VTS Mafia The Morgue (Year 2)

[Christina]

Isn't that an interesting way to date yourself.

 

[TD]

Didn't he claim peeping Tom? But if the animal clue is real, then Tommy Boy is the peeping Tom (he said he got the clue when Benzine died), which means Fool is lying.

Was his clue when Benzine died? I missed that.

@VashTheStampede
Would the clue you get from a mafia member killed by the bomber be for a mafia member who is alive?

 

[TD]

Isn't that an interesting way to date yourself.

 

[Kat]

Pizza doesn't sound bad, hmm.

 

[TD]

Friday night pizza is always a winner.

 

[TD]

I got more notes per person. Will share soon.

 

[Christina]

I've been seeing that going as a blockbuster employee for Halloween tend so if you still have your uniform you're good!

 

[TD]

I've been seeing that going as a blockbuster employee for Halloween tend so if you still have your uniform you're good!

Uniform!?

I still have my name tag.

 

[Kat]

Was his clue when Benzine died? I missed that.

@VashTheStampede
Would the clue you get from a mafia member killed by the bomber be for a mafia member who is alive?

So he says:

VTS Mafia - Mafia Legacy Year Two (Night 2/Day 2)

All these kangaroo badges Totally glad I didn't get one *ahem*

gwforums.com

 

[TD]

So he says:

VTS Mafia - Mafia Legacy Year Two (Night 2/Day 2)

All these kangaroo badges Totally glad I didn't get one *ahem*

gwforums.com

Iiiiinteresting.

Here's who mentioned animals on Day 1:
Post in thread 'The Morgue (Year 2)' https://gwforums.com/threads/the-morgue-year-2.918/post-53733

I gotta go read Day 2.

 

[TD]

...what happens if a mafioso doesn't use their tell?

 

[TD]

Also I'm calling us KaTD.

 

[Christina]

...what happens if a mafioso doesn't use their tell?

They are outed by Vash

 

[TD]

Now for the theory that brings me pain...

#TeamTubby

 

[Kat]

@VashTheStampede
Would the clue you get from a mafia member killed by the bomber be for a mafia member who is alive?

I want to say he got this question in the day thread and said the clue would be for someone still alive. I don't think that's Benzine's tell anyway. Plus Benzine claimed his tell was the most obvious and that one isn't obvious at all (but then again Benzine is evil so who knows if that's even true).

 

[Kat]

Yep, here it is:

Post in thread 'Mafia Legacy Year Two (Night 2/Day 2)' https://gwforums.com/threads/mafia-legacy-year-two-night-2-day-2.938/post-54228

 

[Kat]

I kinda want the mad bomber to win.

 

[TD]

After Day 2 - Tubby has no discernible tell. His post was simple and to the point likely establishing he is not mafia.

Here's where things get interesting though..

Tubby disappeared right after post 30.
Then I surpassed 30.
canadaguy suggested I was the bomber to which I said it would make no sense for the bomber to surpass 30.
canadaguy surpasses 30 - and I find out I've been shushed.
There are two people past 30.
The bomber can only target people with the same or less posts of them.
BUT with two potential shush candidates... it would make sense to go over 30 to get shushed and ensure no one suspects you. Insanely ballsy but an incredible payoff if it works.

...then things get even more interesting.
I die. One shush option gone.
canadaguy and Tubby both claim to be shushed.
Benzine blows up!
Benzine is 1000% someone Tubby would target. I believe this whole heartedly.

It's not the logical target though because it eliminates 4 bomber candidates right then and there. However, Tubby could worry about Benzine.

Enter Tubby's post.
A quick and dirty guilty vote for FR because he has no loyalties. No explanation. If FR is mafia, they're down to 2 and he's SO CLOSE already.

canadaguy reveals to not be shushed and the likely librarian.

Time for Tubby to panic because he's got no one limited to one post.
But then Joseph Snapple DOES NOT POST.

