Zell Wolf Tough shit

[TD]

Also I just noticed I 100% slipped on Day 1 to Jon lmao

 

[TD]

"Skips (6 required):

Jawneh, Jon, shortkut"

See a reasonable town should be all over this. You got two guys who have made claims with no action and Cupid.

I mean they're gonna end up being right but man if no one points it out.

 

[Smacktard]

"Skips (6 required):

Jawneh, Jon, shortkut"

See a reasonable town should be all over this. You got two guys who have made claims with no action and Cupid.

I mean they're gonna end up being right but man if no one points it out.

Yeah it seems illogical that the town is going after claims with more evidence instead of claims with less evidence.

Jawneh's done nothing, Jon's done nothing (as a DOCTOR who is now announcing who he will protect), and shortkut got Raine lynched

 

[TD]

Yeah it seems illogical that the town is going after claims with more evidence instead of claims with less evidence.

Jawneh's done nothing, Jon's done nothing (as a DOCTOR who is now announcing who he will protect), and shortkut got Raine lynched

Zell in the sign up thread:

Remember the new optimum wolf strategy: Do absolutely nothing and let the town set themselves on fire.

 

[Smacktard]

The town on the path to victory

 

[Smacktard]

If I'm Tommy, I'm trying to sell either Jon or Dean now. Leverage the fact that 5 people have voted for Local, so that one of them has to be a wolf -- even if it's just a wolf voting with the crowd to cover their tracks. Dean and Jon are the only two that haven't done anything for the town.

 

[TD]

There's such a case for Jon too.

No action and keeps claiming he'll die.
Attacked me, but backed off quick.
Wasn't part of the 4 that voted for Kelly.
Came flying in knowing about a blind wolf/seer combo and suddenly trusts me.
Tries to lead a Bandwagon away from Kelly onto Local but fails
Ultimately concedes and joins as vote 6 when minimum is already met
TD dead
Oh no I was protecting him good thing avenger bypasses doctor

 

[A Vaguely Ambiguous Username]

If I'm Tommy, I'm trying to sell either Jon or Dean now. Leverage the fact that 5 people have voted for Local, so that one of them has to be a wolf -- even if it's just a wolf voting with the crowd to cover their tracks. Dean and Jon are the only two that haven't done anything for the town.

But there are 5 non-wolves around, so there doesn't have to be a wolf in that number. If Tommy says that they'll probably just ding him for it.

Talking about Jon being sus is the better play.

 

[Smacktard]

But there are 5 non-wolves around, so there doesn't have to be a wolf in that number. If Tommy says that they'll probably just ding him for it.

Talking about Jon being sus is the better play.

Yes but most of the remaining players seem to believe Tommy is innocent, and the point is that if Tommy truly believes he's a townie, it doesn't make sense to vote with townies + one other wolf

 

[Smacktard]

But there are 5 non-wolves around, so there doesn't have to be a wolf in that number. If Tommy says that they'll probably just ding him for it.

Talking about Jon being sus is the better play.

Think of it this way:

• 5/7 people voted for someone
• There are two wolves left
• You're part of the 2/7 that haven't voted yet
• You KNOW you're not a wolf

Do you go along with the bandwagon and assume that a wolf has voted for a wolf-mate?

 

[VashTheStampede]

That's usually about the time Vash's patented "Oh Shit Oh Fuck" second guessing powers kick in

 

[Smacktard]

That's usually about the time Vash's patented "Oh Shit Oh Fuck" second guessing powers kick in

Wish we had just a bit more of that during this game

 

[A Vaguely Ambiguous Username]

Think of it this way:

• 5/7 people voted for someone
• There are two wolves left
• You're part of the 2/7 that haven't voted yet
• You KNOW you're not a wolf

Do you go along with the bandwagon and assume that a wolf has voted for a wolf-mate?

At this point when there's pretty big doubt of a voodoo wolf they they've discussed?

I said earlier, before I died I was basically sold on Local being a wolf. Even if there's one wolf that might be voting for him I'd still vote for him because of that. It would get it down to one wolf remaining and buy more time to finish it off.

 

[Smacktard]

At this point when there's pretty big doubt of a voodoo wolf they they've discussed?

I said earlier, before I died I was basically sold on Local being a wolf. Even if there's one wolf that might be voting for him I'd still vote for him because of that. It would get it down to one wolf remaining and buy more time to finish it off.

I'm not saying it's a foolproof strategy, but do you see any other viable path to victory for the wolves?

I can't imagine Tommy has a chance of winning if he goes along with voting off Local.

 

[A Vaguely Ambiguous Username]

I'm not saying it's a foolproof strategy, but do you see any other viable path to victory for the wolves?

