The Agency Day 1

[Fool's Requiem]

You believe one of us to be not a good guy, and for this post let's just say it definitely is Zell (which it is).

If Vampire, he bites tonight - that is not good for the town statistically.

Godfather - not massively different I guess

Consig - better to use a thing today, right? But marginal.

Hitman - wouldn't want them to be able to use that, would be better gone

Fixer - definitely want this to be unused, i doubt they used it night 1 (@Tommy Boy can confirm)

Lookout - definitely want this gone too.

Why don't you want him to die? It gives us info and stops him from doing something bad.

I'm not going to say "don't vote Zell" but if we had a jailer, they could jail him and keep him from doing stuff.

Note: I'm not the Jailer.

 

[A PineSol Scent]

This is a convincing argument

Yup, much better than "we'll find nothing out on the others"

 

[Benzine]

I'm not going to say "don't vote Zell" but if we had a jailer, they could jail him and keep him from doing stuff.

Note: I'm not the Jailer.

learned your lesson did you?

 

[shortkut]

I but wonder if the givers of guns can give each other guns? Would they be able to use the other gun or would they have but to give that gun away too?

The rules do not specifically state that we cannot use guns in general just that we have to give our gun to someone else so if he gives me a gun, it is not my gun. I am just borrowing his gun so I should be able to use it.

 

[Christina]

The rules do not specifically state that we cannot use guns in general just that we have to give our gun to someone else so if he gives me a gun, it is not my gun. I am just borrowing his gun so I should be able to use it.

So you know how to use guns but you don't know how to use your own gun. Interesting.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

learned your lesson did you?

 

[TD]

Notable vote data information for the Zell bandwagon:

First 5:
Ben, Jawneh, Smacktard, TD, Alu*
(*later removed)

6: Benzine
7: Quagmire
8: Kat
(Requirement met)
9: dimmerwit
(Alu removes) - down to 8
9: Vash

Use this as you will if I die.

 

[shortkut]

So you know how to use guns but you don't know how to use your own gun. Interesting.

It is not a lack of knowledge that prevents me from using my own gun. It is just prohibited by the rules. I do not agree with the rules, but I am a law, abiding citizen.

 

[Christina]

Notable vote data information for the Zell bandwagon:

First 5:
Ben, Jawneh, Smacktard, TD, Alu*
(*later removed)

6: Benzine
7: Quagmire
8: Kat
(Requirement met)
9: dimmerwit
(Alu removes) - down to 8
9: Vash

Use this as you will if I die.

See now this feels like an intimidation tactic. You make an argument for us to kill the Zell, but now if we vote for him we are made to feel as though we are suspicious. So it makes me not wish to vote for the Zell, which you also say is suspicious. I dare say, one cannot win. Do you wish for the Zell's death or no?

this is what you all get when I watch Bridgerton

 

[shortkut]

See now this feels like an intimidation tactic. You make an argument for us to kill the Zell, but now if we vote for him we are made to feel as though we are suspicious. So it makes me not wish to vote for the Zell, which you also say is suspicious. I dare say, one cannot win. Do you wish for the Zell's death or no?

this is what you all get when I watch Bridgerton

I knew I heard it both ways

 

[Zell 17]

For what it’s worth I completely agree with Benzine you should vote me here

 

[TD]

See now this feels like an intimidation tactic. You make an argument for us to kill the Zell, but now if we vote for him we are made to feel as though we are suspicious. So it makes me not wish to vote for the Zell, which you also say is suspicious. I dare say, one cannot win. Do you wish for the Zell's death or no?

this is what you all get when I watch Bridgerton

Voting patterns are some of the most critical information that you can use and it almost always paints a story.

The order of which people came in to vote is relevant, no matter what Zell turns up as.

It's worth noting who moved the needle and who came on when it was settled. It does not necessarily condemn you, but it's a consideration.

 

[shortkut]

Voting patterns are some of the most critical information that you can use and it almost always paints a story.

The order of which people came in to vote is relevant, no matter what Zell turns up as.

It's worth noting who moved the needle and who came on when it was settled. It does not necessarily condemn you, but it's a consideration.

@Christina Translation:
If you did not vote for zell you are guilty
If you did vote for zell you are guilty unless you voted at the correct time
The correct time would be the first 5 voters, with a very specific caveat
That caveat is that you must not have moved your vote even once.

