Zell Wolf Zell Wolf 16 - Bigger, Longer, Uncut - Day 1

[shortkut]

the Evil Detective can

"The Evil Detective can compare players against themselves, which always guarantees that the other player will die."

That’s for being my designated researcher.

To know a murder but no role, Kat would have to be spirit seer. No harm in outing that, almost everyone who has played will know, and the odds of only the newbies being wolves is, presumably, low. She can’t be the detective, because she’d have no usable knowledge since we don’t know the rules of the dead

What concerns me is that Kat, who is an experienced player, would only select one target as SS. Last time she and I were wolves, I faked a seer claim and threw a teammate under the bus as a sacrificial lamb so secure my innocence (I was also instigated that game). Kat was supposed to be the one to do it, so I’m suspicious that she’s attempting it this game

Disclaimer: I’m usually suspicious of Kat most games, so I could just be wrong

 

[Kat]

the Evil Detective can

"The Evil Detective can compare players against themselves, which always guarantees that the other player will die."

If I were an evil detective, then I wouldn't know anything about Tommy's role except that he's not the evil detective. But fair point, you are technically correct, which is the best kind.

To know a murder but no role, Kat would have to be spirit seer.

I never claimed to know anything about murders.

What concerns me is that Kat, who is an experienced player, would only select one target as SS. Last time she and I were wolves, I faked a seer claim and threw a teammate under the bus as a sacrificial lamb so secure my innocence (I was also instigated that game). Kat was supposed to be the one to do it, so I’m suspicious that she’s attempting it this game

Nah, I was always intended to be the sacrifice, because I wouldn't suggest somebody else should get themselves killed on the first day. Ironically it was Tommy Boy who was supposed to claim the seer IIRC.

Even if it is the case that I'm also evil and setting up cover for myself, that still means my info is good.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Oh man thanks for pointing this out. Definitely voting for the dead body.

 

[shortkut]

I never claimed to know anything about murders.

It’s heavily implied . We have 2 deaths, one by wolves and one by evil Dic. You ask Tommy which of those two roles he was, meaning you know he is one of them.

Scenario 1:
You know he killed someone

Scenario 2:
You are sacrificing him because he wants more time as a newlywed

Scenario 3:
You are sacrificing him because he wants more time to play minecraft

Scenario 4:
You’re a wolf and are hoping for a free lynch today. After a kill from wolves and ED tonight, the wolves would be 3/8 of the town.

 

[Advocate for Ants! Mouth]

Tommy are you or do you possess an evil dick?

 

[Jawneh]

@Jawneh, you are being summoned for questioning.

Where were you on 9/11?

We need more details here man. Like what year, what time of the day, and are we using an shortened m/d format or d/m format.

Does @Jawneh know anything?

Anything? Arguable.

Something? Quite possible.

Relevant? Fuck no lol.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

We need more details here man. Like what year, what time of the day, and are we using an shortened m/d format or d/m format.

The tone of these rules seem inconsistent.

 

[Jawneh]

The tone of these rules seem inconsistent.

I don't make the rules, I just follow them.

Unless it's my own self imposed rules. Those are ironclad. Can't break those.

 

[shortkut]

I don't make the rules, I just follow them.

Unless it's my own self imposed rules. Those are ironclad. Can't break those.

 

[Advocate for Ants! Mouth]

@Jawneh why you wolf? If not wolf, why you are what you are?

 

[shortkut]

@Jawneh why you wolf? If not wolf, why you are what you are?

Why you turn into wolf to play games?

 

[Jawneh]

Currently, I am only responding to @'s and quotes.

It's perfect in a way since none can call me a passenger. If they do, it's their fault for not getting my attention in the first place.

@Jawneh why you wolf? If not wolf, why you are what you are?

 

[VashTheStampede]

I typed "gif" into the gif search

I'm insane

 

[Fool's Requiem]

 

[Tommy Boy]

Hey @Tommy Boy, are you a wolf or the evil detective?

Well if I wasn't sure before, I'm definitely sure YOU are the Evil Detective. Two can play this game! (I'm not sure about anything actually)

And if so, who was the other suspect or did you only check one person

I'm thinking she checked me and herself.

Kat said they will answer questions after Tommy answers though I also don't know wht difference that makes espically if Kat thinks/knows Tommy is a wolf or solo killer I doubt any defense will change Kat's mind

Exactly, first claim out the gate is hard to contest. But her claim is as strong as my claim - denying her accusation of either role.

It's because Tommy can be hilarious and I want to have fun.

Can be

fair enough. these first few days might be rough for me since I never played Wolf/mafia with you guys before so it is gonna be hard for me to get a read on any of you really

All good, you'll see very quickly how I am the best at this game and Benzine really needs help from others.

