Zell Wolf GWF Wolf - Zell’s Game 5 Night 2 / Day 2

[Tubby23]

Why the hell would I give myself away with a taunt lol

You wouldn't I don't think. But you know I've got to think about it, got to ask myself/you the question

 

[Local Hero]

Like are there really two bell ringers?

Oh I forgot, was it Cole claiming Bell ringer?

 

[Local Hero]

I thought the talk yesterday about someone else being Bell Ringer was stated by @Analutics to have been about a prior game. I thought @shortkut said @Cole claimed it.

My asking about it yesterday was because I'd know it was a bullshit claim. I'm the true ding-dong.

There could be more than one

 

[Tubby23]

I thought the talk yesterday about someone else being Bell Ringer was stated by @Analutics to have been about a prior game. I thought @shortkut said @Cole claimed it.

My asking about it yesterday was because I'd know it was a bullshit claim. I'm the true ding-dong.

 

[shortkut]

@shortkut, any RK/wolf power that can kill through protection? You're the role expert

I believe the gumshoe can remove the gum from his or her shoe and stick it on a wolf

 

[Tubby23]

Yes @Ben for reference one game we had 3 aura seers so two Bellringers is possible

Just don't start a discussion about the odds

 

[VashTheStampede]

I thought the talk yesterday about someone else being Bell Ringer was stated by @Analutics to have been about a prior game. I thought @shortkut said @Cole claimed it.

My asking about it yesterday was because I'd know it was a bullshit claim. I'm the true ding-dong.

Cole was definitely claiming it with the Quasimodo references.

But I  believe he could also technically be claiming Cupid based on which adaptation of Hunchback of Notre Dame you go with. Which would definitely be a Cole thing to do.

Voting TD btw

damnit ben i was trying to get to bed at a reasonable hour

 

[Local Hero]

Yes @Ben for reference one game we had 3 aura seers so two Bellringers is possible

Just don't start a discussion about the odds

@Smacktard, can we get a readout on the odds?

@Analutics, maybe some analytics?

 

[Tubby23]

@Smacktard, can we get a readout on the odds?

@Analutics, maybe some analytics?

What did you get up to last night?

 

[VashTheStampede]

What did you get up to last night?

That's Cole's line

 

[shortkut]

Cole was definitely claiming it with the Quasimodo references.

But I  believe he could also technically be claiming Cupid based on which adaptation of Hunchback of Notre Dame you go with. Which would definitely be a Cole thing to do.

Voting TD btw

damnit ben i was trying to get to bed at a reasonable hour

If cole was Cupid, he would put you and @Christina together… tell me @VashTheStampede , who do you love?

 

[VashTheStampede]

OK GOOD NIGHT FOR REAL

unless I keep hearing a fuck ton of notifications

 

[Local Hero]

What did you get up to last night?

 

[VashTheStampede]

If cole was Cupid, he would put you and @Christina together… tell me @VashTheStampede , who do you love?

You know I only have eyes for you

 

[Benzine]

I vote td

 

[Local Hero]

I vote td

 

[Ben]

There could be more than one

Yes @Ben for reference one game we had 3 aura seers so two Bellringers is possible

Just don't start a discussion about the odds

Word.

damnit ben i was trying to get to bed at a reasonable hour

My bad, son. I was going to sit on my hands and see who TD was siding with today, but it seemed identifying the Shadow Wolf was urgent.

 

[Local Hero]

Ants being red lady and (if it's true) Ben being Bell ringer is two of the three random roles.

Ants - bearded lady
Ben - Bell ringer
Cole - Bell ringer

All random roles claimed. Would anyone like to dispute this?

 

[VashTheStampede]

Word.


My bad, son. I was going to sit on my hands and see who TD was siding with today, but it seemed identifying the Shadow Wolf was urgent.

Oh you definitely did the right thing

My only concern is now he's DEFINITELY gonna use his power today.

 

[A Punched Face]

Yeah gonna go ahead and drop a vote on TD there.

But yeah now we just need to wait for him to see the thread and cast a shadow so someone else ends up lynched.