I can't imagine Tommy has a chance of winning if he goes along with voting off Local.

There really isn't one other than sowing discord. I just wouldn't be swayed (personally), especially since the plan has Tommy being checked tonight. It would be the person who stands to be cleared tomorrow arguing against the plan.

 

[VashTheStampede]

In b4 Jon protects Tommy tonight

 

[A Vaguely Ambiguous Username]

Lmao Tommy voted for Local and skipped. That's probably game.

 

[A Vaguely Ambiguous Username]

MVP kut for doing a funny couple that led to other people making the moves while he sat mostly idly by.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Playing wolf be like

 

[A Vaguely Ambiguous Username]

I guess at this point Tommy can hope Jon decides to not protect Benzine, wolf kill Benzine. Then Tommy vanishes again tomorrow with another "voodoo" while everyone suddenly turns on Jon for not protecting Benzine.

 

[Zell 17]

A more plausible path for the wolves for me is:

Lynch Local
Kill Dean who tags Jawneh
Village chooses poorly between Jon, Benzine, or Tommy

 

[Smacktard]

A more plausible path for the wolves for me is:

Lynch Local
Kill Dean who tags Jawneh
Village chooses poorly between Jon, Benzine, or Tommy

This is what I was thinking, but it's a hell of a longshot -- especially if Benzine is checking Tommy tonight. I think it's game over already

 

[Zell 17]

This is what I was thinking, but it's a hell of a longshot -- especially if Benzine is checking Tommy tonight. I think it's game over already

Yeah it probably comes down to a credibility battle between Benzine and Tommy. That's where I think the Voodoo wolf bit hurts, no other townie can claim to have been muted. But it's not a lock, it's not like Benzine has a strong wall of credibility and people don't think Tommy can lie.

 

[Raine]

Came flying in knowing about a blind wolf/seer combo and suddenly trusts me.

It's this, honestly. This, this, and somehow even more of this.

Jon is on the record multiple times over not knowing shit about shit when it comes to roles. He straight-up didn't know Spirit Seer existed in the last game, and only understood Violinist after it was mentioned and he looked it up.

But now not only does he know about Blind Wolf and Wolf Seer, he's demonstrating remarkable clairvoyance? That's... well, that's kind of suspicious now ain't it? Almost like maybe he's been coached.

And who has he been arguing with the entire game? Oh my, it's TD. And both TD and Jon, despite arguing, haven't tried super hard to lynch one another? Hmm. Oh and TD blatantly false cleared two wolves with his false Spirit Seer ability? HMMM?! (Edit: Well in the context of trying to save Local it'd be one, but still)

That might have worked.

It would be a little shitty to undermine Jon like that given his progress, but well... that's also sort of how the game works. Don't just use people's weaknesses against them, undermine and subvert their strengths too!

 

[A Vaguely Ambiguous Username]

A more plausible path for the wolves for me is:

Lynch Local
Kill Dean who tags Jawneh
Village chooses poorly between Jon, Benzine, or Tommy

Jawneh would be revealed as apprentice which would validate Benzine as violinist. If Benzine is tagging Tommy then Benzine needs to die before revealing or Jawneh needs to not be revealed.

 

[TD]

And the seeds of doubt about Jon & Benzine were just placed, this could be an interesting final day phase.

It'll be interesting when Local dies and is shown as Wolf Seer which suddenly matches his wild ass theory.

Plue his whole Day 1 with me about openly discussing strategy.

Realistically it should cause down and Dean & Jawneh dying after talking about it will add more cadence.

Plus Jon just did it.

This is my dream.

 

[TD]

Jawneh would be revealed as apprentice which would validate Benzine as violinist. If Benzine is tagging Tommy then Benzine needs to die before revealing or Jawneh needs to not be revealed.

How so?

Jawneh as Apprentice does not clear Benzine.

It's too bad no one will go back to Vash's list lol

 

[TD]

I've talked about this before, but it's my #1 strategy every game. Cultivate the right amount of sus.

I just go balls to the wall every game.

 

[TD]

Fwiw though - I think Tommy is doing fantastic.

His first reaction in the wolf chat was "fuck", called himself the weakest wolf, and wanted us to kill him. We refused. He sells himself short but he's improved so much.

....#TeamTommy

 

[TD]

The biggest reason I want Tommy to pull it off is the confidence boost.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Wow, way to corrupt a good soul and turn him into a liar.

 

[TD]

Wow, way to corrupt a good soul and turn him into a liar.

 

[Zell 17]

Jawneh would be revealed as apprentice which would validate Benzine as violinist. If Benzine is tagging Tommy then Benzine needs to die before revealing or Jawneh needs to not be revealed.

