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I mean that was pretty much Trumps entire time in office, shit and incompetence, and a little incontinenceJust seems like a shit at glory and incompetence that caused the whole thing to unfold the way it did.
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I mean that was pretty much Trumps entire time in office, shit and incompetence, and a little incontinenceJust seems like a shit at glory and incompetence that caused the whole thing to unfold the way it did.
Oh, yes, very legitimate.Really not sure which thread to post this in but just got this lovely textView attachment 18135
If anyone cares, this is a short response video from Matt Carriker, from Demolition Ranch. A channel I've watched for years. He's a good dude and a funny content creator. He's been thrust into the spotlight because the shooter was wearing his shirt. I wondered if he'd respond to this. I think this is a shitty situation for him because obviously he had NOTHING to do with this.
"This jackass hasn't shown any compassion for my husband who took the bullet intended for him, but I'm voting for him anyway!"
I've watched his channel before. They definitely never seems to push any political rhetoric and come across as generally good guys (with a gun).
But there's definitely something to be said about the "gun channel" side of Youtube to begin with. While they probably stop children from viewing those, I'm guessing they're open to teenagers (as are guns in some states). In general, even if you're just showing off what various guns can do, that's still bringing them into mainstream view for impressionable people to see and think "oh that goes pop pop real good".
Maybe it's a case of acquired discipline or something. If you just watch a youtube channel where they're firing off assault rifles at targets, come to think that's all there is to it, that you point and click, and you go steal your dad's gun... You don't have any gained respect for firearms. You don't fear them enough.
Not to say that's explicitly the case here, but I stopped watching all of those types of channels after a while because they just seemed to aggrandize weapons without necessarily conveying what they're ultimately for and can do. I don't think I ever saw a youtube channel stress the four TABK rules, for example.
I mean, I get it. There's a legitimate use for hunting (even if it's not my cup of tea) and certainly for home defense. I even acknowledge that my interest in those channels was when I was frequently going to the firing range.It’s also a cultural thing… I couldn’t tell you how many kids I see out there with water guns, nerf guns, or those Orbeez guns pretending to be the older kids with real guns, because let’s face it… that’s what those kids look up to.
As far as the rural kids… from what I’ve seen, it’s part of hunting culture, it’s part of home defense culture, it’s part of “being a man” or “being a strong woman”.
I wouldn’t consider myself someone embedded in gun culture, but I’ve been around them my whole life, and in just about any imaginable scenario you could picture a civilian non-combatant to encounter. I’ve slept with one beside me because of the area I lived in, I narrowly avoided meeting my maker because of them, and I’ve spent too many hours in hospitals and funeral homes in the aftermath of what they’re capable of. Glorifying them, in any capacity, instead of recognizing them for the tool that they are, only produce life-changing or deadly results.
I mean, I get it. There's a legitimate use for hunting (even if it's not my cup of tea) and certainly for home defense. I even acknowledge that my interest in those channels was when I was frequently going to the firing range.
But they still don't really stress how fucking dangerous they are. They care about showing off how big a hole it'll put in a car door, or how fast they can pick off targets hanging in the woods. Even when they rack the slide and pop a round out to make sure it's clear, they don't explain why.
I just think in general having a mandatory PSA segment in those channels for 'treat every firearm like it's loaded, always point the muzzle in a safe direction, be aware of what's before and behind your target and keep your finger off the trigger until you're ready to destroy something' might do at least a little to educate youtube kids.
But I also eventually just made a $200 nerf gun with a red dot sight for target shooting because ammo is expensive and I was tired of donating spent brass to the range.![]()
Boy if that doesn't sum it up
Boy if that doesn't sum it up
What else could I add
But but but... Fortnite says if I die I just come back on the next battle bus!It’s also a cultural thing… I couldn’t tell you how many kids I see out there with water guns, nerf guns, or those Orbeez guns pretending to be the older kids with real guns, because let’s face it… that’s what those kids look up to.
As far as the rural kids… from what I’ve seen, it’s part of hunting culture, it’s part of home defense culture, it’s part of “being a man” or “being a strong woman”.
I wouldn’t consider myself someone embedded in gun culture, but I’ve been around them my whole life, and in just about any imaginable scenario you could picture a civilian non-combatant to encounter. I’ve slept with one beside me because of the area I lived in, I narrowly avoided meeting my maker because of them, and I’ve spent too many hours in hospitals and funeral homes in the aftermath of what they’re capable of. Glorifying them, in any capacity, instead of recognizing them for the tool that they are, only produce life-changing or deadly results.