 

[Tubby23]

Ants - bearded lady
Ben - Bell ringer
Cole - Bell ringer

All random roles claimed. Would anyone like to dispute this?

I would dispute that we can trust Coles claim as yet

 

[TD]

Wow, this got pretty unbelievable pretty quick.

I'm the doctor, I'm guessing they seered me last night and want me out.

I protected 15 night one, Tubby last night (#TeamTubby), and WAS going to protect the medium tonight because I know who you are but sure, kill me and lose the medium protection along with ants info.

My best read on your wolves are Benzine, Ben, and Local.

 

[Tubby23]

@Zell 17 can you confirm the mechanic for shadow wolf, does it mean all votes already cast can stay as is or does it mean that we all need to re-vote again during the shadow period?

 

[TD]

@Zell 17 can you confirm the mechanic for shadow wolf, does it mean all votes already cast can stay as is or does it mean that we all need to re-vote again during the shadow period?

Yes please confirm.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Lucky medium has multiple people claiming to know who they are and are protecting them and calling them handsome

I'm almost jealous

 

[Local Hero]

Wow, this got pretty unbelievable pretty quick.

I'm the doctor, I'm guessing they seered me last night and want me out.

I protected 15 night one, Tubby last night (#TeamTubby), and WAS going to protect the medium tonight because I know who you are but sure, kill me and lose the medium protection along with ants info.

My best read on your wolves are Benzine, Ben, and Local.

Now this is an interesting rebuttal.

Ben's role is a random, non guaranteed role. Impossible, or just about, to dispute.

Doctor is a guaranteed role. If no doctor comes forward then we should switch to Ben.

And I'm not a wolf

 

[VashTheStampede]

 

[TD]

If there is any firm suspicion on who TD was aligning with on the previous day (which I know it's little to go on),

That's easy, Tubby.
#TeamTubby

Super suspicious allying with the aura seer and protecting him.

 

[TD]

I probably should, but I needed to get this out there before they get some townies to vote me then toss the shadow out there to guarantee my death.

 

[Ben]

Oh you definitely did the right thing

My only concern is now he's DEFINITELY gonna use his power today.

If I'm looking at it right, I think there are 9 of us straight up villagers left, with the cupid and random killer too. If I'm reading it right that only the wolf votes get doubled in the event the Shadow Wolf activates his power, the 4 of them would only get 8 votes.

If you trust me and everyone who knows they're a villager sticks with it through the darkness and votes TD, they wouldn't be able to swing it.

Ants - bearded lady
Ben - Bell ringer
Cole - Bell ringer

All random roles claimed. Would anyone like to dispute this?

We should go back and confirm if he actually claimed that role or if we're just misreading stuff. Then if someone wants to do the stats on how likely it is there are two, go ahead.

 

[VashTheStampede]

We should go back and confirm if he actually claimed that role or if we're just misreading stuff. Then if someone wants to do the stats on how likely it is there are two, go ahead.

He posted Disney gifs

That's basically DNA evidence in these games

 

[TD]

If you trust me and everyone who knows they're a villager sticks with it through the darkness and votes TD, they wouldn't be able to swing it.

Counterpoint: If one villager sticks with it and I get eight wolf votes on me, no more doctor.

 

[Tubby23]

Hmm both sides of this have merit, TD could be telling the truth and the Nightmare Wolf just got to me first and he's therefore telling the truth.

Alternatively, he would know the order of actions and be claiming that on the hope that no doctor steps forward.

So we weigh is Ben a wolf or TD

 

[TD]

Hmm both sides of this have merit, TD could be telling the truth and the Nightmare Wolf just got to me first and he's therefore telling the truth.

Who would've benefited the most from nightmaring you? Probably your top suspects.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Hmm both sides of this have merit, TD could be telling the truth and the Nightmare Wolf just got to me first and he's therefore telling the truth.

Alternatively, he would know the order of actions and be claiming that on the hope that no doctor steps forward.

So we weigh is Ben a wolf or TD

And also if TD is a wolf and the real doctor proves it, he's an obvious wolf target.

