Zell Wolf Not Zell Wolf 2 Day 4

[Fool's Requiem]

so i already know how this is going to get responded to but i was targeted by the nightmare wolf. on the plus they have nothing left and i can do something tonight finally.
i dont really have proof but i targeted quagmire with my kill and gwjumpman with my protect like we talked about.

IF (and that is a big if) that is true, that's both Nightmare usages used. Surely, you can do what you need to do tonight.

 

[A Punched Face]

I'm still very sus on banana to be sure, but let's not go with made up information here.

 

[Smacktard]

not sus at all that 4/4 of the votes on Alu are from unconfirmed town

 

[Fool's Requiem]

not sus at all that 4/4 of the votes on Alu are from unconfirmed town

I can totally swap back to Vash...

 

[Banana]

not sus at all that 4/4 of the votes on Alu are from unconfirmed town

from our perspective you are unconfirmed town? you actively avoiding voting for someone who showed up as evil doesnt exactly scream you are town does it?

 

[VashTheStampede]

from our perspective you are unconfirmed town? you actively avoiding voting for someone who showed up as evil doesnt exactly scream you are town does it?

Flagging someone claiming Loudmouth would be a BALLSY play from someone coupled with a Wolf now that I think about it.

Honestly feel better about Kelly than most of y'all.

 

[Ants!]

Right now I'm trying to get the lynch off myself because I'm 100% not a wolf. You now have two "evil" reads and seem only set on going after me.

not sus at all that 4/4 of the votes on Alu are from unconfirmed town

I was clear that I'm fine with lynching either Alu or Quagmire, and just landed on Alu because of a die roll.

However since Alu is claiming shaman and making a case for himself and Quagmire hasn't, I'm okay with lynching Quagmire first instead.

As long as it's one of them.

 

[Ants!]

not sus at all that 4/4 of the votes on Alu are from unconfirmed town

You're as confirmed as any of them (and less confirmed than me).

 

[Smacktard]

I can totally swap back to Vash...

I feel better about voting off Vash than I do Alu. He just feels sus to me, despite his best attempts to woo me:

Flagging someone claiming Loudmouth would be a BALLSY play from someone coupled with a Wolf now that I think about it.

Honestly feel better about Kelly than most of y'all.

(Which maybe are a little bit working )

But if Vash weren't a wolf, wolves wouldn't have killed gwjump last night and instead would've let him live last night and Corey Giles press a townie to death today.

from our perspective you are unconfirmed town? you actively avoiding voting for someone who showed up as evil doesnt exactly scream you are town does it?

pro tip: aura sees can be faked.

Wolves typically wouldn't want to kill the Loudmouth -- especially when town was sus of him and they had better strong roles to kill. They attacked me because I lied that I was protecting Tommy and they couldn't risk having a kill on Tommy blocked, and they thought they could get rid of me. I flagged Local because I thought he was SV. I should've flagged Banana in retrospect.

 

[Ants!]

Okay Vash makes a good point about kelly and the loudmouth, and kelly makes a good point about vash and the bully.

 

[Smacktard]

My wolf picks right now are:
Vash
Ants
3rd (maybe Banana idk lol)

 

[Banana]

pro tip: aura sees can be faked.

Wolves typically wouldn't want to kill the Loudmouth -- especially when town was sus of him and they had better strong roles to kill. They attacked me because I lied that I was protecting Tommy and they couldn't risk having a kill on Tommy blocked, and they thought they could get rid of me. I flagged Local because I thought he was SV. I should've flagged Banana in retrospect.

you seem to know an awful lot about what you think the wolves have? you think they dont have a nightmare would and you think they have a shaman wolf?

flagger can be faked too can it not?

 

[Ants!]

...you know what? Kill me. I'll take one for the team.

Then when Benzine confirms me 100%, kill those two guys.

 

[VashTheStampede]

But if Vash weren't a wolf, wolves wouldn't have killed gwjump last night and instead would've let him live last night and Corey Giles press a townie to death today.

See, I saw it as an obvious frame job, but I have a different perspective

 

[Fool's Requiem]

But if Vash weren't a wolf, wolves wouldn't have killed gwjump last night and instead would've let him live last night and Corey Giles press a townie to death today.

I didn't even consider this.

...you know what? Kill me. I'll take one for the team.

Then when Benzine confirms me 100%, kill those two guys.

I don't like this plan either... ESPECIALLY in the event they have an Alpha.

 

[Smacktard]

See, I saw it as an obvious frame job, but I have a different perspective

Fair but a townie on townie death is more useful than the potential of framing the next day.

...you know what? Kill me. I'll take one for the team.

Then when Benzine confirms me 100%, kill those two guys.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Fair but a townie on townie death is more useful than the potential of framing the next day.

Maybe they didn't read the rules and didn't know the Bully wouldn't be able to kill one of them after me

Lord knows Jawneh didn't read the rules

 

[Banana]

i now know what local hero meant about living to the end and having a crisis about who to kill.

