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I just thought about it @Jawneh and @Jon, the wolves can absolutely still win here. But it would take a kind of counter-intuitive play.

Dean can outvote TD at night, so he is the sole determiner of who the wolves kill. After lynching out Tubby today, there will be 6 villagers left. Now it would be tempting to kill Raine and try to get a mislynch to win as a wolf, but that's a losing play and Dean doesn't have enough cred once Tubby shows good.

The real play is to kill Tommy. Then, the next day, it's Raine+TD vs Dean vs Kat/Benzine. Dean can push Raine as a wolf. Her claim sucks and Kat/Benzine may actually go for it. Or they could vote out TD who Benzine knows is a wolf. Then Dean kills anyone at night and it's good game, wolf victory.
 

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The weird thing about these wolf/townie cupid games is its not the solo cupid role that is doing all the mastermind work. They birthed the baby and are now just a passenger. It's the wolf that has access to all the chats that has to do most of the work. I greatly empathize with TD in this game of course.
 

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I just thought about it @Jawneh and @Jon, the wolves can absolutely still win here. But it would take a kind of counter-intuitive play.

Dean can outvote TD at night, so he is the sole determiner of who the wolves kill. After lynching out Tubby today, there will be 6 villagers left. Now it would be tempting to kill Raine and try to get a mislynch to win as a wolf, but that's a losing play and Dean doesn't have enough cred once Tubby shows good.

The real play is to kill Tommy. Then, the next day, it's Raine+TD vs Dean vs Kat/Benzine. Dean can push Raine as a wolf. Her claim sucks and Kat/Benzine may actually go for it. Or they could vote out TD who Benzine knows is a wolf. Then Dean kills anyone at night and it's good game, wolf victory.
I mean you know more than I do at this point, but Dean can't vote unless he drops his power. has he done that yet?

And I don't know if Dean is gonna metagame this that hard to out maneuver TD like that. I don't think it matters overall, I don't personally care who wins at this point.

The village can't really without some serious missteps, as far as I see it.
 

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Dean has just got to vote Tommy tonight and the town gets to pick between a wolf win and a cupid win. Yay!
My biggest issue with Cupid, it can easily lead to Kingmaker endings which are my biggest pet peeve in social games.
 

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And I don't know if Dean is gonna metagame this that hard to out maneuver TD like that
Is it metagaming? It just sounds like the natural solution to the corner TD has painted himself into. Dean's clearly been investing a lot into the game, and there's no point remaining a wolf seer when all the roles are likely known by this point.
 

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Is it metagaming? It just sounds like the natural solution to the corner TD has painted himself into. Dean's clearly been investing a lot into the game, and there's no point remaining a wolf seer when all the roles are likely known by this point.
I was in the chat and both Dean and I deferred to TDs knowledge a lot. I'm not sure Dean can brainpower himself out of it. I hope he does. Not only is it a win for me, but he easily gets my MVP vote.
 

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I was in the chat and both Dean and I deferred to TDs knowledge a lot. I'm not sure Dean can brainpower himself out of it. I hope he does. Not only is it a win for me, but he easily gets my MVP vote.
I'll be hugely disappointed if he doesn't. He has an easy path to victory here, and if he doesn't kill Tommy tonight it's ashes
 

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I'll be hugely disappointed if he doesn't. He has an easy path to victory here, and if he doesn't kill Tommy tonight it's ashes
Honestly all Dean has to do is throw TD under the bus from the sheriff reads, then kill someone at night, and then try to get the town to lynch tubby because he already provided a wolf in TD and removed the couple from play. It might give him a chance
 

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As I said before, if the couple wins, Dean is the MVP because his missteps sealed their victory instead of wolf or town
...also his ACTUAL steps helped eliminate the town from contention.

Let's not be totally negative. He had a very effective game almost too effective
 

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I feel like Cupid works better in Amogus. There is no Cupid, just two lovers. Plus games are faster so its not as frustrating if you get screwed over. They're never on the same team, and wolves and killing crewmembers can still lead to double kills. It's actually pretty hard to stay alive as lovers because you have to keep yourself alive, while hoping your lover does the same.
 
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