Zell Wolf GW Zell 17! Wolf - Day 3

[shortkut]

TD hasn't posted once

But has he posted more than once?

 

[ColoradoAvalancheFanMatt]

Well, I wouldn’t end the day phase quite yet. We still have hours to post and draw more info or suspicions. I’m just saying, tie the vote so no lynch

 

[shortkut]

Well, I wouldn’t end the day phase quite yet. We still have hours to post and draw more info or suspicions. I’m just saying, tie the vote so no lynch

That also works

 

[Zell 17]

But has he posted more than once?

Maybe

 

[Zell 17]

Skips:
shortkut

 

[shortkut]

Well, I wouldn’t end the day phase quite yet. We still have hours to post and draw more info or suspicions. I’m just saying, tie the vote so no lynch

@VashTheStampede @Local Hero any thoughts?

@A Loccal Hoo you’re being suspiciously quiet

 

[Advocate for Ants! Mouth]

@VashTheStampede @Local Hero any thoughts?

@A Loccal Hoo you’re being suspiciously quiet

Back to back meetings where I was unable to be a loccal hoo.


My thoughts:

Goodos: Vash & Local; me

One of you is good: rktaker or shortkut

One of you is also good: CAFM or Ben


I currently have voted for no one throughout the whole game and am hoping I can wind up with a pacifist badge as a result, but will actually jump in to vote if need be.

 

[Local Hero]

That’s what I’ve been arguing. Skip the vote

He means skip the rest of the time left, not skip the vote. He wants blood

 

[shortkut]

Back to back meetings where I was unable to be a loccal hoo.


My thoughts:

Goodos: Vash & Local; me

One of you is good: rktaker or shortkut

One of you is also good: CAFM or Ben


I currently have voted for no one throughout the whole game and am hoping I can wind up with a pacifist badge as a result, but will actually jump in to vote if need be.

So you have nothing to add other than proclaiming your own innocence

 

[Local Hero]

@VashTheStampede @Local Hero any thoughts?

@A Loccal Hoo you’re being suspiciously quiet

Thoughts on what, specifically? Skipping?

 

[ColoradoAvalancheFanMatt]

So you have nothing to add other than proclaiming your own innocence

This. @A Loccal Hoo has given us the least info out of anyone today outside of just “I’m townie, trust me.” What’s your role? Proof?

 

[shortkut]

Thoughts on what, specifically? Skipping?

Any of this. Skipping, Cafm’s suggestion of a tied vote so no lynch, my observation that cafm outted his role under the guise of himself being the next target

 

[Local Hero]

I think there's about a 50% chance that Ben is a wolf.

I think there's 100% chance that one of rktaker and shortkut are wolves (right 45/55 respectively)

Between the rest, CAFM and Alu, maybe like 40% chance that either are wolves. Maybe 45% CAFM and 35% Alu.

I don't really care if we skip it not

 

[shortkut]

The sooner I die, the sooner we get to Zell wolf 18

 

[Local Hero]

Skip

 

[VashTheStampede]

Not skipping, haven't done enough overthinking yet

 

[VashTheStampede]

Going purely on vibes before this day started I was most suspicious of CAFM and Ben

IIRC the last time I played with Ben he pretty much sat back and posted AI stuff until I killed him and he was a baddie.

Alu was slightly on my radar but not as much.

The fact that he isn't doing  anything actually leads me to think he might be cooking something.

Still considering.

 

[shortkut]

Going purely on vibes before this day started I was most suspicious of CAFM and Ben

IIRC the last time I played with Ben he pretty much sat back and posted AI stuff until I killed him and he was a baddie.

Alu was slightly on my radar but not as much.

The fact that he isn't doing  anything actually leads me to think he might be cooking something.

Still considering.

 

[Local Hero]

Going purely on vibes before this day started I was most suspicious of CAFM and Ben

IIRC the last time I played with Ben he pretty much sat back and posted AI stuff until I killed him and he was a baddie.

Alu was slightly on my radar but not as much.

The fact that he isn't doing  anything actually leads me to think he might be cooking something.

Still considering.

How about, regardless of the outcome of today's lynch, we kill Ben tomorrow.

 

[shortkut]

How about, regardless of the outcome of today's lynch, we kill Ben tomorrow.

I could live with that

 

[shortkut]

How about, regardless of the outcome of today's lynch, we kill Ben tomorrow.

I could live with that

Wait, if I’m innocent, then why would we let rkt off the hook and go for an unknown wolf? If it isn’t Ben, then the wolves win

 

[ColoradoAvalancheFanMatt]

I could live with that

Not if you die from lynching

 

[shortkut]

Not if you die from lynching

 

[Advocate for Ants! Mouth]

lmao if we lynch a bully today then tomorrow we lynch the pretender bully.

 

[shortkut]

lmao if we lynch a bully today then tomorrow we lynch the pretender bully.

Or the reverse

 

[Advocate for Ants! Mouth]

So you have nothing to add other than proclaiming your own innocence

I have no way of providing anything and specifically told Zell I was picking my role because I was trying to fail.

