Zell Wolf Discussion Thread v2

[Ants!]

Wait, so benzine really got the same role twice? The RNG had some real humor this time.

 

[Ants!]

Why was he never posting in here though?

 

[Ants!]

@Holly @Benzine are here for real this time

Never mind I answer my own question by reading this post the second time.

 

[Zell 17]

Never mind I answer my own question by reading this post the second time.

He was here earlier. I kicked him out during the day, and Mark made a mistake restoring his access for the night. I would have extended the night for him but he got killed anyways

 

[Cole]

why the fuck didn't Warp kill one last night? lol

 

[Zell 17]

Since everyone here is dead with no chance of return, Dean is definitely around. He wants people to think he ragequit to give his last post “raging” more credibility.

 

[Cole]

they seriously gonna drag this out that long?

hosts discretion. and the game

 

[Zell 17]

why the fuck didn't Warp kill one last night? lol

Got nightmared.

 

[Cole]

lame

 

[Cole]

his post had no credibility though. I called it out like 5 seconds after he posted it lol

 

[Zell 17]

they seriously gonna drag this out that long?

hosts discretion. and the game

I can’t tell them not to fight, they still think they have chances

 

[Cole]

...how lol

 

[Ants!]

If it were me, I would have conceded and allow everyone to get started on wolf game three by now.

 

[Ants!]

But I understand Zells position also

 

[Ryan!]

So wait, do the Wolves actually have a Berserk?

 

[Zell 17]

So wait, do the Wolves actually have a Berserk?

Yup. They used it on shortkut

 

[Ants!]

I guess they wanted Shortkut to extra die.

 

[Ryan!]

Yup. They used it on shortkut

They deserve to lose this if they used in on kut and not Cole

 

[Ryan!]

Cole was a confirmed townie with another kill. He was obviously going to be protected. They could have gotten two people out of that. Just wow.

 

[Cole]

Yup. They used it on shortkut

@TD

 

[Zell 17]

Cole was a confirmed townie with another kill. He was obviously going to be protected. They could have gotten two people out of that. Just wow.

Yeah they would have killed the jailer too. Think evils win the game if it’s a 7 v 5 without any bullets.

 

[Holly]

Cole was a confirmed townie with another kill. He was obviously going to be protected. They could have gotten two people out of that. Just wow.

In Wolf chat we all acknowledged it was a mistake. But kut had been seer'ed to be another seer. How were we to know there were FOUR seers?!

Anyway, yeah. That's why my Avenger was set on Cole. To get around any protection.

 

[Ants!]

@Zell 17 question about seers and PMs in case I role one next time: if you check somebody and they have a good aura, or blue if there was a wolf kill and solo kill, are you allowed to reach out to them privately?

 

[Zell 17]

@Zell 17 question about seers and PMs in case I role one next time: if you check somebody and they have a good aura, or blue if there was a wolf kill and solo kill, are you allowed to reach out to them privately?

Nope

 

[shortkut]

In Wolf chat we all acknowledged it was a mistake. But kut had been seer'ed to be another seer. How were we to know there were FOUR seers?!

Anyway, yeah. That's why my Avenger was set on Cole. To get around any protection.

I am honored that you inspected me second after Cole. It explains why you killed me overnight rather than leave me to be a potential lynch victim, but still would have made more sense to take out Cole

 

[Holly]

Yeah that was our mistake. We never inspected Cole, he revealed himself. Nearly berserked Cole instead but chose to do you.

 

[Zell 17]

@Awooo
@Raposa
@Ryan!
@Fool's Requiem
@canadaguy
@shortkut
@Benzine
@Warp
@Ants!
@Tommy Boy
@Cole
@Dean
@Tubby23
@VashTheStampede
@TD
@Holly

Should be open now

 

[Holly]

Well played.

 

[Cole]

hiiii guys

 

[Holly]

 

[shortkut]

hiiii guys

 

[Cole]

that's what you wanted me to do. instead I shot Ryan in the jester hat.

