Zell Wolf Not Zell Wolf 2 Day 4

[VashTheStampede]

Ftr, I am not campaigning against you and I can be changed to a different vote when I see a compelling enough argument.

That said, votes for yourself do not count per the rules.

That's a dumb rule IMO and should be looked at

 

[Fool's Requiem]

y'all can eat a bag of dicks cause im fuckin lynching myself

I don't want to eat a bag of dicks. That can't taste very good.

No, I'm on the west coast and don't like to get up early. I'm catching up then will post

I don't know why I keep forgetting this.
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I completely understand why I'm not trusted, and have no way to defend myself, so I'm not going to argue sus.

I will vote anyone besides Ants, Banana, Jon, Tommy, and Kat. I don't trust anyone else, and I only don't want to vote banana yet because I worry about a Fool.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

wtf, you guys are voting to lynch Ants?!

we are so fucked...

 

[Ants!]

I don't want to eat a bag of dicks. That can't taste very good.

Are they all squished together in the bag like chicken parts? Or all they standing up in a papter bag like a bunch of baguettes? "Hey I got a bag of dicks for the kids."

 

[VashTheStampede]

Are they all squished together in the bag like chicken parts? Or all they standing up in a papter bag like a bunch of baguettes? "Hey I got a bag of dicks for the kids."

100% bread dicks

 

[Ants!]

wtf, you guys are voting to lynch Ants?!

we are so fucked...

I'm fine with switching back to Quagmire or Alu. I'll see which way the town goes. I've made my case as best I could.

 

[Kat]

Okay I skimmed a bit but think I caught everything important.

A compromised good guy, as I've said multiple times.

Still not a wolf vote on the wolf win conditions. And if we kill the wolf she's coupled with, she dies too.

Why are you so insistent she's not a wolf? That's the most obvious answer.

If she isn't a wolf, the wolves know whether she's a fool or not, because they'll know if the nightmare thing is true. If they let us lynch her anyway, that's on them.

The OTHER option, if Ants is actually a wolf, is that Kat is the 5th wolf, and dimmerwit was the headhunter.

Lol how could I be a wolf?

So I repeat what I did about Alu. At this point, there is no more reason to hide. What is your role? If it's a kill role... use it.

I'm not hiding but I'm not going to claim. I do have a good aura and I'm on the town team. If I had a killing role, I DEFINITELY would've already used it.

The issue is if he is town we've essentially set us up for a big fat L because we're not going to catch wolves fast enough. Again, I lean on the side of making the play that gives us the MOST information.

Sadly, I still think that's you.

If you're good: so is Kat, Quagmire is bad, Alu is likely evil and we know 2 more wolves.

If you're bad: Kat is likely bad, Alu and Quagmire are likely good and we know 2 more wolves.

You could also just be trying to toss Quagmire as a sacrifice in perhaps and alpha/guardian play.

No, sorry, this is a bad plan. Even learning his role doesn't tell us much. If he's town, maybe he still got tricked by a shaman. If he's a wolf, did he lie about my role to help me hide or did he tell the truth so it'd check out later? Did he give out an evil role to lynch a townie or pull a sacrifice play? Plus if he's a townie then we really can't afford to lose him.

If he was the preacher and there are 4 wolves, town has already lost. Wolves would need to just kill the SNV

Wolves don't need to kill the SNV. They only need to kill the SK (done) and then make up half the town.

I'm voting Banana. She's obviously a wolf or a fool, and I'm fine putting it on the wolves to prevent a fool lynch.

I'm not voting Quagmire or Alu because I don't totally trust Ants and his reads could be fooled. Banana is the safest choice.

 

[Quagmire]

Fuck it. There are two people campaigning hard against me (though one is confirmed good and the other is just being silly) and currently four votes on me.

I'll switch and be the 5th vote (on myself).

I'm tired of arguing. I'll laugh with cananaguy and be ready with the I-told-you-so's at the games end.

LET'S FUCKING DO THIS THING.

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[Jon]

I'm voting Banana. She's obviously a wolf or a fool, and I'm fine putting it on the wolves to prevent a fool lynch.

And in the extremely small off chance she's ACTUALLY the witch? We've burned a kill and a protect.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Vote the potential Fool to end the game. Got it.

 

[VashTheStampede]

And in the extremely small off chance she's ACTUALLY the witch? We've burned a kill and a protect.

Only if she actually uses them at some point

 

[Ants!]

Why are you so insistent she's not a wolf? That's the most obvious answer.

I've never once said she's not a wolf though. She very much could be.

 

[Jon]

Only if she actually uses them at some point

I understand. And I'm playing devil's advocate here. I already said I think the likelihood is she's a wolf.

 

[Kat]

And in the extremely small off chance she's ACTUALLY the witch? We've burned a kill and a protect.

There's a chance anybody could be town. What witch has ever made it to day FOUR without using either of their potions though?

 

[Ants!]

