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He didn’t know local wasn’t the SK and local had messed up his role, which should have made him suspicious to Ben as well
We assumed Kat was the SK the whole time. I didn't know, but it was unlikely the SK was still out there.

Every time I said they might have been was me trying to lie.
 

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But I was trying to take out people I thought were most likely to figure stuff out, which admittedly left me blind to the actual threat of a wolf/town pairing.

I pulled rank on FR to kill Smacktard, which I realize now was because he wanted to save cupid, but I was hoping to play off my unknown aura with a flagger claim of moving a kill onto someone who wasn't active. That just got fucked up by dimmerwit getting to the thread before me, and outing me as same team as Kat. Which, wouldn't have happened if FR didn't Trickster her specifically.

And maybe I was adhering to Christina's desire to protect cg from the jump. Just didn't ever pop in my mind as a target. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Whole game was obfuscating balls in my face.
 

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I pulled rank on FR to kill Smacktard, which I realize now was because he wanted to save cupid
Actually, we had no idea who Cupid was. We aren't told, and Kelly never seemed to tease it. For a bit, I was thinking kut or Quagmire was Cupid.

I wanted to kill someone who could detect us. Which is exactly what happened when dimmerwit found that you and Kat was on the same team. I didn't see Kelly as a threat at the moment. Same with Alu and Local. Only kut and dimmerwit.

Surprisingly, it didn't hurt us. Not as wolves, and not as Cupid, but I totally thought the town had the win in the bag. Both CG and Benzine can attest that I was lementing over the fact that the game was pretty much over.
 

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Actually, we had no idea who Cupid was. We aren't told, and Kelly never seemed to tease it. For a bit, I was thinking kut or Quagmire was Cupid.

I wanted to kill someone who could detect us. Which is exactly what happened when dimmerwit found that you and Kat was on the same team. I didn't see Kelly as a threat at the moment. Same with Alu and Local. Only kut and dimmerwit.

Surprisingly, it didn't hurt us. Not as wolves, and not as Cupid, but I totally thought the town had the win in the bag. Both CG and Benzine can attest that I was lementing over the fact that the game was pretty much over.
Word. I didn't reread the role but thought you guys got informed of who paired you. Might be thinking of the instigator role though.

In retrospect I should have gone after dimmerwit but I gambled that I wasn't being sus enough to check over someone else. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Next opportunity, bro is dinnerwit.
 
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Benzine Wolf 5Smacktardcanadaguy (Witch)Fool's (Wolf Trickster)Smacktard eaten on night 4. Couple wins.
Zell Wolf 20JonAlu (Aura Seer)Quagmire (Ritualist)Quagmire eaten by Wolf on night 2. Alu revived but wolves win.
Zell Wolf 17TDKat (Priest)Tommy Boy (Arsonist)TD shot randomly by Local Hero on day 1. Town wins.
Zell Wolf 11Tommy BoyTD (Nightmare Wolf)Raine (Detective)Nothing happened and everyone had a fantastic time.
Zell Wolf 9shortkutVash (Witch)Alu (Avenger)Vash eaten on night 4. shortkut survives to the end. Town wins.
Zell Wolf 5ColeChristina (Wolf Trickster)Vash (Medium)Christina killed in jail by Tommy on night 5. Cole survives to the end. Town wins.
 

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Benzine Wolf 5Smacktardcanadaguy (Witch)Fool's (Wolf Trickster)Smacktard eaten on night 4. Couple wins.
Zell Wolf 20JonAlu (Aura Seer)Quagmire (Ritualist)Quagmire eaten by Wolf on night 2. Alu revived but wolves win.
Zell Wolf 17TDKat (Priest)Tommy Boy (Arsonist)TD shot randomly by Local Hero on day 1. Town wins.
Zell Wolf 11Tommy BoyTD (Nightmare Wolf)Raine (Detective)Nothing happened and everyone had a fantastic time.
Zell Wolf 9shortkutVash (Witch)Alu (Avenger)Vash eaten on night 4. shortkut survives to the end. Town wins.
Zell Wolf 5ColeChristina (Wolf Trickster)Vash (Medium)Christina killed in jail by Tommy. Cole survives to the end. Town wins.
There was another game, maybe not completed...run by Ben? I was paired with Zell and we were on good pace to win it with the scenarios all mapped out but then there were accidental shenanigans where a bunch of people died and we were incorrectly included in it and outed.

I've been cupided 3 times lol. I forgot about the time where I was revived.
 

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There was another game, maybe not completed...run by Ben? I was paired with Zell and we were on good pace to win it with the scenarios all mapped out but then there were accidental shenanigans where a bunch of people died and we were incorrectly included in it and outed.

I've been cupided 3 times lol. I forgot about the time where I was revived.
I've never prematurely arsoned, what do you mean?
 