 

[TD]

If you had killed on night 0 I guarantee it would have been game over day one. TD would have seen I killed someone, would have called me incredibly suspicious, and gotten me lynched.

To be fair, I would have seen one of you or Ants killed someone. I would not have used that information outright to get you lynched. It would've changed how I observed and interacted with both of you, I would have sat on it until I had something more tangible knowing that I had time.

@TD

Saw that.. crazy, just, crazy.

 

[TD]

Also - this was a fun read, y'all are wild.

 

[Ants!]

To be fair, I would have seen one of you or Ants killed someone. I would not have used that information outright to get you lynched. It would've changed how I observed and interacted with both of you, I would have sat on it until I had something more tangible knowing that I had time.

Saw that.. crazy, just, crazy.

Alu told us you read me and Ryan first night. That would have been fun.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Based on this thread, I need practice. Even the dead chat was convinced I was a wolf.

The problem I see is that you are successful in convincing the town, you are proven wrong, and then lynched the next day. This is what I mean about miss information getting found out too easily.

This is like a major reason why I don't lie. I know I'll just get found out and don't really have the capabilities of talking my way out, because you're basically covering it up with more and more lies.

It's also one of my least favorite plot related tropes in movies and TV shows. Someone lying to cover shit up and never coming clean until someone finds out at the worst moment. I hate that trope.

Also, I think it's hilarious that I called Ryan being the Fool. Dude instantly mentions that we need to watch out for the Fool and I'm like, "Why would you say that if you weren't the Fool yourself?"

Also also, Vash being the Flower Girl seems super obvious in hindsight considering the numerous hippy mentions.

Also, don't regret protecting Vash night 0. 10/10 would do it again. Should have protected shortkut night 1 but I didn't expect the wolves to kill him if he was a townie. Went for who I thought was the Medium.

 

[Holly]

Based on this thread, I need practice. Even the dead chat was convinced I was a wolf.


This is like a major reason why I don't lie. I know I'll just get found out and don't really have the capabilities of talking my way out, because you're basically covering it up with more and more lies.

It's also one of my least favorite plot related tropes in movies and TV shows. Someone lying to cover shit up and never coming clean until someone finds out at the worst moment. I hate that trope.

Also, I think it's hilarious that I called Ryan being the Fool. Dude instantly mentions that we need to watch out for the Fool and I'm like, "Why would you say that if you weren't the Fool yourself?"

Also also, Vash being the Flower Girl seems super obvious in hindsight considering the numerous hippy mentions.

Also, don't regret protecting Vash night 0. 10/10 would do it again. Should have protected shortkut night 1 but I didn't expect the wolves to kill him if he was a townie. Went for who I thought was the Medium.

Same here, tbh. I'm *terrible* at lying. Even without lying I acted oddly enough this game that I was figured out before any of the other wolves.

 

[Ants!]

Priests need to take lessons from gunners.

 

[Ants!]

Also: revenge wolf picked Coleman both games.

 

[Raine]

Finally finished reading through this. Crazy how many ways it could've gone sideways real quick.

To reiterate from the other thread, I already had Cole set as the prisoner designation. Took a gamble that Random didn't land on Berserk and left it there; was wrong. But... yeah.

Was legitimately shocked that I wasn't killed after being Nightmare'd, though in a less solved game that would actually be a good play. The Jailer role was adjusted twice mid-game, with the most recent change/clarification being that the Day designation goes through, but it can't use its Night action. So, in this case, if @Dean hadn't already been outed as a wolf through process of elimination, he would have appeared blue to TD. Because he was in prison.

Just something to consider for future games.

Based on this thread, I need practice. Even the dead chat was convinced I was a wolf.

Same here, tbh. I'm *terrible* at lying. Even without lying I acted oddly enough this game that I was figured out before any of the other wolves.