It gives him a target by pure chance. He's under the radar now and could pull it off. But maybe Benzine seered him before he got blown up and the mafia knows who it is.

I would go all in that Snapple is the next one bombed.

I fully believe Tubby is the mad bomber.

 

[TD]

Enter Alu who tries to hint that Tubby has a tell in that post. Bullshit he does. You probably know he's the bomber and want him dead.

I'm not sure specifically about his tell but he's been very obsessed with numbers.

 

[Benzine]

good luck dean you are going to need it

 

[TD]

I'm not certain about Alu - huge vibes and something big is off about his posts.

 

[Kat]

Tubby disappeared right after post 30.
Then I surpassed 30.
canadaguy suggested I was the bomber to which I said it would make no sense for the bomber to surpass 30.
canadaguy surpasses 30 - and I find out I've been shushed.
There are two people past 30.
The bomber can only target people with the same or less posts of them.
BUT with two potential shush candidates... it would make sense to go over 30 to get shushed and ensure no one suspects you. Insanely ballsy but an incredible payoff if it works.

Mmm I like this theory a lot. Going over 30 reduces the heat for sure.

Enter Alu who tries to hint that Tubby has a tell in that post

I didn't feel like he was hinting at that. It's just good sense to check the single post of a shushed person for tells.

 

[TD]

I gotta go look at Day 2 but some takes of note:

Kelly - Not at all playing like himself. Has asked two.. strange? questions each day. Almost like he HAS to ask questions. Reeks of a tell.

Zell - He's the only one I noticed who mentioned animals twice in both Day 1 & Day 2 but I need to go look at Day 2 again.

Alu - This obsession with numbers is weird.

 

[TD]

I didn't feel like he was hinting at that. It's just good sense to check the single post of a shushed person for tells.

Could be. What I learned about Alu from playing with him - he's very good at blending and being logical even as a bad guy. Like very good.

 

[TD]

The other weird thing about Alu - he said he had 1 suspect from the animal read...

But NEVER said who it was.

 

[Dean]

Jawneh is very quiet this game. It doesn't appear that he says anything until his name is mentioned or he gets called out. He keeps talking about getting blown up, too.

 

[TD]

Jawneh is very quiet this game. It doesn't appear that he says anything until his name is mentioned or he gets called out. He keeps talking about getting blown up, too.

My gut tells me he's trying to get blown up - guessing the Patsy.

 

[Dean]

I gotta go look at Day 2 but some takes of note:

Kelly - Not at all playing like himself. Has asked two.. strange? questions each day. Almost like he HAS to ask questions. Reeks of a tell.

Zell - He's the only one I noticed who mentioned animals twice in both Day 1 & Day 2 but I need to go look at Day 2 again.

Alu - This obsession with numbers is weird.

My gut tells me he's trying to get blown up - guessing the Patsy.

Could be the Patsy, but that seems really obvious. Could be a tell.

I think eliminating the Mad Bomber at this point is crucial. That role's a bigger threat than the Mafia.

It's going to be hard to figure it out, though. I thought maybe Tubby, given his rapid posting early on and the fact that Benzine was the victim.

Using some of the ideas presented in here, maybe....

Kelly, Alu, and Zell could be Mafia.

Local Hero could be the Snitch.

canadaguy may be the Librarian.

 

[Dean]

@Kat @TD

What do you think of this so far:

Mafia suspects: Zell, Kelly, Al(ways evil)u, and as a runner up, maybe Jawneh

Mad Bomber suspect: Tubby

 

[TD]

@Kat @TD

What do you think of this so far:

Mafia suspects: Zell, Kelly, Al(ways evil)u, and as a runner up, maybe Jawneh

Mad Bomber suspect: Tubby

Close to what I have.

Mafia (in order of confidence):
Fools
Zell***
Kelly
Alu

Yes on Tubby.

