The Agency Day 1

[TD]

If Zell isn't lynched and is good dong, the clear judge target should be Kelly to be real. He's the one who directly called out Zell as evil.

Just making sure that's known. Otherwise he'd be trying to get rid of a more powerful role and could likely end up being the double agent.

This agent always finds it suspicious when another member of the agency tries to direct the actions of another.

Why would you not push for Zell to target Benzine, if you are indeed the Detective?

 

[A PineSol Scent]

This agent always finds it suspicious when another member of the agency tries to direct the actions of another.

Why would you not push for Zell to target Benzine, if you are indeed the Detective?

Because he'd both prove his innocence by taking out a baddie while also proving the other person in the read is bad.

He could go the other way for sure, but Benzine still hasn't even role claimed or tried to direct traffic anywhere. Also, when you're directly called evil by someone and can prove your innocence while also getting rid of that person that tends to be the wisest play.

Going after me would not be the wisest play of the choices outlined, how about we go with that?

 

[TD]

Because he'd both prove his innocence by taking out a baddie while also proving the other person in the read is bad.

He could go the other way for sure, but Benzine still hasn't even role claimed or tried to direct traffic anywhere. Also, when you're directly called evil by someone and can prove your innocence while also getting rid of that person that tends to be the wisest play.

Going after me would not be the wisest play of the choices outlined, how about we go with that?

You have an awful lot of assumptions here.

First, you are assuming the how Smacktard came to be with his information.

Second, Benzine is voting for Zell and maybe he has role claimed.

Third, it sounds an awful lot like you're more concerned about protecting your identity over anything else.

Where has it been said he could go after you? Zell could also use this alleged Judge ability on you, to clear you - which would then give us both Benzine and Smacktard, in theory; right?

 

[shortkut]

Notice how more people are bandwagoning onto Zell? I’m keeping my vote on Jon because I believe he is the vampire, but no one cares

 

[A PineSol Scent]

You have an awful lot of assumptions here.

First, you are assuming the how Smacktard came to be with his information.

Second, Benzine is voting for Zell and maybe he has role claimed.

Third, it sounds an awful lot like you're more concerned about protecting your identity over anything else.

Where has it been said he could go after you? Zell could also use this alleged Judge ability on you, to clear you - which would then give us both Benzine and Smacktard, in theory; right?

Smacktard literally claimed priest.

Benzine has not role claimed

My identity is the detective

My name came up as a judgement choice earlier in the day. Taking out the detective as a way to prove two people are bad that you could prove by taking out one of those two people is a worse plan than taking out one of those two people. He can be innocent through my read, he cannot through Kelly's.

 

[Quagmire]

Where has it been said he could go after you? Zell could also use this alleged Judge ability on you, to clear you - which would then give us both Benzine and Smacktard, in theory; right?

Clearing Alu would be Zells death, better to go after Smacktard or Benzine

Also it was just opposite teams, not both are evil

 

[Quagmire]

Notice how more people are bandwagoning onto Zell? I’m keeping my vote on Jon because I believe he is the vampire, but no one cares

Jon can suck my blood anytime he wants

 

[TD]

Smacktard literally claimed priest.

Benzine has not role claimed

My identity is the detective

My name came up as a judgement choice earlier in the day. Taking out the detective as a way to prove two people are bad that you could prove by taking out one of those two people is a worse plan than taking out one of those two people. He can be innocent through my read, he cannot through Kelly's.

This agent has additional observations.

Smacktard has said a lot of things this phase, including shooting Vash.

I have observed a role claim from Benzine.

If you are the Detective, you have nothing to fear from the Judge as the Judge would die, not you.

 

[TD]

Notice how more people are bandwagoning onto Zell? I’m keeping my vote on Jon because I believe he is the vampire, but no one cares

Quite frankly, if Zell turns out to be the judge, the people not voting him are stronger candidates for mobsters than the ones that are.

 

[shortkut]

Quite frankly, if Zell turns out to be the judge, the people not voting him are stronger candidates for mobsters than the ones that are.

Interesting theory. I’ve seen it spun both ways

 

[Quagmire]

This agent has additional observations.

Smacktard has said a lot of things this phase, including shooting Vash.

Obvious joke vs direct claim

I have observed a role claim from Benzine.

If you are the Detective, you have nothing to fear from the Judge as the Judge would die, not you.