 

[Jon]

Holy shit, three pages already, you guys!? Kinda ruins what I wanted to open with...

Also, gotta read and catch up now... back in 20....

 

[VashTheStampede]

Also, gotta read and catch up now... back in 20....

apparently that's not necessary in this game

 

[Fool's Requiem]

apparently that's not necessary in this game

and @shortkut died day one

 

[Ants!]

apparently that's not necessary in this game

What does a seer apprentice do?

 

[A Punched Face]

...you know what? Kill me. I'll take one for the team.

Then when Benzine confirms me 100%, kill those two guys.

I'll do this if it gets me not lynched. But I'd prefer elsewhere to be honest. While I'm sus of the behavior (I don't think anyone would switch to voting for you after saying they should, because this is a lovely game of asking people to do something expecting them to not), I feel there are better targets.

 

[Ants!]

I'll do this if it gets me not lynched. But I'd prefer elsewhere to be honest. While I'm sus of the behavior (I don't think anyone would switch to voting for you after saying they should, because this is a lovely game of asking people to do something expecting them to not), I feel there are better targets.

So don't go after the two guys I mentioned, but also don't take my offer to kill me to confirm it?

 

[Banana]

alu quagmire and vash all seem like good options to me.

 

[VashTheStampede]

alu quagmire and vash all seem like good options to me.

But not Fool's

Interesting

 

[Ants!]

But not Fool's

Interesting

Fools in love

 

[Banana]

But not Fool's

Interesting

i mean sure but the two people who showed up as evil and the one that just got saved from a bully kill feel like better options.

he certainly could be. especially with kat and her good aura which could still be sorcerer or werewolf fan. weird he would try to double clear her actually now that i say it out loud.

 

[VashTheStampede]

I think going with one of the "confirmed" Evil reads is the best play, for whatever that's worth.

Best case scenario we hit a coupled wolf and get 2 issues off the board.

Better than average chances we get a single wolf.

And even if Ants is wrong/bad we get more information with a lowered risk of losing another townie

Edited a typo

 

[Fool's Requiem]

What does a seer apprentice do?

Seer Apprentice
Aura: Good
Initially has no powers or abilities. However, if a seer dies, the apprentice will transform into their role during the day. The following roles count as “seers” for this ability: Aura Seer, Detective, Sheriff, Spirit Seer, Violinist. If the person the Apprentice transformed into is revived, the Apprentice will revert back to an Apprentice with no powers.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Good thing I'm here. No one would know what my role does.

 

[Jon]

I hate you all for this wall of exposition that's about to hit....

@Jon welcome back, do you have any new info?

Also somebody else do the tagging, I did it yesterday lol

Depends on what new info you're looking for? I won't have anything that Tommy can't already say, but what are you looking for precisely? General consensus is dimmerwit (who has been COMPLETELY SILENT in the the dead thread since he got killed and made only 2 posts there) is the reason for all this unknown. I still think there is a greater chance he actually was the Trickster than not.

At this point it's starting to feel like I could be fuckin sniping wolves and people would be like "maybe it's part of his plan to kill all the wolves and then run for mayor so he can shut down the orphanage"

Kinda demoralizing lol but I guess the wolves are having fun with it

Yeah, I have NO idea what that feels like. Definitely didn't have to off myself on a witness stand to prove my role...

Must be how @Jon feels

I hate you... >.>

I'm a role that is useless that the wolves don't want to target.

I haven't had a need to chat with Benzine since shortly after he revealed my role.

Ok, you have been my prime SUSpect since day one. It's now day 4 and you're coming off a silence and the ONLY one without a claim. Stop being obtuse and tell us what you are. If you were Shaman'd there's no reason to hide anymore unless you have the ability to kill someone. Which I then say... do it already.

Why read me and not the witch who will almost certainly come back to us saying she was once again nightmared?

This is what I am saying...

Because as I've stated at the very beginning of the game: I'm deliberately trying to outmaneuver the shaman by picking less likely candidates. The last two nights I could have easily picked somebody like Vash or banana, but I was expecting the wolf team to predict that in order to thwart me.

...And while I get this mindset, you're trying to outmaneuver a single role. And one that consensus always says "This is a shitty role, maybe the shittiest role of all." Paraphrasing Vash there, not Trump.

You can trust me, but that doesn't mean I trust you. Our first priority should be getting rid of someone who claims to be town, can KILL a townie at night, and hasn't contributed anything the entire game. If they're Cupid'd, they're a bigger threat to the town than a confirmed wolf, because they haven't been making pro-town moves. I guaranfuckingtee you they are coupled with a wolf.

This... is actually fairly sound, in my opinion. If there is a Cupid...

I don't get why you're so sure there's a Cupid

there's a Headhunter right over there. No don't look he'll see you

...Fucking stealing my thunder...

This, though, jokes aside. I'm more inclined to believe there is a headhunter this game and not a Cupid. There hasn't been enough cupid-like bullshit. Which means lynching town people is DANGEROUS.

i dont really have proof but i targeted quagmire with my kill and gwjumpman with my protect like we talked about.

