Zell Wolf GWF Wolf - Zell's Version3 Night2/Day2

[TD]

And with THAT I'm off to go INDULGE and apparently watch a THREE HOUR OR SOMETHING CONGRESS HEARING about ALIENS because the wife INSISTS I put the phone down and learn the TRUTH.

 

[Benzine]

Serial killer stacks kills as well. Why do you think I didn’t kill anybody last game?

Lack of skill mostly

But that is basically the same outcome as arsonist - but better for the town. Arsonist will get more kills.

 

[VashTheStampede]

My eye is twitching so hard right now. So hard. I'm more the pickup kind of player tonight, so it doesn't matter. But fucking remember this if Raposa winds up being innocent.

Voting Benzine and Skip

I'm so glad someone else picked up on that

 

[A Punched Face]

Lack of skill mostly

But that is basically the same outcome as arsonist - but better for the town. Arsonist will get more kills.

Arsonist can get more kills, if no one they selected in the first two nights has been killed so far.

 

[Raposuh]

Lack of skill mostly

But that is basically the same outcome as arsonist - but better for the town. Arsonist will get more kills.

Also voting Skip.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Also voting Skip.

 

[Benzine]

Also voting Skip.

Foreshadowing.

 

[Killface!]

My eye is twitching so hard right now. So hard. I'm more the pickup kind of player tonight, so it doesn't matter. But fucking remember this if Raposa winds up being innocent.

Voting Benzine and Skip

Yeah…

Trying to catch up and saw this too. I’m going to withhold my vote for right now. Give it a little more time to cook.

 

[VashTheStampede]

My problem now is that I think Raposa is a wolf and Benzine the RK.

By means of triage that means I have to switch my vote to Benzine

 

[Benzine]

I'm glad that it's only the people on my list coming after me.

 

[TD]

…I can’t put my finger on it, but something feels different about you this time around. This isn’t the play style we’ve been seeing.

I'm embracing THE DEATH OF SUBTLETY.

 

[TD]

(plus the fact that aside from Raposa I don't really get a strong read right now)

 

[TD]

Wait why do we think Benzine is the RK??

Is there something that suggests Raposa is honest?

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Give a proper counter argument, then if you have one.

I've provided the information required over and over again. It is not my fault that you choose to ignore it.

I think it's premature to expect that they didn't pick up the Werewolf Fan.

This is a good point.

 

[Benzine]

Wait why do we think Benzine is the RK??

Is there something that suggests Raposa is honest?

There's no concrete evidence either way that either of us is anything.

The only thing either of us has claimed to do which can be seen is that I claimed to protect canadaguy, has said he was targeted, and there was no wolf kill last night.

Raposa claimed to protect Ryan.

 

[Zell 17]

Votes to lynch (6 required):

Raposa - 6 (TD, Kat, Local Hero, Benzine, Ants!, aura seer)
Benzine - 2 (Warp, VashTheStampede)
Warp - 1 (Holly)
aura seer - 1 (Fool's Requiem)
Ants! - 1 (Raposa)

No votes - canadaguy, Killface!, Warp

Votes to skip (12 required):

Skip - 4 (VashTheStampede, Ants!, Benzine, Local Hero)

No votes - aura seer, canadaguy, Fool's Requiem, Holly, Kat, Killface!, Raposa, TD, Warp

 

[VashTheStampede]

Wait why do we think Benzine is the RK??

Is there something that suggests Raposa is honest?

Don't think Raposa is honest. But we have no real proof Benzine is who he's saying he is. He seems UTTERLY convinced that the RK is the Arsonist. When dealing with the jail idea he was saying the plan is to jail wolves, when we're hunting the RK.

Little pieces adding up.

 

[Killface!]

Don't think Raposa is honest. But we have no real proof Benzine is who he's saying he is. He seems UTTERLY convinced that the RK is the Arsonist. When dealing with the jail idea he was saying the plan is to jail wolves, when we're hunting the RK.