Only the people that for those criteria are innocent

 

[Benzine]

For what it’s worth I completely agree with Benzine you should vote me here

hm

 

[TD]

@Christina Translation:
If you did not vote for zell you are guilty
If you did vote for zell you are guilty unless you voted at the correct time
The correct time would be the first 5 voters, with a very specific caveat
That caveat is that you must not have moved your vote even once.

Only the people that for those criteria are innocent

This is why I merely presented the data and did not offer an interpretation, it's fascinating how people will interpret what the information means.

 

[Christina]

Voting patterns are some of the most critical information that you can use and it almost always paints a story.

The order of which people came in to vote is relevant, no matter what Zell turns up as.

It's worth noting who moved the needle and who came on when it was settled. It does not necessarily condemn you, but it's a consideration.

But one must always take into account the normal voting patterns that each individual may have. I for example, rarely vote and move my vote around. I do not wish to give to much away in my thoughts with my voting, so I tend to wait till later to start making my choice known. While others make joke votes, or move the votes all over at ever whim.

 

[shortkut]

This is why I merely presented the data and did not offer an interpretation, it's fascinating how people will interpret what the information means.

Says the person who said anyone not voting zell was suspicious.

You can have your cake and eat it too when I give a gun to the first person who promises to shoot you

 

[shortkut]

But one must always take into account the normal voting patterns that each individual may have. I for example, rarely vote and move my vote around. I do not wish to give to much away in my thoughts with my voting, so I tend to wait till later to start making my choice known. While others make joke votes, or move the votes all over at ever whim.

Oh snap! Confounding variables!

 

[A PineSol Scent]

I'll stay as is with my vote for now, but will log in before the final tally to be sure. Don't want to make too many moves and show up on "that's Vash level of indecision" charts

 

[TD]

But one must always take into account the normal voting patterns that each individual may have. I for example, rarely vote and move my vote around. I do not wish to give to much away in my thoughts with my voting, so I tend to wait till later to start making my choice known. While others make joke votes, or move the votes all over at ever whim.

Oh absolutely, which is why I just responded to kut as I did. I did not share my interpretation of what it means, I'll leave that for others to do if they wish. There is value in vote data, always has been, always wil be, it's up to others how they'll use that data.

As someone who people will typically not trust, I'll continue to present observations and data. People can do with it what they want. I've long been told that the way I play is confusing, so I'm being more transparent and sharing what I'm looking at.

 

[Benzine]

are you guys gonna fuck this up while i'm asleep?

 

[TD]

Says the person who said anyone not voting zell was suspicious.

You can have your cake and eat it too when I give a gun to the first person who promises to shoot you

This is not what I said. I am observing your typical bad guy behaviour where you come up with wild theories to deflect and confuse.

That is why you're on my "I'll shoot" list.

 

[shortkut]

As someone who people will typically not trust, I'll continue to present observations and data

I typically find people are too willing to trust you. I never like when I am evil and you are not because I’m always worried people will rally around you

 

[shortkut]

are you guys gonna fuck this up while i'm asleep?

 

[TD]

I typically find people are too willing to trust you. I never like when I am evil and you are not because I’m always worried people will rally around you

Have we been playing the same game?

 

[A PineSol Scent]

are you guys gonna fuck this up while i'm asleep?

 

[shortkut]

This is not what I said. I am observing your typical bad guy behaviour where you come up with wild theories to deflect and confuse.

That is why you're on my "I'll shoot" list.

That’s my behavior all the time. When I’m good, it makes the bad guys target the wrong person. When I’m bad it helps me live longer. It also means I have more fun regardless of my role

 

[shortkut]

Have we been playing the same game?

We have, but typically you die before people can coalesce around you so it becomes a moot point

 

[TD]

We have, but typically you die before people can coalesce around you so it becomes a moot point

So to be clear. People trust me too much so the result is that I typically am murdered before I become too trustworthy?

I like it.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

are you guys gonna fuck

 

[VashTheStampede]

Says the person who said anyone not voting zell was suspicious.

This is not what I said.

Quite frankly, if Zell turns out to be the judge, the people not voting him are stronger candidates for mobsters than the ones that are.

Presented without comment.

 

[TD]

Presented without comment.