*** meaning:
Zell is the ONLY one who posted an animal twice in day two. This means one of two things:
1) Zell is Jimmy Zoos
2) The real Jimmy Zoos did not do their tell and will get revealed by Vash

 

[TD]

The other thing that makes me so suspicious of Alu is the way he so eagerly jumped on Local for his tells and then later says he doesn't to expose mafia members cause of the bomber.

Strange contradiction.

 

[Dean]

What do you make of Joey Snaps being quiet? Did he say he would be busy, or is he trying to fly under the radar?

And what about Local Hero's alcoholic stint in the early part of day 1?

 

[TD]

What do you make of Joey Snaps being quiet? Did he say he would be busy, or is he trying to fly under the radar?

And what about Local Hero's alcoholic stint in the early part of day 1?

Snaps is always inactive-ish. Guessing busy.

Local is being too obvious. He's made mistakes in the past but I refuse to believe he'd be that obvious with a tell. He's trying to be targeted. I'm sure of it. Don't be surprised if he shares a tell tomorrow.

...and then there's Jon who also has a two-day tell...

 

[TD]

So for two days straight, Jon has had exactly two posts each day with something in all caps.

On the flipside he's also suggested many times he was targeted by the Con Man.

 

[TD]

@Dean
Whatever you do, do not openly share the whole suspect list if the bomber is alive.

 

[Benzine]

When I get the solo be targeted role, I have a flawless method for being voted for.

 

[TD]

When I get the solo be targeted role, I have a flawless method for being voted for.

Is it claim Bell Ringer?

 

[Dean]

@Dean
Whatever you do, do not openly share the whole suspect list if the bomber is alive.

I don't know how to share info without claiming Clairvoyant.

 

[TD]

I don't know how to share info without claiming Clairvoyant.

Who are you looking to go after - Tubby?

 

[Dean]

Who are you looking to go after - Tubby?

I guess I just meant in general

 

[TD]

I guess I just meant in general

We lie about how you know.

Example:
Do something similar to what Tommy did. If you want to expose FR, say you uncovered a clue about movie quotes.

 

[TD]

You don't have to be specific and tell the truth about  how you know.

If they think we are on the right track in here, if they think you're the clairvoyant, they'll kill you.

Anyone who read Vash's story closely will see I know something. The mafia likely picked up on it. They won't want what I know out.

I'd go so far to say you might die tonight.

 

[TD]

All in all - I feel really good about the list.

 

[Dean]

If I were the Mad Bomber, I would kill Joseph Snapple to frame Tubby.

 

[TD]

The biggest "?" right now is the bomber. Tubby may not be that ballsy. But we're also talking about the guy who was a seer and lied that he found a bad guy but got lucky and did.

 

[TD]

If I were the Mad Bomber, I would kill Joseph Snapple to frame Tubby.

A smart mad bomber will kill Snapple regardless.

 

[Christina]

The biggest "?" right now is the bomber. Tubby may not be that ballsy. But we're also talking about the guy who was a seer and lied that he found a bad guy but got lucky and did.

 

[Dean]

The biggest "?" right now is the bomber. Tubby may not be that ballsy. But we're also talking about the guy who was a seer and lied that he found a bad guy but got lucky and did.

See, this is my biggest problem. I have no issue lying when I'm the bad guy. But when I'm a citizen/villager, I just struggle with it. I hate lying and losing credibility or looking guilty.

 

[Dean]

A smart mad bomber will kill Snapple regardless.

Because literally everybody posted more than him and it makes it easier to hide?

 

[TD]

See, this is my biggest problem. I have no issue lying when I'm the bad guy. But when I'm a citizen/villager, I just struggle with it. I hate lying and losing credibility or looking guilty.

You also don't have to come out guns blazing and reveal what you know right away. That's what makes people look guilty.

Wait it out and see how the day goes. Maybe what you want to say gets revealed another way or maybe the suspected clues get further validation.