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I still blame shortkut for messaging me his action prior to the night phase.

Also my lack of brain.
 
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Yeah, i get ya. I was just explaining why that felt like such an unforced error to me.
The assumption is that the wolf trickster wouldn’t use their ability on someone that they know is 100% solo, because what’s the point? It doesn’t help you mask your team or mask your role. It’s essentially a total waste of the trickster power.

And even in this game, the trickster is paired to a witch! That’s a perfect combo to have the witch kill a villager and FR appears good for all time.

But basically every time we’ve had a SK or arsonist in the game they’ve tried to kill the entire village at once. Playing the probabilities it seemed more likely. Frankly I was 100% all in on lynching FR until he came out so hard saying he wasn’t solo which I didn’t think him capable of doing.
 

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The assumption is that the wolf trickster wouldn’t use their ability on someone that they know is 100% solo, because what’s the point? It doesn’t help you mask your team or mask your role. It’s essentially a total waste of the trickster power.

Is that not an assumption that the Trickster knew the role of their target?

I think there's value in just blindly using Trickster to cause confusion/help hide.

But basically every time we’ve had a SK or arsonist in the game they’ve tried to kill the entire village at once.

Yeah I'm just built different (incorrectly)
 

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The assumption is that the wolf trickster wouldn’t use their ability on someone that they know is 100% solo, because what’s the point? It doesn’t help you mask your team or mask your role. It’s essentially a total waste of the trickster power.

And even in this game, the trickster is paired to a witch! That’s a perfect combo to have the witch kill a villager and FR appears good for all time.

But basically every time we’ve had a SK or arsonist in the game they’ve tried to kill the entire village at once. Playing the probabilities it seemed more likely. Frankly I was 100% all in on lynching FR until he came out so hard saying he wasn’t solo which I didn’t think him capable of doing.
So, as I explained it to the wolves, Kat was the only one likely to be shmurdered by townies and I NEEDED to be masked as something or dimmerwit and shortkut were going to find out. I figured, being Unknown was better than being Evil. There are a few "Unknown" townie roles as well as Fool and Headhunter. I suggested to CG that he use his potion on Kat to pretty much confirm a kill. Luckily, you killed her for me, so CG didn't waste a shot.

I was certain that I needed to broadcast my target change in wolf chat, not in private, so I needed a logical target with plenty of plausible deniability. If I said I was swapping to some random townie with no sus and then it's revealed that the Witch has killed them, Jon and Ben would likely INSTANTLY realize what the fuck was going on. Initially, I had my target on sandwich/dimmerwit, but he was all but confirmed to be good so no townies were killing him and I couldn't count on the SK to kill so early unless it was the Evil Dick.

I was also kinda hoping Kat was Cupid. That way kut could use his ability to reveal that I was Good while masking the existence of Cupid (even though that would eliminate the 3 person voting block).

Is that not an assumption that the Trickster knew the role of their target?
Only thing I knew was that the town knew she was on a different team from Tommy who was the gunner. 50/50 SV/SK chance.
 
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So, as I explained it to the wolves, Kat was the only one likely to be shmurdered by townies and I NEEDED to be masked as something or dimmerwit and shortkut were going to find out. I figured, being Unknown was better than being Evil. There are a few "Unknown" townie roles as well as Fool and Headhunter. I suggested to CG that he use his potion on Kat to pretty much confirm a kill. Luckily, you killed her for me, so CG didn't waste a shot.

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There is no value in masking yourself as a solo though. All possible good unknowns were accounted for, so showing as unknown would broadcast you as a solo killer. Dimmerwit couldn’t be fooled by the masking either.
 

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There is no value in masking yourself as a solo though. All possible good unknowns were accounted for, so showing as unknown would broadcast you as a solo killer. Dimmerwit couldn’t be fooled by the masking either.
At that point was cupid already known?
 

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There is no value in masking yourself as a solo though. All possible good unknowns were accounted for, so showing as unknown would broadcast you as a solo killer. Dimmerwit couldn’t be fooled by the masking either.
except he was.

And we didn't know what the SV was. Say Kelly isn't murdered, I could skate through pretending to be Fool or Headhunter. An outed Fool is a harmless Fool. Kelly would be shown as Good if checked by kut.

"Unknown" had more value than "Evil" and I can't just broadcast a target change to have a Witch randomly kill that target with no sus. Jon and Kat had MUCH more aus on them. There was no way a Witch was killing anyone but them.

Also, the plan worked. Much better than I even anticipated.
 
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except he was.

And we didn't know what the SV was. Say Kelly isn't murdered, I could skate through pretending to be Fool or Headhunter. An outed Fool is a harmless Fool.
An outted Fool or Headhunter is impossible unless revealed by loudmouth or the solo killer is confirmed dead. They are identical to a solo killer in every way to every seer role.
 
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