VTS Mafia VTS Mafia Night 2/Day 2

[Cole]

Just read through, have a couple TD things I could respond to, including a recipe request

I think Zell was successfully button pushed into making ill advised posts that raised the suspicion level on him. I'm not sure it quite warrants a death sentence yet, but if it continues I could be convinced.

You're not playing a different game, as Zell said. You're still well within the realm of Cole.

I mean every game I play I'm within the realm of Cole. ...I'm the one doing it.

and I'm not so sure, I think Zell is too mature to be aggravated that much by an accusation.

but it wouldn't be a death sentence yet, would it? there would still be a trial.

 

[TD]

If Cole is the dirty cop, we don’t want him in jail, we want the gumshoe to find him so he converts to the town side before the mafia finds him

@VashTheStampede
If both the gumshoe and mafia seer target the dirty cop the same night, what happens?

 

[Cole]

Guilty

valid, valid.

If Cole is the dirty cop, we don’t want him in jail, we want the gumshoe to find him so he converts to the town side before the mafia finds him

also valid. any suggestions for the gumshoe as to who you'd wanna check?

 

[VashTheStampede]

Timestamps, baby. Timestamps.

 

[Cole]

Timestamps, baby. Timestamps.

...can we switch that to a coin flip at least? as experienced with Zell, going by time isn't fair in this day and age.

 

[TD]

Timestamps, baby. Timestamps.

Would jail stop it?

 

[shortkut]

valid, valid.

also valid. any suggestions for the gumshoe as to who you'd wanna check?

I’d want the gumshoe to check you if they haven’t yet. As I said before, you should be an early check as you could be a powerful ally or a very dangerous enemy. Assuming they already checked you, I’d check TD to see if we make the correct decision at trial and then we can judge the jury and their votes. I’m not sure how the trial is supposed to work, but this might be a way to gain information from it

 

[A Punched Face]

I mean every game I play I'm within the realm of Cole. ...I'm the one doing it.

and I'm not so sure, I think Zell is too mature to be aggravated that much by an accusation.

but it wouldn't be a death sentence yet, would it? there would still be a trial.

That's fair. It's how I read through it today, but it was a bit of a quicker read at the end of the long day so I could need to reread tomorrow.

And yeah. Not a death sentence. A sentence to potentially be sentenced to a death sentence. I can be convinced to go at least that far. Would need more for the final verdict at this point.

 

[TD]

 

[Jawneh]

Welp. I've gotten myself into playing a lot of Baldurs Gate 3. My whole day before work got sunk into that and I do not regret it at all. Great game.

One thing to note. I don't remember if anyone ever brought it up on day 1, but as the roles of the killed folks were not made public, there is a small chance that one of the good killers got a mafia hit. It's juts that we won't be able to tell until we've officially killed 3. And then we'd win. Would be cool right?

Also next a suggestion for the next Vash game. To make the trial more infor.ative and meaningful, maybe something like forcing the defendant tell the truth would be cool. And to balance that so that it's not just 24h if intense grilling, maybe only 1 directed question per juror for the defendant. They can twist the truth as much as they want or brilliantly dodge or misdirect as long as the person who asked the question doesn't contest it.


Now for today, voting Zell. I have an idea thanks to ZvsC today, but I need more info to entertain it.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Would jail stop it?

If you mean if the dirty cop was jailed, then no, jail does not stop an investigation

 

[TD]

If you mean if the dirty cop was jailed, then no, jail does not stop an investigation

So if a jailed cop was checked by a seer, they'd still join said team? Right?

 

[VashTheStampede]

Correct

 

[TD]

 

[TD]

In that case I change my vote back to Tubby.

 

[VashTheStampede]

 

[TD]

Gumshoe if you're out there and you haven't checked Cole for some reason, we should probably check him.

 

[Jawneh]

So @TD, would I be able to become an honorary Canadian because I like a bit of ananas on my food circle, as Canada is the birthplace of it.

