Zell Wolf Tough shit

[A Vaguely Ambiguous Username]

Now that Benzine is also not following the plan, it could be very easy for Tommy to say Benzine is clearly lying.

 

[Zell 17]

Alright we're coming back up

 

[TD]

Well we got 3 unproven townies and shortkut.

 

[Raine]

Everyone's straight up lying at this point.

The question on Tommy's end still moves from "why Local" to "why Jumpman" - same problem.

 

[TD]

 

[Raine]

And there's the double down. RIP.

 

[TD]

Benzine isn't even gonna concede he didn't check Tommy. Smart.

 

[Kat]

Poor Tommy. I can't imagine how stressful it is to be the last wolf.

 

[Raine]

Look at it this way.

If they fail to lynch Tommy, at least Jon finally gets his theory about being eaten by wolves validated.

 

[TD]

How is no one gonna be like Jon still failed every protection.

 

[A Vaguely Ambiguous Username]

Benzine isn't even gonna concede he didn't check Tommy. Smart.

100%. He's just got to go with it and hope for the best.

 

[TD]

Jon might second guess Ben coming in too hot.

His 2 yellows are the only ones left.

 

[Raine]

How is no one gonna be like Jon still failed every protection.

Removing all context from this game, it might actually be more suspicious if he suddenly succeeded.

 

[Kat]

How is no one gonna be like Jon still failed every protection.

Not much mystery there when he keeps posting who he's going to protect. Which is also sus AF. I'd probably suspect Jon the most right now.

 

[A Vaguely Ambiguous Username]

How is no one gonna be like Jon still failed every protection.

Jon was supposed to save Benzine last night, so there's the excuse right there. The earlier ones? Weird stuff.

 

[A Vaguely Ambiguous Username]

Not much mystery there when he keeps posting who he's going to protect. Which is also sus AF. I'd probably suspect Jon the most right now.

Well this past night was supposed to be Benzine checks Tommy and Jon protects Benzine to ensure there's a read.

But everyone but Jon apparently abandoned the original plan when Dean lied about lying about being the avenger.

 

[TD]

Jon was supposed to save Benzine last night, so there's the excuse right there. The earlier ones? Weird stuff.

But like.. how convenient is it that he protected me twice, knew about wolf seer/blind, and has never succeeded.

Also Jawneh told him to protect Tommy and he randomly chose me.

 

[A Vaguely Ambiguous Username]

If Jon and Kut assume Benzine followed through on the plan then they'll vote Tommy. We'll see if Tommy can talk them out of it.

 

[TD]

What're the chances Tommy just goes quiet and then it's up to kut lmao

 

[A Vaguely Ambiguous Username]

But like.. how convenient is it that he protected me twice, knew about wolf seer/blind, and has never succeeded.

Also Jawneh told him to protect Tommy and he randomly chose me.

He's just a bad doctor, it turns out

 

[TD]

Between Tommy asking for a check and Local saying there's no Voodoo, Jon's head is probably spinning of frame job.

 

[TD]

C'mon Tommy, accuse Benzine of not checking you.

 

[Zell 17]

@Local Hero
@Jawneh
@Dean

All here now.

 

[Dean]

I tried. Sorry @Jawneh. I really thought it was you.

 

[Jawneh]

Fucking Dean man lol

 

[TD]

More company!

 

[Jawneh]

Only 8 pages. How conservative.

 

[Local Hero]

Bahahaha

 

[TD]

Y'all shoulda just kill him Day 2 cause I would've been gone.

Hindsight sucks.

 

[Kat]

Let's see if Tommy can pull off his typical passionate speech about how he's been helping the town and is so bad at lying, which always convinces everyone

 

[Zell 17]

Let's see if Tommy can pull off his typical passionate speech about how he's been helping the town and is so bad at lying, which always convinces everyone

Right?

You've been building up all that capital over several games, now's the time to cash it in

 

[Dean]

I would be impressed

 

[TD]

Post in thread 'GWF Zell Wolf - Version IX - Day 5' https://gwforums.com/threads/gwf-zell-wolf-version-ix-day-5.1320/post-74638

 

[TD]

If Tommy does this I'm going to lose it and be so happy for him.

 

[Raine]

Y'all shoulda just kill him Day 2 cause I would've been gone.

Hindsight sucks.

As funny as it would have been, I like the game we have more.