I am just going to say this is REALLY hard to believe at this point. And while I lean on the side of "you're a wolf" at this point, I think there are bigger fish to fry. Either way, kudos to you on the game you've played. I was complete shit my first game. (Still am...)

But if Vash weren't a wolf, wolves wouldn't have killed gwjump last night and instead would've let him live last night and Corey Giles press a townie to death today.

THIS is the most sound thing. Jump had already stoned Local, a townie. If Vash were the librarian, the wolves would WANT him to kill Vash so Vash wouldn't silence a wolf at a critical time. This is the most damning thing.

apparently that's not necessary in this game

It is to me, damnit! Hence this fooking wall!

I'll do this if it gets me not lynched. But I'd prefer elsewhere to be honest. While I'm sus of the behavior (I don't think anyone would switch to voting for you after saying they should, because this is a lovely game of asking people to do something expecting them to not), I feel there are better targets.

I... tend to agree with the sentiment. Though killing Ants is higher on my priority list because at this point, killing him would give the town a TON of information.

I think going with one of the "confirmed" Evil reads is the best play, for whatever that's worth.

I disagree. Quagmire and Alu haven't offered much except obtuse answers. Killing you or Ants is the smarter play at this point.

 

[Jon]

Oh, and one other thing...

ANYONE pushing hard for a lynch of a specific person is completely suspect (except for me and Tommy who are confirmed town).

 

[VashTheStampede]

I disagree. Quagmire and Alu haven't offered much except obtuse answers. Killing you or Ants is the smarter play at this point.

Gosh almost like they're being passengers

 

[Smacktard]

Gosh almost like they're being passengers

Tbf a farmer can't be much more than a passenger. Not saying I believe Quagmire, but I'd like confirmation on that.

Also I love how a confirmed townie comes in and immediately starts making sense. Thank you for your service @Jon

 

[VashTheStampede]

Tbf a farmer can't be much more than a passenger. Not saying I believe Quagmire, but I'd like confirmation on that.

The easiest of false role claims though lol

Also I love how a confirmed townie comes in and immediately starts making sense. Thank you for your service @Jon

Suck up

 

[Jon]

Suck up

I'm just gonna leave this here...

Flagging someone claiming Loudmouth would be a BALLSY play from someone coupled with a Wolf now that I think about it.

Honestly feel better about Kelly than most of y'all.

 

[Quagmire]

Oh, and one other thing...

ANYONE pushing hard for a lynch of a specific person is completely suspect (except for me and Tommy who are confirmed town).

And if there is a cupid, we know you werent one of the coupled

 

[Smacktard]

Suck up

Hey now, weren't you supposed to be wooing me???

 

[Smacktard]

And if there is a cupid, we know you werent one of the coupled

Safe to assume Tommy isn't either if he revived someone.

 

[Quagmire]

Flagging someone claiming Loudmouth would be a BALLSY play from someone coupled with a Wolf now that I think about it.

Honestly feel better about Kelly than most of y'all.

I think Kelly is a townie, but if there is a cupid he could be a pair

 

[VashTheStampede]

Hey now, weren't you supposed to be wooing me???

I'm just being me, man. If you're into it, that's just the rizz talking

 

[Quagmire]

Safe to assume Tommy isn't either if he revived someone.

Probably, but he does have a role to fill, and if he didnt revive someone it would be, dare I say, Sus....

 

[Jon]

AT THIS POINT... my belief is that Vash, Ants and Banana are the other 3 wolves (with the understanding dimmerwit was the 5th wolf). Making FR the headhunter.

The OTHER option, if Ants is actually a wolf, is that Kat is the 5th wolf, and dimmerwit was the headhunter.

Which... If I said what i did to Alu, I have to say, thinking back, we still have zero claim from @Kat for a role. So I repeat what I did about Alu. At this point, there is no more reason to hide. What is your role? If it's a kill role... use it.

 

[A Punched Face]

@Jon i did claim. I'm mostly useless and an unknown aura that the wolves don't want to attack at night and I haven't had to tell Benzine anything since the first night.

Everyone's favorite role to be where you are a passenger with no information that will survive to the end and hope you vote correctly along the way.

 

[Jon]

@Jon i did claim. I'm mostly useless and an unknown aura that the wolves don't want to attack at night and I haven't had to tell Benzine anything since the first night.

Everyone's favorite role to be where you are a passenger with no information that will survive to the end and hope you vote correctly along the way.

So... Beast Hunter...?

 

[A Punched Face]

Safe to assume Tommy isn't either if he revived someone.

Specifically revived someone with a role that could kill again.

 

[Jon]

Specifically revived someone with a role that could kill again.

Since I sacrificed myself once to prove myself, let's not do that again. Mmmkay?

 

[A Punched Face]

Since I sacrificed myself once to prove myself, let's not do that again. Mmmkay?

But what if you're double cupided?

 

[Fool's Requiem]