Zell Wolf GWF Wolf - Zell's Version Night 1/Day 1/Night 2

[shortkut]

Exactly what a wolf crew with a berserker would say.

I'm going back to my initial feeling.

I vote shortkut.

You idiot, it’s the only thing that protects him from a berserker attack

Jailer - During the day, can select a player to jail at night. Selection is done via PM to me. The player jailed cannot be killed at night via normal evil/solo attacks. The player jailed cannot perform any night actions

Jailer - During the day, can select a player to jail at night. Selection is done via PM to me. The player jailed cannot be killed at night via normal evil/solo attacks.

 

[TD]

Normal attacks.
Berserk is very clearly not a normal attack.

 

[shortkut]

@Cole stsrted this witch hunt. I’m not going to defend myself any longer because I provided enough evidence that Cole should 100% be able to tell I’m not a wolf. If he can’t, then I’ll laugh at you all from the dead chat with @aura seer

 

[Dean]

@Zell 17 can you confirm if Cole would be safe if the Jailer protects him, including from Berserk Wolf attacks?

 

[shortkut]

Normal attacks.
Berserk is very clearly not a normal attack.

Very clearly a solo attack

@Zell 17 clarification needed

Does jail protect from berserker attack?

 

[Raine]

Berserk wolf would indeed kill the jailer if they use berserk on someone jailed.

^

 

[Zell 17]

Very clearly a solo attack

@Zell 17 clarification needed

Does jail protect from berserker attack?

Zell Wolf - GWF Wolf - Zell's Version Night 1/Day 1/Night 2

Sorry, I meant the shaman wolf targeting the other person, not Alu.

gwforums.com

 

[shortkut]

Zell Wolf - GWF Wolf - Zell's Version Night 1/Day 1/Night 2

Sorry, I meant the shaman wolf targeting the other person, not Alu.

gwforums.com

Didn’t see that post. Then it doesn’t matter. If there’s a berserker wolf and they target Cole, we lose 2 townies

 

[Raine]

There's no guarantee there's a Berserk Wolf, and we have both the Jailer and the Tough Guy minimally. So... yeah.

Realistically the Jailer should protect Cole if they feel confident, because Cole doesn't have a night action that will get blocked. Meanwhile, I guess, the Tough Guy should protect whichever person they think the Seer is. And we all collectively cross our fingers.


In the meantime, I'm going to throw out a formal vote for @Fool's Requiem.

 

[Zell 17]

Very clearly a solo attack

@Zell 17 clarification needed

Does jail protect from berserker attack?

Solo attack = solo killer

 

[shortkut]

Solo attack = solo killer

I interpreted it as:
normal evil = regular wolf kill
Solo action = anything specific to an individual person, seers, kills, detective, etc

 

[shortkut]

There's no guarantee there's a Berserk Wolf, and we have both the Jailer and the Tough Guy minimally. So... yeah.

Realistically the Jailer should protect Cole if they feel confident, because Cole doesn't have a night action that will get blocked. Meanwhile, I guess, the Tough Guy should protect whichever person they think the Seer is. And we all collectively cross our fingers.


In the meantime, I'm going to throw out a formal vote for @Fool's Requiem.

Changing vote to @Fool's Requiem . In one of my many other posts, I had him at the top of my suspect list

 

[TD]

Not saying for or against as I had some suspicions of him initially.

What's the logic on FR?

 

[VashTheStampede]

 

[shortkut]

The way he was acting earlier was reminiscent of how he acted when he was the serial killer

 

[Zell 17]

@VashTheStampede I took your "who knows" vote as an abstention, let me know if that's not the case.

Votes to lynch (6 required):

canadaguy - 1 (Fool's Requiem)
TD - 1 (canadaguy)
shortkut - 2 (Ants!, TD)
Fool's Requiem - 2 (Warp, shortkut)

No vote - Raposa, Benzine, Dean, Tubby23, Cole, Holly, VashTheStampede

Votes to skip (12 required):

Skip - 7 (Raposa, Fool's Requiem, Holly, shortkut, canadaguy, Warp)

No vote - Benzine, Ants!, Dean, Cole, VashTheStampede, Tubby23, TD

 

[Raine]

Not saying for or against as I had some suspicions of him initially.