But y'all need to learn more lessons from Auntie Derp here. Sometimes the best course of action is to just let yourself get smothered.

If @Dean does the exact same thing he did here, but he simply... removes his target? I think the result is the same but the town has +1 advantage. You remove a tool the wolves are relying on and make them eat dirt.

Benzine breaking rank notwithstanding.

 

[Local Hero]

Btw, my rationale for me "the last wolf isn't voodoo" was to throw more chaos in the mix. Especially as no one would be voodooed today and there would be one more theoretical use left, it would make it seem like there was no voodoo and Tommy was clearly lying.

So basically, a "we don't know what to believe" scenario

 

[Dean]

As funny as it would have been, I like the game we have more.

But y'all need to learn more lessons from Auntie Derp here. Sometimes the best course of action is to just let yourself get smothered.

If @Dean does the exact same thing he did here, but he simply... removes his target? I think the result is the same but the town has +1 advantage. You remove a tool the wolves are relying on and make them eat dirt.

Benzine breaking rank notwithstanding.

Fuck that, I wanted to use my one power

 

[TD]

Btw, my rationale for me "the last wolf isn't voodoo" was to throw more chaos in the mix. Especially as no one would be voodooed today and there would be one more theoretical use left, it would make it seem like there was no voodoo and Tommy was clearly lying.

So basically, a "we don't know what to believe" scenario

I figured.

That's all we talked about. Chaos. And you did good.

It's come down to this and they don't know.

 

[TD]

 

[Local Hero]

Can there be a seers apprentice without a seer? In other words, if Tommy is saying Benzine is a wolf, there are no other seer roles, so they're shouldn't be an apprentice?

 

[Zell 17]

The problem with having the town wait a day is it guarantees a loss if the last wolf is alpha

 

[Raine]

Can there be a seers apprentice without a seer? In other words, if Tommy is saying Benzine is a wolf, there are no other seer roles, so they're shouldn't be an apprentice?

Zell wants us to believe it's possible, yes.

 

[Zell 17]

Can there be a seers apprentice without a seer?

Yes, but it’s unlikely

 

[TD]

The problem with having the town wait a day is it guarantees a loss if the last wolf is alpha

That and the one Tommy and Jon are leaning suggests it.

Let's say they do.

Kill kut.

If he was protected, back to where they are.

If they do it.

 

[Jawneh]

Dude I was up until 5am and couldn't sleep.

Like it legit gave me anxiety.

Being part of team instigator is similar man. Slightly different, but very same vibes. So... yeah.

Slowly going through the thread reading things. Whee.

Soon after kut came out as the cupid I did try to think who he would put up as being the couple. I had it between Vash/Alu/Benzine/TD, then dropped TD off of it later during day 2. I'd have to go back again, but there was something Vash said that confirmed he was one of them to me. Maybe it was whatever him and TD were talking about. So it was him and then Alu or Benzine as my guesses.

Back to reading.

 

[TD]

...is kut honing in on Jon?

 

[Raine]

Option paralysis and all this talk of being passive for a day is boring.

Needs more immediate death and destruction.

The person that spends entirely too much time thinking and overthinking is telling other people to think less. Lemme go work on chores and maybe they'll have done something by the time I finished.

 

[Kat]

Soon after kut came out as the cupid I did try to think who he would put up as being the couple. I had it between Vash/Alu/Benzine/TD, then dropped TD off of it later during day 2. I'd have to go back again, but there was something Vash said that confirmed he was one of them to me. Maybe it was whatever him and TD were talking about. So it was him and then Alu or Benzine as my guesses.

Back to reading.

I've been thinking about who would make a good couple. TD always gets killed, so that seems like a bad option. Vash and Alu both tend to live a long time, so I see why kut picked them.

 

[Jawneh]

Went to the day thread quick. What the hell is everyone doing?! Just stick to my plan. Or don't vote today and do my plan again today and we win. You'd think after I died and came back as townie it'd make sense to go as I had planned, barring weird last wolf role shenanigans. (I did check the spoiler for the last wolf.)

 

[Local Hero]

Went to the day thread quick. What the hell is everyone doing?! Just stick to my plan. Or don't vote today and do my plan again today and we win. You'd think after I died and came back as townie it'd make sense to go as I had planned, barring weird last wolf role shenanigans. (I did check the spoiler for the last wolf.)

At this point no one remembers any plan because of all the chaos