I don't think there are any roles that can target two people and have one of them be yourself.

You have avidly studied the role list (either in the past or before this game) to ignore the fact that an Evil Detective (the role you're accusing me of) can target themselves. HMMMMMMMMM KAT HMMMMMM.

Tommy are you or do you possess an evil dick?

Please refer all penis inquiries to @Ants!

Currently, I am only responding to @'s and quotes.

It's perfect in a way since none can call me a passenger. If they do, it's their fault for not getting my attention in the first place.

This guy's a fuckin wolf.

 

[Jawneh]

This guy's a fuckin wolf.

Did you read the second half of the post you quoted me from? That has the answer. Alu was way ahead of you.

 

[Advocate for Ants! Mouth]

I'm thinking she checked me and herself.

Evil Dick killed someone last night, and therefore could not have checked themselves against you (otherwise you would be the dead one).

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Evil Dick killed someone last night, and therefore could not have checked themselves against you (otherwise you would be the dead one).

Alu, are you the Evil Richard?

 

[Advocate for Ants! Mouth]

Alu, are you the Evil Richard?

My dad's name is Richard, but mine is not.

 

[Kat]

Okay so I did not review the roles before this game so it'd been a while since I looked at them. After reviewing them, I can say Tommy is a wolf because he has an evil aura and apparently all SKs have a different aura.

I did actually try to check two people but Zell said no because my role does not allow that.

@Jawneh thoughts?

 

[Advocate for Ants! Mouth]

Why you turn into wolf to play games?

Wolf Order is a good boy. He play tug and has only attacked the undead.

 

[Jawneh]

Okay so I did not review the roles before this game so it'd been a while since I looked at them. After reviewing them, I can say Tommy is a wolf because he has an evil aura and apparently all SKs have a different aura.

I did actually try to check two people but Zell said no because my role does not allow that.

@Jawneh thoughts?

Thems are the rules. Zell has a lot of those.

Oh yeah, as a side note, voting Benzine.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Voting update:

I think Alu is the Evil Dick, voted him immediately. No concrete information.

Kut voted Alu, too. No idea why, probably a rando day 1 vote. Don't expect him to change his vote unless he intends to change the way he plays.

Alu voted the Dead Body. As you do.

@Jawneh voted Benzine. As he does.

Kat and Tommy:

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Did I post that just so I could use the Spiderman pointing gif?

 

[Advocate for Ants! Mouth]

I think Alu is the Evil Dick, voted him immediately. No concrete information.

Do you have cement information?

Kut voted Alu, too. No idea why, probably a rando day 1 vote.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Do you have cement information?

My information is asphalt.

 

[Advocate for Ants! Mouth]

Information is ass and you are at fault. Asphalt.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

i'm going to dennys. No one do anything dumb like voting the Fool again.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Information is ass and you are at fault. Asphalt.

i knew there had to be some kind of ass wordplay, but I was too lazy to put some thought into it.

 

[Advocate for Ants! Mouth]

i knew there had to be some kind of ass wordplay, but I was too lazy to put some thought into it.

It was a good assist.

 

[rktaker]

sos o far the only thing we have to go on is Kat claiming that she checked Tommy Boy and he has an evil aura. and that’s about it, and something about lazy ass wordplay

 

[Tommy Boy]

Okay so I did not review the roles before this game so it'd been a while since I looked at them.

psh

After reviewing them, I can say Tommy is a wolf because he has an evil aura and apparently all SKs have a different aura.

PSH

I did actually try to check two people but Zell said no because my role does not allow that.

@Jawneh thoughts?

You're either bluffing and are not a spirit seer, easily claiming to check number one; or you are a spirit seer and checked me and saw red. Since it's impossible for you to have seen red by checking me, I'm going to have to assume the former.

 

[Advocate for Ants! Mouth]

*ahem*

She said "evil aura" - Spirit Seer doesn't show Aura.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

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I'm the bell ringer.

 

[shortkut]

 

[Fool's Requiem]

*ahem*

She said "evil aura" - Spirit Seer doesn't show Aura.

I'd like to point out that besides Bell Ringer, Aura Seer is the easiest roll to claim as a wolfie.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

batman

 

[Advocate for Ants! Mouth]

I'd like to point out that besides Bell Ringer, Aura Seer is the easiest roll to claim as a wolfie.

So you claim Bell Ringer and then immediately say it's the easiest to claim when you're a wolf?

 

[rktaker]

So you claim Bell Ringer and then immediately say it's the easiest to claim when you're a wolf?

I think Fool was saying that as a joke....I think anyway otherwise that would be a foolish thing to do

 

[Fool's Requiem]

So you claim Bell Ringer and then immediately say it's the easiest to claim when you're a wolf?

good point

I'm the Alpha Wolf.