*if Zell turns out to be the judge.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

So to be clear. People trust me too much so the result is that I typically am murdered before I become too trustworthy?

I like it.

 

[shortkut]

*if Zell turns out to be the judge.

Still passing judgement on people’s voting

Early on I called out Kelly for being suspicious. If zell is innocent, instead of being rewarded for seeing through Kelly’s charade, I would be considered suspicious

 

[TD]

Still passing judgement on people’s voting

Early on I called out Kelly for being suspicious. If zell is innocent, instead of being rewarded for seeing through Kelly’s charade, I would be considered suspicious

Are you implying that voting patterns is not a criteria that can be used to help determine who is who?

 

[VashTheStampede]

*if Zell turns out to be the judge.

I didn't comment

 

[Fool's Requiem]

IMO, the only one I trust (for now) is Ben, because he claimed to clear me. That's all I can go off of right now.

Everyone else is sus.

 

[TD]

IMO, the only one I trust (for now) is Ben, because he claimed to clear me. That's all I can go off of right now.

Everyone else is sus.

To be fair, all he said was that you didn't kill someone last night.

You could still be a Wildcard.

 

[shortkut]

Are you implying that voting patterns is not a criteria that can be used to help determine who is who?

I’m implying you’re a hypocrite and you are framing it both ways so you can fit things to your narrative whenever you feel like it

 

[shortkut]

Live footage of @TD :

 

[TD]

I’m implying you’re a hypocrite and you are framing it both ways so you can fit things to your narrative whenever you feel like it

Bold of you to assume I'm running with a narrative in this one. I've put down who I am many times, I've seen it picked up on, and I look forward to doing the thing.

 

[TD]

Live footage of @TD :

I can definitely resonate with this. You know me so well.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

To be fair, all he said was that you didn't kill someone last night.

You could still be a Wildcard.

But that still tells me that I can trust Ben to not be mob or wildcard. Which is all that matters to me right now.

 

[shortkut]

Bold of you to assume I'm running with a narrative in this one. I've put down who I am many times, I've seen it picked up on, and I look forward to doing the thing.

I assume you are trying to leave many avenues open so you can choose an narrative later on

 

[Quagmire]

But one must always take into account the normal voting patterns that each individual may have. I for example, rarely vote and move my vote around. I do not wish to give to much away in my thoughts with my voting, so I tend to wait till later to start making my choice known. While others make joke votes, or move the votes all over at ever whim.

I'm similar to you that I rarely vote on day one unless I feel like there's good evidence

 

[TD]

I assume you are trying to leave many avenues open so you can choose an narrative later on

That would be my strategy as a bad, but alas, I've been nothing but a helpful and observant employee of the agency.

But we can revisit the theory in the next day phase if I live through the night, if you wish. It'll all make sense by then.

 

[shortkut]

That would be my strategy as a bad, but alas, I've been nothing but a helpful and observant employee of the agency.

But we can revisit the theory in the next day phase if I live through the night, if you wish. It'll all make sense by then.

I just want someone to die day 1. Always have, always will. Cole and I used to fight over it. Since zell has enough votes, there is no reason for me to join the bandwagon.

 

[Jawneh]

I trust you enough to not use a gun on me if u give you a gun. If I give you one, would you reciprocate

If I do get a gun, I would not use it on you. That much I can promise myself. Gunta is all about gun safety. This town IS supposed to be a mob free town, but alas, some bad dongs had to ruin the neighborhood. So with each gun, Gunta also gives a shoot-a-mobster-free card to try to help the kids.

Giving one to you, however.... Honestly, I probably would, but by now I've let the gimmick play out and said I would not pass a gun to a fellow philgunthropist. I do have a good idea who to give it for.

 

[Quagmire]

I just want someone to die day 1. Always have, always will. Cole and I used to fight over it. Since zell has enough votes, there is no reason for me to join the bandwagon.

Even zell claims it's better to lynch on day 1

 

[TD]

I just want someone to die day 1. Always have, always will. Cole and I used to fight over it. Since zell has enough votes, there is no reason for me to join the bandwagon.

Oh I agree, I have always been pro day 1 lynch as even a mislynch can provide a ton of information. Certainly more information than no death.

But yes, really no need to pile on at this point but it's likely worth monitoring for last minute people jumping off (another reason why sharing the state of the vote is helpful).

The goodies will prevail with unity and teamwork.