Being "bad" at lying can work to your advantage, too. If you look at, say, the exchange I had with @Jawneh in FQ's game? I didn't decide he was a townie because he was good at lying, I figured it out because he lacked conviction and kept stumbling over his own internal logic. Putting little mistakes or inconsistencies in your posts can work well.

Phrasing can help, too. I wasn't in any real danger, but I went with "something amusing will happen when I die" this game. Which could imply Avenger (at death) or Flower Child (before death), neither of which were my role. But it's still a true statement, if a Seer gets involved, because it was Cole coming for me. And killing me would remove his already set protection, which I find amusing.

Whatever you lie about, keep it simple.

 

[Dean]

I'm taking a break for a while. This game pissed me off.

 

[Raposuh]

In response to Zell, I was planning to start my role claiming day 2 as beast hunter. I simply didn't expect that many seers in the game with the perfect targets to verify every single townie. Now I know this style of game I'll need to role claim early and often as an evil.

Not berserking Cole was an admitted mistake, everybody expected us to target Cole so I hoped the tough guy was protecting a seer instead.

 

[Raposuh]

Was also expecting at least 2 kills from the RK that night to help us narrow things down. I wanted to leave Cole alive as gunner with his suspicions on Holly so he'd get taken out with her, and then hopefully lead the town against the RK.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

I'm taking a break for a while. This game pissed me off.

sorry, Dean

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Being "bad" at lying can work to your advantage, too. If you look at, say, the exchange I had with @Jawneh in FQ's game? I didn't decide he was a townie because he was good at lying, I figured it out because he lacked conviction and kept stumbling over his own internal logic. Putting little mistakes or inconsistencies in your posts can work well.

Phrasing can help, too. I wasn't in any real danger, but I went with "something amusing will happen when I die" this game. Which could imply Avenger (at death) or Flower Child (before death), neither of which were my role. But it's still a true statement, if a Seer gets involved, because it was Cole coming for me. And killing me would remove his already set protection, which I find amusing.

Whatever you lie about, keep it simple.

I just need to be better at being vague. My form of "lying" is just avoiding telling the truth by not saying anything and hoping people forget I exist. It works IRL, BTW.

 

[Ants!]

I'm taking a break for a while. This game pissed me off.

Why?

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Why?

It's all your fault.

 

[Raposuh]

I mean, I'm pretty convinced TD is your Spirit Seer. He dropped enough clues to lead me that way. He's worth protecting if you want to win. If canadaguy actually is a second Aura Seer, then I'm unsure about the RK. Maybe look at whoever was jumping on my Cole is the RK kill him play. Kut is almost certainly a baddie. Whether a Wolf or RK I don't know. I thought canadaguy went with my Kill Cole rant too quickly, which made me think he's actually the RK and was getting heat off of himself. Dean is busy, so I have no clue on him. Raposa has been pretty silent, which is shady.

I was working!

Wolves refusing to use that ability is still a sore spot for me after the last game. Lol

We used it! Poorly!

Yeah, I thought if I died at night it would be from a pro-town role, not from the wolves. I handed myself over on a silver platter to be lynched so that the wolves wouldn’t bother trying to kill me. Everyone was ready to lynch me

When I went to bed that night I had voted to slay CG after activating my Berserk. When I woke up everyone else was voting kut cuz he was found to be a seer so I rolled with it.

The Wolves have a Berserker, could easily guess someone would be protecting Cole, and decided it wasn't worth pulling the trigger and went for kut who already had a ton of suspicion on him?

Dean is smarter than this. Dean is way better a player than this. He has to be smashing his head against a wall right now.

Tbf to the wolf team there was a whollllle lot of IRL stuff getting in the way of our plans. I worked the entire game for starters.

 

[A Punched Face]

Hey wolfos. Any reason why you killed me night 1 or was it just because you couldn't bother to go past the first name on the list just?

 

[Raposuh]

We joked about going alphabetically but then tubby seered you and you can back aura seer soooooo