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Zell Wolf GWF Wolf - Zell’s Game 4 Night 3/Day 3

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Smacktard said:
Kat, you're not making sense. The alchemist can give away two potions PER NIGHT. You said you got ONE red potion on Day 1.

Why would they give out ONLY a red potion to a COMPLETELY different person on the second night, and not give out a black potion?
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Because they picked me randomly the first night and thought Cole was a better target once they could pick a person. The other option is they didn't give out at all, which makes even less sense.
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Why did you not get a second red potion Day 2 after confirmed getting one Day 1? Is it the same reason you did not get a second red potion Day 3?
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Not if the reason today is that Raposa was jailed.

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The RK discussion is between Tubby/FQ/Raposa, one or two of whom could be villagers -- but not all three... I'm really trying to figure out your logic here.
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You said you killed a seer instead of Vash to prevent the other wolf from being exposed, because that was more valuable. I'm saying the other wolf was exposed no matter what, so that's not a useful kill, and definitely not more useful than killing Vash.
 
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A Torx Screw said:
But if you're really a Beast Hunter why would you left people know who you're protecting? That would just make them target someone else instead of potentially going directly into your trap.
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In Tubby's case he said it out of desperation because I was starting a vote against him.

Super convenient for him, as was pointed out yesterday
 
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A Torx Screw said:
But if you're really a Beast Hunter why would you left people know who you're protecting? That would just make them target someone else instead of potentially going directly into your trap.
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i wouldn't have revealed that info if someone else hadn't tried to claim my role

alternative answer: i am bad at this game as a player
 
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A Torx Screw said:
But if you're really a Beast Hunter why would you left people know who you're protecting? That would just make them target someone else instead of potentially going directly into your trap.
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This is a fair point. He was about to be lynched though so he was pretty desperate.

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Still curious as to why he would move it to me on night 2...
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Good question. It could make sense to move it since the first night was a random number pick, but why you? @Tubby23 what were you thinking?
 
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Kat said:
Because they picked me randomly the first night and thought Cole was a better target once they could pick a person. The other option is they didn't give out at all, which makes even less sense.
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So uhh if Cole was a better target, wouldn't it make more sense to use the black potion on them and kill them in one go rather than the red potion? Instead the black potion was used on FR who, up until that point, was completely unknown. Plus, you had claimed your role, and could see if they had killed someone if you seer'd them, so it would've made sense to target you again.

So basically it stands that the alchemist is making completely nonsensical moves.

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You said you killed a seer instead of Vash to prevent the other wolf from being exposed, because that was more valuable. I'm saying the other wolf was exposed no matter what, so that's not a useful kill
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well unfortunately i lack the power of clairvoyance.
 
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Kat said:
Not if the reason today is that Raposa was jailed.
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Well then I took a pretty big gamble by claiming that I was potioned when I did, right? And why didn't I post about the potion first thing in the morning? You must've heard from Zell at the same time as me, right? Easy solution: check the timings and see if they line up and you have your truth.
 
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Well then I took a pretty big gamble by claiming that I was potioned when I did, right? And why didn't I post about the potion first thing in the morning? You must've heard from Zell at the same time as me, right? Easy solution: check the timings and see if they line up and you have your truth.
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Kelly also updated that he received a potion BEFORE Vash announced he had jailed Raposa.

This timing is worth a consideration
 
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I should note I initially moved it to Local Hero but second guessed myself and changed it to Vash later.

Vash then started questioning that I had my protection set where I wanted and I responded multiple times saying I was happy with it.

I could give you a timeline of what times I've told Zell what through out the game but I suppose that would be considered as revealing DMs
 
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Yes.

There was some steps in between, night 1 not understanding the needs to be set for a night to be effective rule I went to move it to kut but asked Zell some clarification questions and confirmed that would leave Kelly unprotected so I changed my mind.

Then Night 2 I initially moved to LH but later changed my mind when I thought it looked like he'd receive other protection
 
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Tubby23 said:
I have organised for what I believe needs to be done yes.
It's a shame I left my random pick from Night 0 active last night on the off chance that the Wolves went after someone less obvious
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This was in yesterday's day phase. Couldn't have left it active and also have moved it.

Didn't have time to switch it to Vash and have it activated last night.
 
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