Still imagine rather not another agent die when more likely target available

Quite frankly, if Zell turns out to be the judge, the people not voting him are stronger candidates for mobsters than the ones that are.

Not really, not everyone is Gun ho on day 1 lynch, very little to tell unless a last minute removal of votes to save Zell

 

[A PineSol Scent]

This agent has additional observations.

Smacktard has said a lot of things this phase, including shooting Vash.

I have observed a role claim from Benzine.

If you are the Detective, you have nothing to fear from the Judge as the Judge would die, not you.

I read the judge role wrong. So the choice of me would be bad because he'd kill himself. Even if he's agency I could be the detective. If he's agency smacktard's read can only be possible through the fixer.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Quite frankly, if Zell turns out to be the judge, the people not voting him are stronger candidates for mobsters than the ones that are.

Nah, I don't buy that at all.

I very much don't understand why we don't let him prove his role claim.

 

[shortkut]

Nah, I don't buy that at all.

I very much don't understand why we don't let him prove his role claim.

Because TD is scared that if zell really is the judge, he could target TD randomly and kill him for being a mobster

 

[Fool's Requiem]

I'm not so sure we should put much value in the actions and statements players make on the first day. There isn't much information and what information there is can't be trusted yet. Many of us are just fucking around until we get a feel of things, which isn't happening in this round.

I say if you guys want to vote someone out, do it, and let the information we receive from the voting and subsequent night phase play out. But as it stands, there's no reason to take this too seriously yet.

Also, Kelly has previously stated that he has no interest in taking these games seriously, so I'd take anything he says in these games with a grain of salt. He's likely just goofin'.

 

[TD]

Interesting theory. I’ve seen it spun both ways

This agent specializes in observation.

Based on the criteria of a Detective with a 50/50 chance on Zell and another claiming he is evil, the rational process would be to vote Zell.

Not acting on that suggests one of two things, additional information (such as being a mobster), or self preservation.

You see, whatever their name, mobsters, mafia, wolves, what have you - they have become too paranoid to be involved in the lynching of an innocent. For they fear it'll implicate them. Look no further than our most recent game, where the only baddie to vote dimmerwit Day 1 was his accuser, Zell. The rest refused to vote him.

 

[Benzine]

i wish i had more friends in this game and less friends in real life.

 

[Zell 17]

To be honest I’d probably be fighting harder if I was mob

 

[A PineSol Scent]

@Zell 17 if we jump off you do you already have a judge target in mind?

 

[Zell 17]

@Zell 17 if we jump off you do you already have a judge target in mind?

Kelly obviously

 

[Quagmire]

To be honest I’d probably be fighting harder if I was mob

 

[A PineSol Scent]

Don't want to run into a situation like what happened to me in the last game where things changed too late and I was unable to adjust to prove myself.

 

[TD]

I read the judge role wrong. So the choice of me would be bad because he'd kill himself. Even if he's agency I could be the detective. If he's agency smacktard's read can only be possible through the fixer.

...we are literally voting to lynch him as it is. He is on pace to die, and you're worried about him killing himself?

 

[A PineSol Scent]

Kelly obviously

Okay. With now knowing this judge doesn't work like the one from Vash's game and this, I will jump off and let you prove your claim. If you don't, obvious chopping block material.

 

[A PineSol Scent]

...we are literally voting to lynch him as it is. He is on pace to die, and you're worried about him killing himself?

I'm talking to him about jumping off. If he would target me then it would change nothing about the result other than straight up proving me.

 

[A PineSol Scent]

Your move, everyone else.

 

[Benzine]

I do not like this plan because I am part of the Agency. I do not like the idea of just letting Zell live another day.

The fixer would've had to pick Zell's number? Or just Zell?

 

[Quagmire]

...we are literally voting to lynch him as it is. He is on pace to die, and you're worried about him killing himself?

You talk about past games, not uncommon to have a big lynch target early and then cool off of it, still have over 12 hrs

 

[shortkut]

Your move, everyone else.

I still think Jon is vampire if anyone wants to board my bandwagon of 1

 

[A PineSol Scent]

I do not like this plan because I am part of the Agency. I do not like the idea of just letting Zell live another day.

The fixer would've had to pick Zell's number? Or just Zell?

Number.

 

[Quagmire]

I do not like this plan because I am part of the Agency. I do not like the idea of just letting Zell live another day.

Your words mean nothing now, but I get the point. With two people pointing fingers at him I feel he's a decently safe target

The fixer would've had to pick Zell's number? Or just Zell?