Unless Trump is being investigated as a suspect or an accomplice, there is absolutely nothing that prevents him from reaching out to that family. It's a character thing and this once again shows the difference in character between Biden and Trump. Biden called to offer condolences... Trump is grandstanding that he's God's chosen one.For what it’s worth, he may be prohibited from speaking with the family since it’s an active investigation and he himself is technically a victim as well. I have seen similar before, but only to prevent co-defendants from coordinating a narrative of the events. Considering we’re talking about a fatal shooting… it could be a number of things, from not corrupting (heh, go figure) Trump’s testimony with any degree of personal attachment to another victim, all the way up to they just don’t want him saying anything to anyone intimately involved with the case. I’m not gonna make a habit of making excuses for the guy, but this might be one of those times we find out he’s actually doing what he’s told.
Anyone see that dot way out there in Alaska?Just gonna leave this here apropos of nothing
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For what it’s worth, he may be prohibited from speaking with the family
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Yeah he famously follows rules and laws and such
It makes sense they'd want to tread carefully, even just following the assassination attempt. You've got to be veeeeeeeery careful about what jokes you make (if any at all) in light of that. And if there are any amount of MAGA counter-protesters in Milwaukee, Stewart probably doesn't want to be on the ground there.um... no Daily Show tonight. Only Office reruns. They were expecting to air shows from the RNC this week, but the Trump shooting altered it, and I'm assuming the protests and anti-protests, which are likely to not go well, likely had an impact as well... I guess I wait til tomorrow to see what they have to say about this clusterfuck.
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It could be, but Im not giving him the benefit of the doubt, Biden even tried to reach outFor what it’s worth, he may be prohibited from speaking with the family since it’s an active investigation and he himself is technically a victim as well. I have seen similar before, but only to prevent co-defendants from coordinating a narrative of the events. Considering we’re talking about a fatal shooting… it could be a number of things, from not corrupting (heh, go figure) Trump’s testimony with any degree of personal attachment to another victim, all the way up to they just don’t want him saying anything to anyone intimately involved with the case. I’m not gonna make a habit of making excuses for the guy, but this might be one of those times we find out he’s actually doing what he’s told.
It makes sense they'd want to tread carefully, even just following the assassination attempt. You've got to be veeeeeeeery careful about what jokes you make (if any at all) in light of that. And if there are any amount of MAGA counter-protesters in Milwaukee, Stewart probably doesn't want to be on the ground there.
It could be, but Im not giving him the benefit of the doubt, Biden even tried to reach out
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Convenient time for him to suddenly start caring about rules and laws.For what it’s worth, he may be prohibited from speaking with the family since it’s an active investigation and he himself is technically a victim as well. I have seen similar before, but only to prevent co-defendants from coordinating a narrative of the events. Considering we’re talking about a fatal shooting… it could be a number of things, from not corrupting (heh, go figure) Trump’s testimony with any degree of personal attachment to another victim, all the way up to they just don’t want him saying anything to anyone intimately involved with the case. I’m not gonna make a habit of making excuses for the guy, but this might be one of those times we find out he’s actually doing what he’s told.
Maybe, but it was the widow that announced it, not the Biden campaignI’m sure Biden himself tried to reach out to the victim, and it had absolutely nothing at all to do with 1. the very purpose of beating Trump to the punch, and 2. his handlers suggesting it for that very reason.
Convenient time for him to suddenly start caring about rules and laws.
Edit: I posted before reading the rest and seeing Vash had already made this quip.
Maybe, but it was the widow that announced it, not the Biden campaign
Biden pulling the 3D chess move of trying to look presidential while being and running for President.I’m sure Biden himself tried to reach out to the victim, and it had absolutely nothing at all to do with 1. the very purpose of beating Trump to the punch, and 2. his handlers suggesting it for that very reason. I don’t care for Trump as much as the next guy, but we have to be mindful that we’re balls deep in election season, so the theatrics are in overdrive. Anything we see is either related to, or in response to the campaigns… even the dipshit that pulled the trigger is going to be politicized.
Biden pulling the 3D chess move of trying to look presidential while being and running for President.
...I do assume she probably answered, either Biden or a staffer stated who they were and that they would like to talk, and then she declined the conversation.Which is just as weird, honestly. Your husband just died and you’re dunking on Biden because you hit the bitch button on him and sent him to voicemail? Goofball. Go bury your husband.