I think accidentally killing the witch is a lesser risk than accidentally lynching the fool. One we can recover from, the other we can't.

That's why I campaigned to still kill banana but by other means (THIS DOES NOT MEAN I'M DEFENDING HER OR SAYING SHE'S NOT WOLF. I LITERALLY JUST SUSPECT POSSIBILITY OF A FOOL.)

Also, killing her doesn't confirm me. Killing Quagmire or Alu confirms me.

Switching vote back to Quagmire for now.

 

[Jon]

There's a chance anybody could be town. What witch has ever made it to day FOUR without using either of their potions though?

When they claim that they were nightmare'd twice? Again, just devil's advocate here.

Also, killing her doesn't confirm me. Killing Quagmire or Alu confirms me.

Doesn't CONFIRM you, but sure lends more credence, yes.

 

[Ants!]

There's a chance anybody could be town. What witch has ever made it to day FOUR without using either of their potions though?

I agree it's extremely unlikely she's town, and I don't believe she is either. But it just seems crazy to me that she should be first choice to lynch when she played in a way that's consistent with a Fool strategy, we haven't found the NV solo yet, and I got an evil read on two other people.

Do a night kill on her if possible (probably only Kelly at this point). Lynch Quagmire. If he's shaman, I'm willing to lynch her over Alu tomorrow if she hasn't died by flagger. I'll also get one more read and be confirmed by Quagmire's death.

 

[Jon]

Also, the protection potion is similar to doctor. And I can tell you how hard it is to guess right on that. I'd be hesitant on my kill potion too.

 

[Jon]

I agree it's extremely unlikely she's town, and I don't believe she is either. But it just seems crazy to me that she should be first choice to lynch when she played in a way that's consistent with a Fool strategy, we haven't found the NV solo yet, and I got an evil read on two other people.

Do a night kill on her if possible (probably only Kelly at this point). Lynch Quagmire. If he's shaman, I'm willing to lynch her over Alu tomorrow if she hasn't died by flagger. I'll also get one more read and be confirmed by Quagmire's death.

I don't like it but I can get behind this. Quagmire is only claiming farmer. As opposed to Alu claiming BH.

I'm still worried about a headhunter, which is my overall hesitation.

In order of likelihood at this point I lean WW Fan > Headhunter > Fool

 

[Ants!]

I don't like it but I can get behind this. Quagmire is only claiming farmer. As opposed to Alu claiming BH.

I'm still worried about a headhunter, which is my overall hesitation.

In order of likelihood at this point I lean WW Fan > Headhunter > Fool

If it's head hunter then it's most likely either FR having to lynch Vash, or Kelly having to lynch banana. Those are the only two occurrences I see where one player is laser-focused on another player.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

I wish @shortkut was alive still in this game.

 

[Ants!]

I wish @shortkut was alive still in this game.

I can give him names to splash, but he'll just pick somebody else and die again.

 

[Ants!]

Man, this game is getting to be like camping.

It's in-tents.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

 

[VashTheStampede]

Man, this game is getting to be like camping.

It's in-tents.

It's argue it's a teepee and a wigwam

It's two tents

 

[Ants!]

It's argue it's a teepee and a wigwam

It's two tents

Yall can cupid me and Vash next time, because I think I just found my soulmate.

 

[Banana]

so our plan is to kill the guy who can confirm auras?? im a little lost on this plan.

and yes ill be killing tonight. no im not telling you or talking it out because the last two times we did that i was targeted by the nightmare wolf and it is being used against me. if you dont want to work with me and potentially leave the game up to me then fine. i will not be targeting jon or tommy boy as they are the only two confirmed town members.

 

[Ants!]

so our plan is to kill the guy who can confirm auras?? im a little lost on this plan.

and yes ill be killing tonight. no im not telling you or talking it out because the last two times we did that i was targeted by the nightmare wolf and it is being used against me. if you dont want to work with me and potentially leave the game up to me then fine. i will not be targeting jon or tommy boy as they are the only two confirmed town members.

I'm plan C (at least for me), and you'd be my plan D. If you're not lynched today though then use that kill potion on SOMEBODY even if you don't want to announce who it is beforehand, because you won't be likely to live another day otherwise. And also hasn't the nightmare wolf shot his only two shots?

 

[Kat]

Do you all agree that the wolves would know if Banana were a fool? Because they'd know the nightmare thing was nonsense, right? So they can easily offer up a wolf instead. Plus didn't somebody else say she must be honest or have team members helping her, because of things she's said? But now we think a new player is playing a solo role to perfection all by themselves?

Dimmerwit could've been the wolf fan and Ants could be sorcerer. That's as likely as Banana being the fool.

