

When I was a wolf last game and was lynched Zell made a new wolf chat without me and the last message in the OG wolf chat was to use the new conversation.

 

[Local Hero]

Name	Roles Claimed/Suspected	Confirmed?
Aura Seer	Aura Seer	Y
Ants	Tough Guy
Benzine	Bodyguard	Y
Canadaguy	Marksman	Y?
Cole	Guardian Wolf
Fool's Requiem	Spirit Seer
Holly	Warden	Y?
Kat	Witch	Y?
Killface	Ritualist	Y
Local	Aura Seer	Y
Raposa	Bodyguard
Ryan	Werewolf Fan?	?
Shortkut	Spirit Seer	Y
TD	Total Dunce
Vash	Marksman?
Warp	Spirit Seer

Kat I think is definitely legit.
Killface I think is definitely legit.
canadaguy I think is definitely legit.
Holly I think is definitely legit.

Kat, Killface, canadaguy, Holly, Alu, Local, Benzine, Fool, I feel good about.

Suspicious (to me, at least right now): Ants!, Raposa, TD, Vash, Warp

 

[Killface!]

Are dead wolves allowed to chat in the wolf chat? I'd assume no right, at least in the spirit of the game.

They can't. Zell starts a new chat when a wolf dies.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Suspicious (to me, at least right now): Ants!, Raposa, TD, Vash, Warp

Yeah, I think this is a pretty fair place to start, but I don't feel as good about Fool. Better than earlier but the VIBES

 

[Fool's Requiem]

I'm confused. How did we figure out that kut was a Spirit Seer? He died before he could say or do anything.

 

[Ants!]

View attachment 1508

Please keep all the smut to this thread please:

https://gwforums.com/threads/times-...isiting-my-only-fans-i-got-kids-to-feed-👇.14/

 

[Local Hero]

I'm confused. How did we figure out that kut was a Spirit Seer? He died before he could say or do anything.

Killface! is able to commune with the dead, and his role is all but 100% confirmed.

 

[Killface!]

I'm still not convinced about Fool.

I feel PRETTY OKAY about TD being ONE OF THE GOOD GUYS.

 

[Holly]

I'm confused. How did we figure out that kut was a Spirit Seer? He died before he could say or do anything.

I think our Ritualist spoke to them last night.

 

[Kat]

I'm tending to agree with you that it seems likely that it's either Ants or Raposa though. But not yet ready to say I'm 100% on either of them. Any reason to eliminate Vash or TD, or include someone from the first list?

So I think I messed up my math. I was assuming we could account for all bad guys by looking at who claimed a possibly random role, and I didn't remember them claiming anything. But you're right, Vash and TD should need included as suspicious.

lmao yes. Which is why I'm very obviously saying kat was the one who gave that list. Just summarizing it all.

I'm NOT saying all the seers are legit. I'm sure some are definitely not. I'm saying anybody who has given good info about roles and that sort of thing likely got the info as a sorcerer or as a wolf, so is unlikely to be the RK, which is our priority.

I think I need to rewrite my last post to take into account Vash and TD. IMO anyone who hasn't claimed a role at all is very suspicious.

 

[Raposuh]

Benzine I think is definitely legit

Sorry, in what way? We don't know that CG was legit attacked, right, as only the bodyguard is notified?

Bodyguard - Can save a player at night. If they or the person they are guarding are attacked by normal evil/solo night attacks, the person they are guarding will be protected and the bodyguard will be injured. If they are injured again (by either protecting someone or is attacked or being attacked directly) they will die. The bodyguard will be notified if their protection is successful, but nobody else will be.

So Benzine has claimed that CG was attacked and he protected him and that's why there was no wolf kill, but it could as easily be the wolves attacked the werewolf fan? Am I wrong again?

 

[Local Hero]

I'll add that since I feel good about me, Alu (aura seer) and fool's and Shortkut's (spirit seer), that leaves one remaining random role available.

Out of Ants!, Raposa, Vash, and Warp, only one is telling the truth.

Again, that's assuming Fool is telling the truth (based on good Aura and knowing about the weapon).

 

[Holly]

I'm voting for Warp. The chances of having four seers in back-to-back games is just ludicrous to me. And with 'kut confirmed spirit seer and Local and Alu both aura seers, it just doesn't add up to me.

I am willing to change this vote if y'all have a better idea. But I need to start from somewhere today.

 

[Local Hero]

Sorry, in what way? We don't know that CG was legit attacked, right, as only the bodyguard is notified?

Bodyguard - Can save a player at night. If they or the person they are guarding are attacked by normal evil/solo night attacks, the person they are guarding will be protected and the bodyguard will be injured. If they are injured again (by either protecting someone or is attacked or being attacked directly) they will die. The bodyguard will be notified if their protection is successful, but nobody else will be.

So Benzine has claimed that CG was attacked and he protected him and that's why there was no wolf kill, but it could as easily be the wolves attacked the werewolf fan? Am I wrong again?

Possible, but we're also suspecting Ryan of being the werewolf fan.

 

[Local Hero]

Possible, but we're also suspecting Ryan of being the werewolf fan.

But I suppose the could have tried attacking him anyways, therefore still no kill. I get what you're saying, Raposa.

 

[Raposuh]

Possible, but we're also suspecting Ryan of being the werewolf fan.

Sure, but why are suspicions enough to confirm Benzine as legit in your list? That seems like a mistake easily taken advantage of by wolves later.