What's the logic on FR?

Mostly looking to see if he'll defend himself, but:

My joke vote is useless now.

Voting canadaguy.

As for the wolves - in terms of good ol' fashioned shenanigans, gotta point out that Fool's Requiem was damn fast to jump onto that train and is currently the only one still voting for for CG. He's also the type that consistently hides, as does Benzine, so... take that for what you will.

He was technically the third person to vote for canadaguy, after Cole himself and shortkut. But functionally the second, and with no reasoning beyond the above.

 

[Cole]

Also, how funny is it that we were asking Coleman to shoot himself

so there were really only 2 people invested that I could talk to about what I was doing. I kept bouncing ideas/stating my intentions to Zell (HE WAS NOT RESPONDING AT ALL)

It was more just me having a sounding board to sort out my own plans. And I was like "lol @ them asking the gunner to kill me", I also messaged Kat like 10 minutes into my idea (we had been chatting a tiny bit about wolf) and I said "I'm about to try something insane."

 

[Ants!]

I’m thinking that until the berserker wolf is killed, protectors should do their thing quietly, and not announce who they are shielding.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Sorry to keep bothering you Zell but I'm gonna place my vote on Holly just cause thats where my vibes are pointing with her being a self-admitted follower on her vote.

 

[TD]

I’m thinking that until the berserker wolf is killed, protectors should do their thing quietly, and not announce who they are shielding.

There might not even be one either.

Protectors should save our very obvious townsfolk. Yeah, we know one role for now but there's lots of other valuable town roles.

 

[Zell 17]

Votes to lynch (6 required):

canadaguy - 1 (Fool's Requiem)
TD - 1 (canadaguy)
shortkut - 2 (Ants!, TD)
Fool's Requiem - 2 (Warp, shortkut)
Holly - 1 (VashTheStampede)

No vote - Raposa, Benzine, Dean, Tubby23, Cole, Holly

Votes to skip (12 required):

Skip - 7 (Raposa, Fool's Requiem, Holly, shortkut, canadaguy, Warp)

No vote - Benzine, Ants!, Dean, Cole, VashTheStampede, Tubby23, TD

 

[Cole]

I’m thinking that until the berserker wolf is killed, protectors should do their thing quietly, and not announce who they are shielding.

agreed.

I will state again

unless we know that a berserker wolf is NOT in this game, we cant announce our plans. We got away with it in game 1 because the wolves were apprehensive to shoot their shot.

I AM A RISK TO BE PROTECTED TONIGHT

If you want to, do it, and i will do my best the rest of the game, but I would totally understand not risking the double kill.

I caused Tommy to die, dont go down with me now.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Man, I miss the Cole post and all of a sudden I'm the only nerd voting for CG

Changing vote to shortkut. I still think CG and kut are wolves. kut definitely wanted Cole dead.

 

[VashTheStampede]

kut definitely wanted Cole dead.

Oh so now that's a crime?!

 

[Cole]

Oh so now that's a crime?!

hahahahahahahaha

 

[Dean]

Sorry to keep bothering you Zell but I'm gonna place my vote on Holly just cause thats where my vibes are pointing with her being a self-admitted follower on her vote.

Who was Holly voting for before switching to abstaining? Was it Cole?

 

[TD]

My current suspicious list: shortkut, Warp, Holly

Got my eye on them: canadaguy, FR

You're probably not a wolf: Ants, Vash, (obv Cole)

Just wanting to get it out there in case, y'know.

 

[Cole]

Who was Holly voting for before switching to abstaining? Was it Cole?

not to my recollection. she was one of the ones waiting to see what I was gonna say, I think she's been absent a little bit since then.