 

[Banana]

I'm plan C (at least for me), and you'd be my plan D. If you're not lynched today though then use that kill potion on SOMEBODY even if you don't want to announce who it is beforehand, because you won't be likely to live another day otherwise. And also hasn't the nightmare wolf shot his only two shots?

that is my understanding of the nightmare wolf which is why i said ill be killing tonight. finally.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

so our plan is to kill the guy who can confirm auras?? im a little lost on this plan.

and yes ill be killing tonight. no im not telling you or talking it out because the last two times we did that i was targeted by the nightmare wolf and it is being used against me. if you dont want to work with me and potentially leave the game up to me then fine. i will not be targeting jon or tommy boy as they are the only two confirmed town members.

actions speak louder than words

 

[Banana]

actions speak louder than words

and thats exactly why ill be killing someone tonight?

remind me what you have proven other than telling us what we already knew about kat?

 

[Kat]

and thats exactly why ill be killing someone tonight?

remind me what you have proven other than telling us what we already knew about kat?

Oh, so now you know I'm good? Does that mean I'm also safe from your "potions"?

 

[Kat]

@Fool's Requiem remind me what your read yesterday was?

 

[Fool's Requiem]

my information is more credible than your inactions

 

[Jon]

Do you all agree that the wolves would know if Banana were a fool? Because they'd know the nightmare thing was nonsense, right? So they can easily offer up a wolf instead. Plus didn't somebody else say she must be honest or have team members helping her, because of things she's said? But now we think a new player is playing a solo role to perfection all by themselves?

Dimmerwit could've been the wolf fan and Ants could be sorcerer. That's as likely as Banana being the fool.

I think saying she's incapable of pulling any of this off without coaching is an insult to her ability to play the game. I don't know if she is, but I will not say the only way she's doing this is via coaching.

and thats exactly why ill be killing someone tonight?

remind me what you have proven other than telling us what we already knew about kat?

 

[Ants!]

Do you all agree that the wolves would know if Banana were a fool? Because they'd know the nightmare thing was nonsense, right? So they can easily offer up a wolf instead. Plus didn't somebody else say she must be honest or have team members helping her, because of things she's said? But now we think a new player is playing a solo role to perfection all by themselves?

Dimmerwit could've been the wolf fan and Ants could be sorcerer. That's as likely as Banana being the fool.

My only take away from this (because I don't agree with the rest) is the point that if she is the fool, the wolves might suspect (because head hunter and cupid are also still possible) so if they feared a possible fool, they would probably try harder to not get her lynched. If she was just another wolf they would probably rather give her up rather than being seen defending her.

So that does give at least some pause to the Fool idea.

 

[Banana]

Oh, so now you know I'm good? Does that mean I'm also safe from your "potions"?

ants said you were good day 1 and it was even linked back to today.

my information is more credible than your inactions

prove it? see my point? we already had two people lie about information on day 1.

yes youre on the short list dont worry.

 

[Ants!]

I think saying she's incapable of pulling any of this off without coaching is an insult to her ability to play the game. I don't know if she is, but I will not say the only way she's doing this is via coaching.

I think that's fair. She could be witch or fool or wolf, but regardless she's not stupid and she's been good at reading and understanding the rules. It might even be that someone suggested fool earlier on in the game (like with Local for a while) and she just adopted a similar strategy trying to think how she could make a role claim and not be believed.

It's not a stretch.

 

[Kat]

I think that's fair. She could be witch or fool or wolf, but regardless she's not stupid and she's been good at reading and understanding the rules. It might even be that someone suggested fool earlier on in the game (like with Local for a while) and she just adopted a similar strategy trying to think how she could make a role claim and not be believed.

It's not a stretch.

It wasn't my intention to call her dumb or incapable. Somebody said she'd had some lies that would've been hard to come up with on her own. @Tommy Boy maybe? I don't think he followed up with specifically why he thought she couldn't be a solo though.

 

[VashTheStampede]

But now we think a new player is playing a solo role to perfection all themselves?

I mean, all she's done is nothing. Gotta respect the lack of hustle.

 

[Ants!]

It wasn't my intention to call her dumb or incapable. Somebody said she'd had some lies that would've been hard to come up with on her own. @Tommy Boy maybe? I don't think he followed up with specifically why he thought she couldn't be a solo though.

There has been some talk earlier in the game about how she's not on the wolf team but being coached to help them or something like that. I can't remember who said it or what was said exactly, and I didn't completely understand the argument at the time anyway.

in b4 "WHY ARE YOU DEFENDING HER IT'S SUS"

 

[GwJumpman]

Getting caught up on the thread I'm here

 

[Kat]

Are you all voting Ants because you think he's evil? We cannot afford to lynch a townie today.

 

[Ants!]

Getting caught up on the thread I'm here

Not for long

 

[VashTheStampede]

Getting caught up on the thread I'm here

You missed a post

 

[VashTheStampede]

Too soon?

 

[Ants!]

Are you all voting Ants because you think he's evil? We cannot afford to lynch a townie today.

I'm in favor of whatever confirms my role. It's not my first choice though, nor my second. lol

 

[Kat]

TOMMY please help more ghosts are escaping the realm of the dead!

 

[Ants!]

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