Little pieces adding up.

This is the correct answer.

It is nothing concrete, just little things adding up.

This does not mean that Raposa is innocent/cleared.

 

[Benzine]

I've still not had it explained to me in a convincing way that putting wolves in jail is outright a bad idea - but I also said I realised that we could just put no one in there. We want our team to do their roles tonight. I have said that - choosing to ignore that is suspicious. Since we can't blame Killface (unless one of these ???s from the confusion is actually the ritualist and KF is a wolf, I guess), I have to assume that people picking and choosing what they want to talk about or acknowledge as guilty. Vash is already part of quite a suspect group of unclaimed roles, so when I think of people to go for next (not that I'll have a chance), that's what I'll be doing.

 

[TD]

I've still not had it explained to me in a convincing way that putting wolves in jail is outright a bad idea - but I also said I realised that we could just put no one in there. We want our team to do their roles tonight. I have said that - choosing to ignore that is suspicious. Since we can't blame Killface (unless one of these ???s from the confusion is actually the ritualist and KF is a wolf, I guess), I have to assume that people picking and choosing what they want to talk about or acknowledge as guilty. Vash is already part of quite a suspect group of unclaimed roles, so when I think of people to go for next (not that I'll have a chance), that's what I'll be doing.

How the HECK did I not even consider that about Killface??

I'm getting rusty in my old age.

I'd also like to make a public service announcement in case you find me CRISPY, BULLET RIDDLED, OR MAULED.

Don't forget - the random wolf is LIKELY still out there and we have no clue what they can do.

BERSERKER, SHAMAN, AND TRICKSTER are all kinds of trouble.

 

[Killface!]

I've still not had it explained to me in a convincing way that putting wolves in jail is outright a bad idea - but I also said I realised that we could just put no one in there. We want our team to do their roles tonight. I have said that - choosing to ignore that is suspicious. Since we can't blame Killface (unless one of these ???s from the confusion is actually the ritualist and KF is a wolf, I guess), I have to assume that people picking and choosing what they want to talk about or acknowledge as guilty. Vash is already part of quite a suspect group of unclaimed roles, so when I think of people to go for next (not that I'll have a chance), that's what I'll be doing.

How the HECK did I not even consider that about Killface??

I'm getting rusty in my old age.

I'd also like to make a public service announcement in case you find me CRISPY, BULLET RIDDLED, OR MAULED.

Don't forget - the random wolf is LIKELY still out there and we have no clue what they can do.

BERSERKER, SHAMAN, AND TRICKSTER are all kinds of trouble.

Just to quickly dispel this, Zell basically confirmed my role.

 

[Benzine]

That's one of the more likely, but still stretchy, situations. The most likely option for it would be kut as the ritualist. I'm mostly just trying to keep it simple, since my role doesn't actually find information outside of someone being attacked, so I can't really speculate further. Wish our seers would talk more.

 

[Benzine]

Just to quickly dispel this, Zell basically confirmed my role.

Show me

 

[Benzine]

please*

 

[Killface!]

please*

Thanks for asking so nicely.

I don't know how to do the fancy thing where you can easily link the post, but here you go:

Zell Wolf - GWF Wolf - Zell's Version3 Night2/Day2

if (fool) = Bad then Local = wrong+bad Bad + wrong = badong. Local is badong.

gwforums.com

 

[Benzine]

Good enough for me.

 

[Killface!]

Thanks for asking so nicely.

I don't know how to do the fancy thing where you can easily link the post, but here you go:

Zell Wolf - GWF Wolf - Zell's Version3 Night2/Day2

if (fool) = Bad then Local = wrong+bad Bad + wrong = badong. Local is badong.

gwforums.com

tl;dr

I said "The Killer T's" were in the dead chat. Zell confirmed that Tommy and Tubby are in the dead chat to provide laughs. There is absolutely know way that I could/would know that.