 

[TD]

Who was Holly voting for before switching to abstaining? Was it Cole?

canadaguy

 

[Zell 17]

Votes to lynch (6 required):

shortkut - 3 (Ants!, TD, Fool's Requiem)
Fool's Requiem - 2 (Warp, shortkut)
Holly - 1 (VashTheStampede)
TD - 1 (canadaguy)

No vote - Raposa, Benzine, Dean, Tubby23, Cole, Holly

Votes to skip (12 required):

Skip - 7 (Raposa, Fool's Requiem, Holly, shortkut, canadaguy, Warp)

No vote - Benzine, Ants!, Dean, Cole, VashTheStampede, Tubby23, TD

 

[shortkut]

Changing vote to shortkut. I still think CG and kut are wolves. kut definitely wanted Cole dead.

Yes I did, am I explained why. I thought he was alpha wolf or RK. Both are a risk to the town and needed to be eliminated. You bring this up like it was irrational at the time.

Keeping vote in @Fool's Requiem for being obvious wolf and/or dumdum

 

[Raine]

Holly started with abstain, followed Cole's vote with canadaguy, then went back to abstain.

My current suspicious list: shortkut, Warp, Holly

What? I've never been suspicious a day in my life. Ignore the cookie crumbs on my fingers and mouth!

 

[VashTheStampede]

My current suspicious list: shortkut, Warp, Holly

Got my eye on them: canadaguy, FR

You're probably not a wolf: Ants, Vash, (obv Cole)

Just wanting to get it out there in case, y'know.

This is pretty close to where I am with things so I feel a little better about my reads now.

Pretty sure I'm not a wolf. But my brain is so fried by now that I can't be 100%

 

[Holly]

I'll change my vote to canadaguy.
Based on Tommy splashing Cole with water and proving he's not a wolf, I'm going to trust that Cole knows what he's doing and he has some intel that this is a good move.

Ugh, that's what I get for being a follower.

Changing my vote to abstain.

Sorry to keep bothering you Zell but I'm gonna place my vote on Holly just cause thats where my vibes are pointing with her being a self-admitted follower on her vote.

Just another game of me with egg on my face. At least this time it wasn't for glancing over the original post. I was trusting that Cole knew that canadaguy was a wolf.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Yes I did, am I explained why. I thought he was alpha wolf or RK. Both are a risk to the town and needed to be eliminated. You bring this up like it was irrational at the time.

Keeping vote in @Fool's Requiem for being obvious wolf and/or dumdum

dude... Tommy proved that Cole wasn't wolf. You were hell bend on the idea of him being Fool or RK. Neither major risks early... unless you're a wolf.

 

[Ants!]

agreed.

I will state again

unless we know that a berserker wolf is NOT in this game, we cant announce our plans. We got away with it in game 1 because the wolves were apprehensive to shoot their shot.

I AM A RISK TO BE PROTECTED TONIGHT

If you want to, do it, and i will do my best the rest of the game, but I would totally understand not risking the double kill.

I caused Tommy to die, dont go down with me now.

I think you are also at risk being offed by the random killer. Also the tough guy will make both of them think twice. We lose a townie, but get a safe and certified lynching afterwards. Thoughts?

 

[VashTheStampede]

Just another game of me with egg on my face. At least this time it wasn't for glancing over the original post. I was trusting that Cole knew that canadaguy was a wolf.

Ok seeing it all together like that it doesn't feel as suspect as when I was going back through the entire day...

 

[Cole]

I don't wanna make another huge post *right now* (I will likely before this day is through)

but I will say

I thoroughly believe TD is *NOT* an enemy of the town. He was the ONLY ONE strongly advocating for reason and to not throw a bullet out there on suspicion of me being an enemy. TD was the first one to settle on the CORRECT theory, that my whole day was about information gathering.

If hes playing us, thats fine, and he's doing a masterful job. But my gut says hes not.

Warp was actually the first person I had any inkling on what so ever. (I'll go back through later tonight and see if I can remember my reasoning, don't just bandwagon now)

shortkut is still fairly high on my list. he's too good a player to risk a gunner kill when he didnt know what I was doing. BUT, hes also the same guy that advocates for day 1 random voting as a townie, so maybe its just that.