 

[TD]

So @TD, would I be able to become an honorary Canadian because I like a bit of ananas on my food circle, as Canada is the birthplace of it.

 

[Joseph Snapple]

Hey I'm home, and that was once again a lot.

First things first, not guilty for TD.

Going to go over some stuff again before any kind of arrest vote.

 

[TD]

Now Tubby doesn't even need to provide a verdict and his was the one I was most intrigued by.

 

[Joseph Snapple]

Is there a way to view only a specific poster's posts in a thread.

 

[Local Hero]

I clock on the members profile and click posting. Easy enough to scroll through

 

[TD]

Is there a way to view only a specific poster's posts in a thread.

I'm not sure about that, you can view ALL posts from a profile but if they've posted a bunch in other places it'll get annoying.

 

[Tubby23]

Is there a way to view only a specific poster's posts in a thread.

Click on the number of replies to a thread and then the number of responses next to each persons name

 

[canadaguy]

Is there a way to view only a specific poster's posts in a thread.

Yes

 

[shortkut]

Is there a way to view only a specific poster's posts in a thread.

VTS Mafia Night 2/Day 2 - Members Who Replied this thread

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[TD]

@Benzine

@Fire Queen

 

[canadaguy]

Hey @TD hows that freedom taste?

 

[TD]

Hey @TD hows that freedom taste?

 

[Ants!]

Is there a way to view only a specific poster's posts in a thread.

 

[Benzine]

@Benzine

@Fire Queen

what

 

[shortkut]

what

Did you step in gum?

 

[TD]

Okay, I'm going to just say this and go to bed.

I have extremely reasonable belief that Cole is the dirty cop and is actively trying to get recruited by the mob.

There is nothing that can be done to stop recruitment. If our gumshoe is alive and has not checked him - I'm not going to argue why you didn't but you need to do that ASAP as the town cannot afford to lose the dirty cop to the mob. Apparently this is based off timestamps.

Even if they off him when we do this, the mob gaining one more person is a far bigger risk than the town losing the dirty cop.

If the dirty cop is converted tonight and the vigilante does not kill a mafia member, it's literally game over.

 

[Cole]

Okay, I'm going to just say this and go to bed.

I have extremely reasonable belief that Cole is the dirty cop and is actively trying to get recruited by the mob.

There is nothing that can be done to stop recruitment. If our gumshoe is alive and has not checked him - I'm not going to argue why you didn't but you need to do that ASAP as the town cannot afford to lose the dirty cop to the mob. Apparently this is based off timestamps.

Even if they off him when we do this, the mob gaining one more person is a far bigger risk than the town losing the dirty cop.

If the dirty cop is converted tonight and the vigilante does not kill a mafia member, it's literally game over.

fascinating, fascinating stuff.

first flaw in your plan is that if I finally had a solo role, I'd be doing my damndest to win as a solo. but that's a whole nother conversation.

I BEG you to go into complete detail in this theory of yours.

 

[Benzine]

Did you step in gum?

No but rest assured I am doing everything in my power to win the game for the town.

So leave me alone

 

[Tubby23]

Now Tubby doesn't even need to provide a verdict and his was the one I was most intrigued by.

I still technically have to provide one if I want to not get punished but I get your point. I've just started my lunch break and will just take 10-15 mins to read the rest of the thread since my last post so I can render a true and honest vote.

 

[shortkut]

No but rest assured I am doing everything in my power to win the game for the town.

So leave me alone

 

[Tubby23]

OK so I'm not sure I quite follow the idea that Cole may be the Bad Cop, but I am also not sure that TD thinking so means more than trying to come up with ideas.

At this stage I'm not convinced there is enough evidence to send TD off to death so I will vote Not Guilty

@VashTheStampede could we have an updated vote count if you're awake?