 

[TD]

That's one of the more likely, but still stretchy, situations. The most likely option for it would be kut as the ritualist. I'm mostly just trying to keep it simple, since my role doesn't actually find information outside of someone being attacked, so I can't really speculate further. Wish our seers would talk more.

In theory, if kut was the Ritualist and dead.. and you KNEW.. you could make up whatever you want is happening from the grave right?

Killface hasn't given us much and claiming kut is the Spirit Seer DOES throw a serious wrench into everything, even if it's not true.

Killface also didn't get the reference about his role I tried to allude to which is odd in hindsight.

Regardless, kut is probably screaming in his grave.

This is EXACTLY the type of big brain play Cole would manufacture, claim the Ritualist, they're already dead. Pretend it was the spirit seer, that throws MASSIVE DOUBT out there, no one can question you.

...can we CONSIDER taking him off the confirmed list?

 

[Local Hero]

Just to quickly dispel this, Zell basically confirmed my role.

Oh yeah, I forgot that killface said that since other people got added to the dead thread, and zell confirmed it. My bad

 

[Benzine]

In theory, if kut was the Ritualist and dead.. and you KNEW.. you could make up whatever you want is happening from the grave right?

Killface hasn't given us much and claiming kut is the Spirit Seer DOES throw a serious wrench into everything, even if it's not true.

Killface also didn't get the reference about his role I tried to allude to which is odd in hindsight.

Regardless, kut is probably screaming in his grave.

This is EXACTLY the type of big brain play Cole would manufacture, claim the Ritualist, they're already dead. Pretend it was the spirit seer, that throws MASSIVE DOUBT out there, no one can question you.

...can we CONSIDER taking him off the confirmed list?

Yes, you would be the entire grave by yourself, because no words are coming from the grave. Look at what KF shared that Zell said and say what you think.

 

[Killface!]

In theory, if kut was the Ritualist and dead.. and you KNEW.. you could make up whatever you want is happening from the grave right?

In theory, yes. If I was faking being the ritualist.

Killface hasn't given us much and claiming kut is the Spirit Seer DOES throw a serious wrench into everything, even if it's not true.

Kut has no info to give. He was killed and was not given info from his seer. Because, you know. He was dead.

Coke wasn’t giving anything up because if he tells all, then he is hurting his teams (wolves) chances.

Killface also didn't get the reference about his role I tried to allude to which is odd in hindsight.

To be fair, it took me a long time to figure out your role, but I think I know what it is with 99% certainty.

Regardless, kut is probably screaming in his grave.

He got upset when I said pineapple on pizza isn’t that bad. The sweet compliments the rest of the pizza.

This is EXACTLY the type of big brain play Cole would manufacture, claim the Ritualist, they're already dead. Pretend it was the spirit seer, that throws MASSIVE DOUBT out there, no one can question you.

...can we CONSIDER taking him off the confirmed list?

You can consider, but that is the wrong move.

I’ve been trying to keep the team on track for finding the RK. Also the whole Zell thing helps my case immensely.

 

[TD]

Yes, you would be the entire grave by yourself, because no words are coming from the grave. Look at what KF shared that Zell said and say what you think.

I don't think it proves anything.

Kat's criteria for ruling out included DISCERNIBLE ACTIONS. If the Ritualist brought someone back from the dead, that would prove it. He didn't even KNOW what I was asking when I hinted about if he targeted Ryan to come back. I had to spell it out, to which he said he has to target them before they die. Almost like he went and read the role.

Claiming two lines by Cole before he was CONVENIENTLY locked out?

Can anybody OTHER than Killface corroborate his claim in any way?

 

[TD]

How awfully convenient that the dead seer has NO INFO when we have TWO Spirit Seer claims.

 

[Benzine]

I don't think it proves anything.

Kat's criteria for ruling out included DISCERNIBLE ACTIONS. If the Ritualist brought someone back from the dead, that would prove it. He didn't even KNOW what I was asking when I hinted about if he targeted Ryan to come back. I had to spell it out, to which he said he has to target them before they die. Almost like he went and read the role.