 

[Advocate for Ants! Mouth]

Or the reverse

If we lynch the pretender bully today why would we lynch the real bully tomorrow?

 

[shortkut]

I have no way of providing anything and specifically told Zell I was picking my role because I was trying to fail.

Then vote me and succeed at failing or don’t

 

[ColoradoAvalancheFanMatt]

Wait, if I’m innocent, then why would we let rkt off the hook and go for an unknown wolf? If it isn’t Ben, then the wolves win

You being innocent doesn’t necessarily make rkt guilty. If anything, we could absolutely find out he is bully tomorrow and then off Ben and/or Alu for the win

 

[shortkut]

If we lynch the pretender bully today why would we lynch the real bully tomorrow?

For the lulz?

 

[Advocate for Ants! Mouth]

You being innocent doesn’t necessarily make rkt guilty. If anything, we could absolutely find out he is bully tomorrow and then off Ben and/or Alu for the win

I can only win with the town.

What are the chances that there are two bullies who happened to target the same person at the same time with no one else claiming they were hit the entire time?


Also of note: there are 3 strong roles, right?

Bully is confirmed, with two people claiming it
Local is confirmed as Gunner
Ben is claiming detective


If somehow there are 2 bullies, then Ben is a wolf for sure because there aren't enough strong role. If Ben is the detective for real, then there's definitely only one bully.


@Zell 17 is it possible to have more than one of the same strong role in a game?

 

[shortkut]

I can only win with the town.

What are the chances that there are two bullies who happened to target the same person at the same time with no one else claiming they were hit the entire time?


Also of note: there are 3 strong roles, right?

Bully is confirmed, with two people claiming it
Local is confirmed as Gunner
Ben is claiming detective


If somehow there are 2 bullies, then Ben is a wolf for sure because there aren't enough strong role. If Ben is the detective for real, then there's definitely only one bully.


@Zell 17 is it possible to have more than one of the same strong role in a game?

 

[rktaker]

lmao if we lynch a bully today then tomorrow we lynch the pretender bully.

or we're both bullies and the other bully kills ben with a rock tomorrow

 

[shortkut]

or we're both bullies and the other bully kills ben with a rock tomorrow

then Alu gets hit the day after

 

[Advocate for Ants! Mouth]

or we're both bullies and the other bully kills ben with a rock tomorrow

So no matter what we end up with a dead wolf:

1. Lynch: get a wolf - YAY
2. Lynch: get a bully
   1. Second bully kills wolf tomorrow (during the day) YAY
   2. No bully kill tomorrow means no second bully meaning Ben is a wolf and lynch YAY
3. Wolves kill second bully tonight: Ben lynched definitely a wolf

 

[shortkut]

So no matter what we end up with a dead wolf:

1. Lynch: get a wolf - YAY
2. Lynch: get a bully
   1. Second bully kills wolf tomorrow (during the day) YAY
   2. No bully kill tomorrow means no second bully meaning Ben is a wolf and lynch YAY
3. Wolves kill second bully tonight: Ben lynched definitely a wolf

 

[Advocate for Ants! Mouth]

Wait lol - bullet 2.2 should read "second bully is a pretender" and not "Ben is a wolf"

 

[shortkut]

Wait lol - bullet 2.2 should read "second bully is a pretender" and not "Ben is a wolf"

So when I die and rkt doesn’t kill Ben tomorrow, you know he’s faking?

 

[Advocate for Ants! Mouth]

1. Lynch: get a wolf - YAY
2. Lynch: get a bully
   1. Second bully kills wolf tomorrow (during the day) YAY
   2. No bully kill tomorrow means no second bully meaning pretender and wolf and lynch YAY
3. Wolves kill second bully tonight: Ben lynched definitely a wolf YAY
4. Wolves kill Ben and Ben is detective tonight meaning second bully is a pretender and lynch YAY

 

[Advocate for Ants! Mouth]

So when I die and rkt doesn’t kill Ben tomorrow, you know he’s faking?

Yeah - at this point a second rock would kill Ben during the day phase and if he's really a bully he would have no excuse for waiting. If he's posting and not killing Ben, he's a faker.

 

[shortkut]

 

[Local Hero]

I have no way of providing anything and specifically told Zell I was picking my role because I was trying to fail.

Farmer? lol

 

[Zell 17]

Skips:
shortkut
Local Hero

 

[shortkut]

Farmer? lol

What crops are you harvesting?

 

[Local Hero]

What crops are you harvesting?

 

[VashTheStampede]

A lot of assuming that if we lynch a wolf it will actually die

 

[Advocate for Ants! Mouth]

A lot of assuming that if we lynch a wolf it will actually die

Which would be a fairly good reason to not want to get a lynch in today if we're currently targeting a wolf. Who may have been arguing against that earlier?

 

[shortkut]

Which would be a fairly good reason to not want to get a lynch in today if we're currently targeting a wolf. Who may have been arguing against that earlier?

 

[shortkut]

 

[rktaker]

who would have thought one rock throw would cause so much drama