I won’t argue that, but, like I said… if getting shot at doesn’t change your perspective on things, something’s majorly wrong upstairs.
Yep he has shown to be an empathetic and emotional person, he has experienced a lot of loss in his life. I always just shake my head when conservatives make fun of Biden for showing love to his son, I'm sorry your parents didn't love you enough as a kidOr maybe, it was a genuine human thing for both Biden and the widow to do? But somehow only Trump is supposed to be showing a positive character trait after the shooting. That guy's a rule follower now, and Biden is being a fake person.
Or maybe, it was a genuine human thing for both Biden and the widow to do? But somehow only Trump is supposed to be showing a positive character trait after the shooting. That guy's a rule follower now, and Biden is being a fake person.
...I do assume she probably answered, either Biden or a staffer stated who they were and that they would like to talk, and then she declined the conversation.
I don't think "The Whitehouse" comes up on Caller ID.
We're talking about Trump clearly there is something majorly wrong upstairs
Yep he has shown to be an empathetic and emotional person, he has experienced a lot of loss in his life. I always just shake my head when conservatives make fun of Biden for showing love to his son, I'm sorry your parents didn't love you enough as a kid
You're free to feel however you want, I'm only mocking your implication that there is some sort of hypocrisy there in others.I can dislike someone and everything they stand for and still be empathetic. I’m far from a fan of Trump, but, no one deserves to go out like that. His family, as flawed and fucked as they are, didn’t deserve to see him almost taken out on live television, no different than anyone else that has suffered the same fate. This isn’t about Trump as much as it’s about the bigger picture in my point… the very same people demanding an end to violence, demanding accountability for the violence on Jan 6th, or at a minimum stricter gun control and are oppositional to “kids with guns”, are foaming at the mouth at the thought of a kid with a gun attempting to take out Trump. The irony isn’t lost on me one bit that a Republican was shot at by a kid with an “AR-style rifle”, but the other side to that coin are the people that have argued until they’re blue in the face about all of these things suddenly being cool with it when something nearly happened to the guy they don’t like.
You're free to feel however you want, I'm only mocking your implication that there is some sort of hypocrisy there in others.
Who do you mean by "people"? Literally no one I know thinks that. Nobody in the media that I have seen thinks that. Nobody in this thread has said that. I also haven't seen that in comments online.This time around, it seems like the main thing people have a problem with is the fact that the shooter missed… which also seems to be coupled with what would be defined as victim-blaming if Trump were any other person.
To double down on this... I have neither seen nor heard anyone trying to justify what happened and being upset the kid missed.Who do you mean by "people"? Literally no one I know thinks that. Nobody in the media that I have seen thinks that. Nobody in this thread has said that. I also haven't seen that in comments online.
If you're talking about fringe people, that's always around. I'm not sure why you are focused on that.
I think there's a difference between a shooter who's targetting children and a shooter who's targetting someone you perceive to be a would-be dictator who seeks to destroy the foundation your country is built on.
I'm not saying it's justified; just that there's a distinction between the two.
An aide to a D congresswoman, Kyle Gass from Tenacious D, people online... I've seen it.Who do you mean by "people"?
That said, I won't lie... I am only mildly curious about what things would have looked like if he hadn't missed. Also not the same thing.
I think there's a difference between a shooter who's targetting children and a shooter who's targetting someone you perceive to be a would-be dictator who seeks to destroy the foundation your country is built on.
I'm not saying it's justified; just that there's a distinction between the two.
Sure there are. So what?Does that mean you’re implying that there aren’t people who criticize firearms at every chance they get but are suddenly cool with the one that almost took out Trump?
Is some equally nutty guy on the other side of the aisle gonna take aim at someone else next? Are we gonna go tit for tat until there’s nothing left? That’s where my mind goes when I think about this stuff.
Not to mention the Paul Pelosi attack was an avid Trump fan doing his bidding.I would not be shocked if someone from the right did go after someone on the left because of this. Fuck, they tried to kid nap the governor of Michigan a couple years ago. They area violent and dangerous group and if I was any democrat, I'd be upping my security
I would not be shocked if someone from the right did go after someone on the left because of this. Fuck, they tried to kid nap the governor of Michigan a couple years ago. They area violent and dangerous group and if I was any democrat, I'd be upping my security
Republican mantra!What do we do about all of this gun violence? Maybe we need more guns.