Claiming two lines by Cole before he was CONVENIENTLY locked out?

Can anybody OTHER than Killface corroborate his claim in any way?

Ritualist revives work different - they can't just choose someone dead to revive. They couldn't prove it like I could last game.

No one has said they're the ritualist, only KF. kut, Cole, or Ryan would have to be the ritualist for this to be a viable play.

 

[TD]

Ritualist revives work different - they can't just choose someone dead to revive. They couldn't prove it like I could last game.

No one has said they're the ritualist, only KF. kut, Cole, or Ryan would have to be the ritualist for this to be a viable play.

I get that. What I'm saying THOUGH, is that I asked if Ryan is coming back BY THE END OF THE DAY. He had no clue what I was saying. It escaped my mind after Zell's post but now I'm strongly reconsidering after you mentioned it.

Show of hands, who thinks it's possible that COLE suggested someone claimed Ritualist because they were dead?

 

[Killface!]

I don't think it proves anything.

Kat's criteria for ruling out included DISCERNIBLE ACTIONS. If the Ritualist brought someone back from the dead, that would prove it. He didn't even KNOW what I was asking when I hinted about if he targeted Ryan to come back. I had to spell it out, to which he said he has to target them before they die. Almost like he went and read the role.

You wanted me to waste my ONE revive on Ryan? I can’t just bring him back right now. I have to have the spell active and the person has to die for that to activate.

I can’t bring back Kut because he’s dead. The spell is active on someone that is ALIVE currently and if they die they immediately come back.

Claiming two lines by Cole before he was CONVENIENTLY locked out?

Again. Cole talking does nothing but hurt his team.

 

[Holly]

A lot happened while I was doing stuff today.

I'll join the vote Raposa train. I said I needed to start somewhere and I was willing to change it with more information.

Skip

 

[TD]

I didn't want you to, I wanted you to be able to pick up on the SPECIFICS of what I was asking about your role. You didn't until I spelled it out.

 

[Benzine]

Again. Cole talking does nothing but hurt his team.

Cole can lie, you can be hoodwinked - it's happening in this very thread!

 

[TD]

Okay EVERYONE.

Bigger threat, RK or Wolf?

 

[Killface!]

Okay EVERYONE.

Bigger threat, RK or Wolf?

As stated multiple times by me. RK is bigger threat.

 

[TD]

Okay.

I'm staying on Raposa.

If I don't make it, DO NOT FORGET THIS.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Okay EVERYONE.

Bigger threat, RK or Wolf?

Climate change, fascism, RK, wolves, nuclear war

In that order

 

[TD]

 

[Ants!]

Were the wolves even told kut’s role to begin with? I thought they were in the dark about it like us.

 

[Holly]

Were the wolves even told kut’s role to begin with? I thought they were in the dark about it like us.

When we killed Alu out of the gate last game, it was because the Wolf Seer checked him, saw he was aura seer, then we all decided to off him.

 

[Killface!]

Were the wolves even told kut’s role to begin with? I thought they were in the dark about it like us.

8. Confusion Wolf: Twice per game, can activate confusion status at night. Anybody killed that night will not have their roles revealed. The wolves will be told the roles of those killed. The wolves still cannot see the roles of those killed by the corruptor. Aura: Evil

They know what is role is.

 

[Benzine]

Were the wolves even told kut’s role to begin with? I thought they were in the dark about it like us.

Confusion wolf power tells them the role of people killed by wolf while confused - which would be kut.

 

[Local Hero]

(soaking to TD)
To be fair, it took me a long time to figure out your role, but I think I know what it is with 99% certainty.

Killface, mind sharing what you think TD's role is?

 

[Killface!]

Killface, mind sharing what you think TD's role is?

He’s practically shouting it from the rooftops.

LIKE SHOUTING IT