Vash supported TD, Im inclined to lump him in there, but less so, its hard to be the leader of a strategy, its easy to be a follower.

Ants could go either way. I'm starting to see that he's good enough to make the big brain plays, so there are reasons I suspect him, and reasons I would exonerate him.

I will do a more detailed post later.

But I am determined to try and lynch a wolf today. there is SO MUCH information to be had here.

 

[shortkut]

dude... Tommy proved that Cole wasn't wolf. You were hell bend on the idea of him being Fool or RK. Neither major risks early... unless you're a wolf.

I never thought he was the fool, I said he wanted us to think he was the fool. I expected him to play differently if he was townie, and if he had an unknown aura, it only left RK since I eliminated fool and alpha wolf.

Stop being an idiot

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Stop being an idiot

no

 

[Cole]

Just another game of me with egg on my face. At least this time it wasn't for glancing over the original post. I was trusting that Cole knew that canadaguy was a wolf.

you didn't do anything wrong. You gave the exact reaction I was hoping to illicit. no one died as a result of you tagging along. Dont be hard on yoruself. You were among the first to point out that what I was doing was INCREDIBLY odd. You said something like "Coles caginess is weirding me out" and that was the moment i knew I had everyone.

you're reading the game well, stick with it.

 

[Dean]

I'm sticking with abstention until Cole posts more about his thoughts on Warp. I think TD and canadaguy are both innocent.

 

[Cole]

I think you are also at risk being offed by the random killer. Also the tough guy will make both of them think twice. We lose a townie, but get a safe and certified lynching afterwards. Thoughts?

its really hard to say, but also, I did not promise honesty OR transparency this game. And I absolutely will not be discussing who should and shouldn't be protected tonight. There are too many variables and after whats transpired, I'm not going to take that risk.

if you are a protectror, protect me at your own risk and judgement.

who knows, my next shot could be wrong. my next shot could be the serial killer.

I am A HUGE HUGE HUGE target tonight. Do I wanna be protected, of course I do. But there's little reasons for the wolves to keep me around right now. The only reason they DONT try tonight is if they A: dont have berserk AND B: they think I'll be protected.

so... at your own risk, guardians.

 

[Cole]

counter-point

Medium. if you're out there.. (should I light candles for this or something?) hang on to your butt.

If I die tonight, I plan to talk with whoever else is in there, and maybe we can figure out a second bullet. In fact... based on who is in there I think there's a reasonable chance we can get a clean second shot.

So wolves.

Kill me at your own risk.

 

[Cole]

okay, last post before I go eat something.

Are we in agreement that we should try and lynch a wolf today? We cant end the game, the fool is gone, do we take a risk on a day 1? This isnt a normal day 1, everyone knows my thoughts. But theres SO MUCH information in this thread, I think we can do it. But I'm not gonna push for it if people think its too risky.

 

[TD]

Hypothetically if Cole dies tonight and the medium brings him back - does he still have his remaining shot?

 

[Tubby23]

From the last game, yes. If they had unused powers they got to use them I believe

 

[TD]

okay, last post before I go eat something.

Are we in agreement that we should try and lynch a wolf today? We cant end the game, the fool is gone, do we take a risk on a day 1? This isnt a normal day 1, everyone knows my thoughts. But theres SO MUCH information in this thread, I think we can do it. But I'm not gonna push for it if people think its too risky.

I don't think we have enough to be sure, but we do have enough for a decent probability.

I've always been a swing for the fences type so I think we should go for it.

 

[shortkut]

okay, last post before I go eat something.

Are we in agreement that we should try and lynch a wolf today? We cant end the game, the fool is gone, do we take a risk on a day 1? This isnt a normal day 1, everyone knows my thoughts. But theres SO MUCH information in this thread, I think we can do it. But I'm not gonna push for it if people think its too risky.

If you are confident, let’s do it