How? Just because there is an apprentice doesn't mean that there is any kind of seer.

 

[TD]

Alternate move for Tommy who just laid suspicion on Dean:

Kill Benzine.
No one has him high on sus list.
The more people alive, greater chance of survival.

 

[Smacktard]

Wow, way to corrupt a good soul and turn him into a liar.

This post is going to give him so much anxiety when he sees it

 

[VashTheStampede]

Alternate move for Tommy who just laid suspicion on Dean:

Kill Benzine.
No one has him high on sus list.
The more people alive, greater chance of survival.

If Jon doesn't protect Benzine tonight the sound of my palm hitting my forehead will be deafening.

 

[TD]

If Jon doesn't protect Benzine tonight the sound of my palm hitting my forehead will be deafening.

I mean.

He's protected 3 wolves and 2 townies.
Another argument against him.

 

[Smacktard]

If Jon doesn't protect Benzine tonight the sound of my palm hitting my forehead will be deafening.

There's no point not to, right? It's a flawless play.

 

[Raine]

He sells himself short but he's improved so much.

Absolutely. I'll just be over here continuing to bang the gong that so many good moves have been made this game, and I love it.

Zero regrets about letting you punks murder me again.

 

[Smacktard]

Absolutely. I'll just be over here continuing to bang the gong that so many good moves have been made this game, and I love it.

Zero regrets about letting you punks murder me again.

FWIW I vouched for murdering Vash since night 1

 

[TD]

Zero regrets about letting you punks murder me again.

The wolves wanted to let you be, technically.

 

[A Vaguely Ambiguous Username]

How? Just because there is an apprentice doesn't mean that there is any kind of seer.

Right yeah.

But also I still don't see why people would be sus of Benzine at this point. His pick of Kelly directly led to Kelly being lynched to see if Raposa was a townie or not. He could have picked any townie, other than me or Vash (if he were a wolf), get that person lynched, and then have the town assume Raposa was a wolf.

Gotta remember that TD was the one who suggested the plan to lynch Kelly to make sure a wolf was definitely dead. TD would be gone still, but Kelly would be alive and the town would think it's 2 wolves left instead of 3.

 

[Raine]

The wolves wanted to let you be, technically.

AND YET THEY VOTED FOR ME 'CAUSE THEY'RE MEANIE BUTTFACES

...Because they were very accurate in their assumption that I would murderize townies.

It's very amusing that 0 actions were taken by the Strong Villagers this game.

 

[TD]

AND YET THEY VOTED FOR ME 'CAUSE THEY'RE MEANIE BUTTFACES

You have no idea how close I was to saying "GUYS SHE HINTED JAILER I WAS FUCKING WITH HER" and in hindsight I should've but I digress.

 

[Raine]

You have no idea how close I was to saying "GUYS SHE HINTED JAILER I WAS FUCKING WITH HER" and in hindsight I should've but I digress.

Wait you're telling me they didn't know?

 

[TD]

Wait you're telling me they didn't know?

Nonono I mean in the town chat.

We knew you were Strong, I picked up you were Jailer.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Wait you're telling me they didn't know?

I thought it was bullshit

 

[TD]

Everyone who says they have powers: make sure to target someone tonight appropriately. Benzine, you should be targeting me. Jon, you should be targeting whoever you feel needs to be kept safe to tomorrow. Dean, you should be targeting the person who is most likely wolf in your opinion. Shortkut, hay doods.

I just saw this.

TELLING BENZINE TO TARGET HIM.

 

[Kat]

So over the course of the last two games my mentality has completely flipped 180 degrees.

Even if they both end up in losses, I think I've had really good performances. Absolutely crushing my roles.

I meant to comment on how you used both potions effectively right after using both marksman shots last game. You certainly did your part for the town!

Big same.

But I also thought "how would Zell know someone has been doing this unless the person who was doing this told Zell"

I figured somebody happened to notice and comment on it in the wolf chat, since Zell knew about it.

Bully is an insanely powerful job - it's a disruptor, a killer and a pro-town Word of God. Arguably the last bit is most important, but, it's all solidly "good." There's zero reason to hold off on throwing rocks. You throw 2 at the same person, and you either kill an anti-town or kill a townie in exchange for being declared irrefutably innocent. If there's a protector available and the wolves don't have Berserk, that's game.

Do you think I should've role claimed immediately and thrown a rock and asked for protection? I considered it, but wasn't sure anybody would believe me since a bully was already killed the first night. You know people, "but what're the odds?"

 

[A Vaguely Ambiguous Username]

I just saw this.

TELLING BENZINE TO TARGET HIM.

Lol yeah.