 

[TD]

fascinating, fascinating stuff.

first flaw in your plan is that if I finally had a solo role, I'd be doing my damndest to win as a solo. but that's a whole nother conversation.

I BEG you to go into complete detail in this theory of yours.

As you wish.

 

[TD]

if it was the bad cop, this to me is the most plausible.

if he wants to win as WOLF, maybe he takes the shot. he has a higher chance of hitting a townie, so maybe he risks it. but if his intention is to win solo, why not take the random shot? he has no allies, no matter how many times the gumshoe calls,, no matter how Aluring is The Consigliere.

why not take the shot?

I have a feeling we have a bad cop. and if we do, he's out of ammo.

IF I AM RIGHT the threat of the bad cop is effectively gone.

And lastly, maybe I'm a dick

okay, I am a Dick.

"Alu you should go back and read everything"
"Alu make sure you read up until X"

Cole suspects Alu is mafia and is trying to get Alu to recruit him.

I wouldn't trust where he's going with this.

Vigilante if you're out there - kill the dirty cop. He's no use to us trying to get actively recruited by the mob.

 

[shortkut]

"Alu you should go back and read everything"
"Alu make sure you read up until X"

Cole suspects Alu is mafia and is trying to get Alu to recruit him.

I wouldn't trust where he's going with this.

Vigilante if you're out there - kill the dirty cop. He's no use to us trying to get actively recruited by the mob.

Your theory suggests he has not been recruited yet, so it makes more sense for the gumshoe to investigate Cole, if he is the dirty cop, ASAP so he gets to him before the mob. Why kill him if he hasn’t been recruited yet, unless he has been recruited, but by the town and now the mafia wants him gone… Could @Ants! have been right with his jury vote?

 

[Cole]

"Alu you should go back and read everything"
"Alu make sure you read up until X"

Cole suspects Alu is mafia and is trying to get Alu to recruit him.

I wouldn't trust where he's going with this.

Vigilante if you're out there - kill the dirty cop. He's no use to us trying to get actively recruited by the mob.

fascinating, fascinating stuff.

it's lucky for you you agreed to be the guinea pig and in doing so knew you were more likely to get not guilty votes, wasmt it?

 

[Cole]

Your theory suggests he has not been recruited yet, so it makes more sense for the gumshoe to investigate Cole, if he is the dirty cop, ASAP so he gets to him before the mob. Why kill him if he hasn’t been recruited yet, unless he has been recruited, but by the town and now the mafia wants him gone… Could @Ants! have been right with his jury vote?

valid, valid arguments. if only they could really read the clues, eh shortkut?

 

[shortkut]

valid, valid arguments. if only they could really read

You could have stopped typing here

Either way, I think the gumshoe should investigate TD next, because it is probably pointless to investigate Cole at this point

 

[Tubby23]

I didn't even consider gaming us because caution is likely Day 1

 

[Cole]

You could have stopped typing here

Either way, I think the gumshoe should investigate TD next, because it is probably pointless to investigate Cole at this point

actually I'm starting to wonder if the Judge might should step in here. my writeup tomorrow morning is gonna be a doozie.

 

[shortkut]

I didn't even consider gaming us because caution is likely Day 1

If Cole is right in his implication that TD wanted to be the Guinea pig because we’ve all been conditioned to abstain night 1, it’s possible he could be mafia with a lawyer in his back pocket to safe him if we get bloodthirsty

 

[shortkut]

actually I'm starting to wonder if the Judge might should step in here. my writeup tomorrow morning is gonna be a doozie.

Is the judge a guaranteed role?

 

[TD]

Cole is the dirty cop.
Tubby is mafia.
shortkut is either mafia or can't see through Cole's bullshit.
Cole doesn't think Zell is mafia, he just wants him dead.

Gumshoing me is a waste of time. I'm a generic citizen and the mob will probably kill me soon anyhow so they can talk themselves out of it because I'm once again surrounded by a bunch of quiet townies - again.