Just a number since it was night 0

 

[Quagmire]

I still think Jon is vampire if anyone wants to board my bandwagon of 1

Any reason why?

 

[TD]

My vote remains on Zell.

It provides information about Alu, Benzine, and Smacktard.

In the event he is a Judge, no big deal.

In the event he is a mobster, we have removed a potentially dangerous one-time-use ability.

In the event he is the Double Agent that drew the Judge ability (ooph), oh well.

 

[A PineSol Scent]

I still think Jon is vampire if anyone wants to board my bandwagon of 1

Technically speaking I'm the one who sucks. But that's not in a productive way so I guess it can't be vampiric in nature.

 

[shortkut]

Any reason why?

 

[Fool's Requiem]

To be honest I’d probably be fighting harder if I was mob

I so seldom die via lynching that I just accept it. I'm so used to dying at night or via SK during the day. I think the last time I got lynched, I won as the Fool.

 

[Benzine]

My words never mean nothing. I'm with TD, voting Zell is key. If he's not the judge, you're just letting him alive for another night and still have no info on me, Kelly, or Alu.

 

[Tommy Boy]

night 0

 

[Fool's Requiem]

 

[A PineSol Scent]

My words never mean nothing. I'm with TD, voting Zell is key. If he's not the judge, you're just letting him alive for another night and still have no info on me, Kelly, or Alu.

If he's not the judge then it stands to reason that he's mob and that the three of us at least have something to show for it. Not sure how it would provide no information if it would validate the two reads.

 

[Jawneh]

@Jawneh and I skirt the rules by giving each other guns so we can shoot people and vampires

Regardless of what you think, I'm not one to skirt the rules.

That'd ruin the integrity of Gunta Claus.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

I hope Tommy is the SK and makes it his goal to slay anyone who says "night 0".








oh fuck, I said "night 0," my goose is cooked

 

[Benzine]

If he's not the judge then it stands to reason that he's mob and that the three of us at least have something to show for it. Not sure how it would provide no information if it would validate the two reads.

You believe one of us to be not a good guy, and for this post let's just say it definitely is Zell (which it is).

If Vampire, he bites tonight - that is not good for the town statistically.

Godfather - not massively different I guess

Consig - better to use a thing today, right? But marginal.

Hitman - wouldn't want them to be able to use that, would be better gone

Fixer - definitely want this to be unused, i doubt they used it night 1 (@Tommy Boy can confirm)

Lookout - definitely want this gone too.

Why don't you want him to die? It gives us info and stops him from doing something bad.

 

[Ben]

oh fuck, I said "night 0," my goose is cooked

Untitled Goose role found.

Honestly I'd have expected that to be Quagmire.

 

[shortkut]

Regardless of what you think, I'm not one to skirt the rules.

That'd ruin the integrity of Gunta Claus.

So what I’m hearing is, you are not really an armorer and I am the only armorer here

 

[Quagmire]

Untitled Goose role found.

Honestly I'd have expected that to be Quagmire.

My goose dont get cooked, he flies free

 

[VashTheStampede]

You believe one of us to be not a good guy, and for this post let's just say it definitely is Zell (which it is).

If Vampire, he bites tonight - that is not good for the town statistically.

Godfather - not massively different I guess

Consig - better to use a thing today, right? But marginal.

Hitman - wouldn't want them to be able to use that, would be better gone

Fixer - definitely want this to be unused, i doubt they used it night 1 (@Tommy Boy can confirm)

Lookout - definitely want this gone too.

Why don't you want him to die? It gives us info and stops him from doing something bad.

This is a convincing argument

 

[Jawneh]

So what I’m hearing is, you are not really an armorer and I am the only armorer here

Obviously I'm Gunta Claus.

To be honest, I could posit the same argument to you. I don't know for sure if you are an armorer yourself and want my gun to shoot me yourself. I might be having a goof with my role, but I'm also fishing for information from people.

 

[shortkut]

Obviously I'm Gunta Claus.

To be honest, I could posit the same argument to you. I don't know for sure if you are an armorer yourself and want my gun to shoot me yourself. I might be having a goof with my role, but I'm also fishing for information from people.

I trust you enough to not use a gun on me if u give you a gun. If I give you one, would you reciprocate

 

[Christina]

I but wonder if the givers of guns can give each other guns? Would they be able to use the other gun or would they have but to give that gun away too?