 

[Advocate for Ants! Mouth]

good point

I'm the Alpha Wolf.

Okay that makes more sense.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

I think Fool was saying that as a joke....I think anyway otherwise that would be a foolish thing to do

I like the new guy already

 

[Kat]

i'm going to dennys. No one do anything dumb like voting the Fool again.

I've not checked the wolf roles in a while, but last I did, wolves could not make somebody appear evil the first night. If that's still true, Tommy is definitely not the fool.

I'd like to point out that besides Bell Ringer, Aura Seer is the easiest roll to claim as a wolfie.

It's easy because you can just claim you didn't happen to check an evil person because you are oh so unlucky. I'm giving you an evil person on day one. There is no motivation for me to lie, it'll be obvious as soon as he dies. Trading one townie for a wolf isn't worth it. SK is still alive, and there are probably killing roles out there. I likely wouldn't make it through the night.

Both Tommy Boy and kut have been pushing the idea that I'm spirit seer despite my saying nothing of the sort.And note Tommy didn't deny being evil. He didn't even deny being involved in a murder. He just said he wouldn't show as red.

Who are you going to believe?

 

[shortkut]

Both Tommy Boy and kut have been pushing the idea that I'm spirit seer despite my saying nothing of the sort.And note Tommy didn't deny being evil. He didn't even deny being involved in a murder. He just said he wouldn't show as red.

I pushed that idea when you weren’t giving any information. It was the only way to latch onto tommy while also asking if he was the evil detective. I assumed you knew the evil detective didn’t have the same aura as wolves. I don’t read and even I knew that.

Don’t pull an Alu and start gaslighting to change history. If I didn’t believe you to be the aura seer, I’d switch my vote from Alu to you right now

 

[Kat]

Ooo so combative. I know who I'm checking tonight - and who you all should be suspicious of if I die.

 

[shortkut]

Ooo so combative. I know who I'm checking tonight - and who you all should be suspicious of if I die.

I’m always combative with you. Go back and check every wolf game. You say or do something that makes no logical sense to me and then don’t understand why I find it suspicious or question you.

@A Gradient , @Fool's Requiem you two read things and are the longest tenured wolf players: when @Kat asked Tommy if he was SK or wolf, on a night when both killed, you assumed she was hinting at SS because the other roles would be aura based and not confused with each other. She also wouldn’t risk calling out a good unknown aura player if she was good. If you don’t see how I can jump to that conclusion, you can each control my vote (alternating based on who responds first) for as long as I am alive

 

[Tommy Boy]

I've not checked the wolf roles in a while, but last I did, wolves could not make somebody appear evil the first night. If that's still true, Tommy is definitely not the fool.

Yeah I don't think a fool exists here.

It's easy because you can just claim you didn't happen to check an evil person because you are oh so unlucky. I'm giving you an evil person on day one. There is no motivation for me to lie, it'll be obvious as soon as he dies.

I'd be totally on board with this idea if I wasn't the target of said idea.

Trading one townie for a wolf isn't worth it. SK is still alive, and there are probably killing roles out there. I likely wouldn't make it through the night.

Everyone that claims seer says this so someone will protect them or something. Valid I guess.

Both Tommy Boy and kut have been pushing the idea that I'm spirit seer despite my saying nothing of the sort.

I meant Aura Seer the whole time but kept saying spirit seer so that's my bad. I do believe you have a role that can see and picked number 1 because why not, but there are a few roles that can see and not all of them are good.

And note Tommy didn't deny being evil. He didn't even deny being involved in a murder.

I thought my outright denial of your claim was enough to cover those bases, but if I need to be explicit, I'm not evil and was not involved in a murder.

He just said he wouldn't show as red.

^

Who are you going to believe?

I'll say it again - the issue here is I'd believe what you're going on about if I wasn't the target. But now I feel like because you came to this conclusion early, I'm already fighting an uphill battle. I can't prove my innocence the same way you can't prove my guilt without me dying. It's logically concluded that no matter what, based on the first claim, I now have to die in order to prove something that may or may not be true.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Great job team I think I have all the information I need

 

[Fool's Requiem]

If you are an Aura Seer and you use your ability on the Evil Dick, they will comeback as an Unknown aura. If you are a Spirit Seer and you happen to use your ability on a Wolf or SK, they will come back as red. If you ask someone if they are Wolf or Richard, others are going to assume you are working on claming SS, not AS.

Now, I still can never remember how fucking Confusion Wolf messes with Seer reports, so don't ask me about the possibilities there.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Great job team I think I have all the information I need

gunner's bout to lay down the law