 

[Zell 17]

Votes to lynch (6 required):

Raposa - 3 (Local Hero, TD, VashTheStampede)
VashTheStampede - 1 (Fool's Requiem)
aura seer - 1 (Raposa)
Warp - 1 (Holly)

No votes - aura seer, Ants!, Benzine, canadaguy, Killface!, Warp, Local Hero

Votes to skip (12 required):

No votes - aura seer, Ants!, Benzine, canadaguy, Fool's Requiem, Holly, Kat, Killface!, Local Hero, Raposa, TD, VashTheStampede, Warp

 

[Local Hero]

Sure, but why are suspicions enough to confirm Benzine as legit in your list? That seems like a mistake easily taken advantage of by wolves later.

I do agree.

This game is hard

 

[Local Hero]

I'll add that since I feel good about me, Alu (aura seer) and fool's and Shortkut's (spirit seer), that leaves one remaining random role available.

Out of Ants!, Raposa, Vash, and Warp, only one is telling the truth.

Again, that's assuming Fool is telling the truth (based on good Aura and knowing about the weapon).

Edit: Out of Ants!, Vash, and Warp, only one or zero is telling the truth.

Out of Benzine and Raposa, only one or both are telling the truth (If both are telling the truth, none of the above list are truthful. Is my math right?)

 

[Benzine]

No one has contested that Killface is the ritualist. If someone else was, this would’ve been the time to say so.

@Zell 17 did I miss your response to my questions? What happens if ritualist sets up revive on bodyguard and then the guard dies - does the body guard rez with the extra life?

@Killface! if the above is true itd really really be cool if you used your skill on me. I believe the wolves know who our killers are, I believe one of our killers has a good idea on someone, and I’d like to help the brother out.

There’s no way kut isn’t the spirit seer. There’s absolutely nothing to be gained from anything else.

Ryan really seems like the aura seer to me. If they were anything else, they wouldn’t go for the sac. If someone would like to posit an idea for another role that would claim and be willing to die - and willing to be lynched - I’d love to hear it.

I’m a believer the the FR sorcerer stretch but I am worried I just want to believe.

I think I’d rather vote for Raposa if I had to chuck one now.

Also this is my first post from my phone and I’m in bed sick so do some good work ya fuckers

 

[VashTheStampede]

I'm voting for Warp. The chances of having four seers in back-to-back games is just ludicrous to me. And with 'kut confirmed spirit seer and Local and Alu both aura seers, it just doesn't add up to me.

That actually falls more in line with my thoughts than my current Raposa vote. I may switch...

 

[Local Hero]

That actually falls more in line with my thoughts than my current Raposa vote. I may switch...

I vote Warp

 

[Benzine]

Damn new posts while typing on phone.

@Raposa They trust me cause they’ve done powers too. They know I’ve claimed to protecting an awesome character on the good guy team. I offered the info without question, without dispute, and so on. I look fucken awesome.

The point of Zell’s game is to make people work out who is lying (or even if someone is lying) in these spots. You’re a bit unlucky you’re talking with people who know about the people I’ve checked.

 

[Killface!]

@Zell 17 did I miss your response to my questions? What happens if ritualist sets up revive on bodyguard and then the guard dies - does the body guard rez with the extra life?

I'll let Zell respond with the ACTUAL answer, but if it's like how it was during another game, if the BG dies with 2 hits, they come back with 2 hits. If they only have 1 hit left, they come back with 1 hit.

 

[Zell 17]

No one has contested that Killface is the ritualist. If someone else was, this would’ve been the time to say so.

@Zell 17 did I miss your response to my questions? What happens if ritualist sets up revive on bodyguard and then the guard dies - does the body guard rez with the extra life?

@Killface! if the above is true itd really really be cool if you used your skill on me. I believe the wolves know who our killers are, I believe one of our killers has a good idea on someone, and I’d like to help the brother out.

There’s no way kut isn’t the spirit seer. There’s absolutely nothing to be gained from anything else.

Ryan really seems like the aura seer to me. If they were anything else, they wouldn’t go for the sac. If someone would like to posit an idea for another role that would claim and be willing to die - and willing to be lynched - I’d love to hear it.

I’m a believer the the FR sorcerer stretch but I am worried I just want to believe.

I think I’d rather vote for Raposa if I had to chuck one now.

Also this is my first post from my phone and I’m in bed sick so do some good work ya fuckers

Once a BG loses it's shield, it's gone forever.

 

[Zell 17]

Votes to lynch (6 required):

Raposa - 2 (TD, VashTheStampede)
Warp - 2 (Holly, Local Hero)
VashTheStampede - 1 (Fool's Requiem)
aura seer - 1 (Raposa)

No votes - aura seer, Ants!, Benzine, canadaguy, Killface!, Warp, Local Hero

Votes to skip (12 required):

No votes - aura seer, Ants!, Benzine, canadaguy, Fool's Requiem, Holly, Kat, Killface!, Local Hero, Raposa, TD, VashTheStampede, Warp

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Killface! is able to commune with the dead, and his role is all but 100% confirmed.

I think our Ritualist spoke to them last night.

Thanks. I've been unable to fully keep up with this thread today.

 

[Benzine]

Sweet. Well team, I’m confident I’ll be dying tonight. That’ll help in a couple of ways. But do not worry - once this flurry of arrow comes in overnight, you’ll be glad I did.

Has some one used a power on Warp? Warp is claiming the innocence of some.