Ughhhhh

 

[TD]

Alternatively, he would know the order of actions and be claiming that on the hope that no doctor steps forward.

Why does order of actions matter? I stop you from getting killed, that's all.

 

[Tommy Boy]

But I  believe he could also technically be claiming Cupid based on which adaptation of Hunchback of Notre Dame you go with. Which would definitely be a Cole thing to do.

This is correct.

 

[TD]

Also this post has sus written all over it. Calling Ben into the thread specifically - and then Ben is the one who magically outs me after that? How could Benzine know what Ben is possibly going to say?

Not to mention - he's still talking about voting for the damn aura seer.

Post in thread 'GWF Wolf - Zell's Game 5 Night 2 / Day 2' https://gwforums.com/threads/gwf-wolf-zell’s-game-5-night-2-day-2.683/post-34717

My guess? Frame job to kill the doctor and the medium so the person Ants visited doesn't get exposed and they sacrificed Ben to do it.

 

[TD]

What impact would this have:

- Sacrifice wolf to kill doctor
- Kill medium to keep the ants info hidden
- Shadow wolf tomorrow

 

[Tubby23]

Why does order of actions matter? I stop you from getting killed, that's all.

Apologies I've misunderstood, but in going back to read you're correct it doesn't matter

 

[Benzine]

I am out and about seeing that baby and see that TD claimed doctor. I am the doctor.

Last night I successfully protected Tommy, due to the strength of his role claim. Tommy was targeted so probably is legit about his claim. This is why I was asking about other wolves killing earlier.

 

[Tubby23]

What impact would this have:

- Sacrifice wolf to kill doctor
- Kill medium to keep the ants info hidden
- Shadow wolf tomorrow

Complete and utter chaos and domination

 

[TD]

Hey look - suspect number one is now magically the doctor. Shocker.

 

[Tubby23]

Post in thread 'GWF Wolf - Zell's Game 5 Night 1/Day 1' https://gwforums.com/threads/gwf-wolf-zells-game-5-night-1-day-1.675/post-34240

Let's make Benzine a 9, Local stays the same, Ben's a 7, Tommy Boy goes to 8 and TD to 5.

Jawneh and Cole to 1/10

 

[Tubby23]

I vote Benzine

 

[TD]

My best guess at what's happening - They're worried about Ants and the Medium. Ben is probably the Shadow Wolf and since his ability is a one time use, he's the safrifice that makes the most sense. If the medium lives, they lose a wolf but this way they can control what wolf they're going to lose and at least kill the doctor and medium in the process.

Just remember - they could still shadow today. If they do, that wolf is effectively worthless.

All it takes is one vote on me plus the four wolves and you're out the doctor. The jailer isn't an option because then the medium can't talk to Ants. There's also the witch and her one time protection, but we also have an aura seer to protect.

I'm going to bed, see y'all tomorrow.

 

[Local Hero]

My best guess at what's happening - They're worried about Ants and the Medium. Ben is probably the Shadow Wolf and since his ability is a one time use, he's the safrifice that makes the most sense. If the medium lives, they lose a wolf but this way they can control what wolf they're going to lose and at least kill the doctor and medium in the process.

Just remember - they could still shadow today. If they do, that wolf is effectively worthless.

All it takes is one vote on me plus the four wolves and you're out the doctor. The jailer isn't an option because then the medium can't talk to Ants. There's also the witch and her one time protection, but we also have an aura seer to protect.

I'm going to bed, see y'all tomorrow.

I don't want to trust you but I will.

Vote Ben or Benzine?

 

[TD]

Oh and one last thing if I don't die today. Aura seer, check me tonight if you wish for everyone's piece of mind. You'll only see Good.

 

[Local Hero]

For now I'll match tubby's vote.

I vote @Benzine

 

[Benzine]

If I die you will die td, no matter what anyone says. I am the doctor and no one will believe you if I am lynched and that’s revealed.

I don’t mind dying, the medium will continue hopefully. If I am lynched please look to this post to remember that someone who is probably the solo killer attempted to kill Tommy.