VTS Mafia The Morgue (Year 2)

[TD]

Well yeah but most people don't have my insane brain that considers like every possible scenario.

I think it's a fine line that's a bit of a loophole and I can see it being controversial post-game.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Well yeah but most cat people don't have my insane dog brain that considers like every possible alligator scenario.

I think it's a fine capybara line that's a bit of a GODDAMN SNAKE WTF loophole and I can see it being controversial post-game.

Yeah, I fully expect some push-back on that one

 

[Christina]

Well yeah but most people don't have my insane brain that considers like every possible scenario.

I think it's a fine line that's a bit of a loophole and I can see it being controversial post-game.

This is why everybody kills you so quickly. You see through people's loopholes.

 

[Christina]

Yeah, I fully expect some push-back on that one

Oh! Brilliant what you did. I didn't think about that!

 

[TD]

Yeah, I fully expect some push-back on that one

As long as you're prepared for it.

This is why everybody kills you so quickly. You see through people's loopholes.

The hilarious thing is though that most people think I just come across as crazy.



I may be a little.

 

[Christina]

As long as you're prepared for it.

The hilarious thing is though that most people think I just come across as crazy.



I may be a little.

Did you notice that Vash edited that quote?

 

[TD]

Did you notice that Vash edited that quote?

Of course.

 

[TD]

I'm very curious if any alive citizen is going to notice this.

 

[VashTheStampede]

There has already been one VERY OBSCURE animal posted AND quoted in today's game.

 

[TD]

Should've worked at a zoo instead of Blockbuster.

 

[VashTheStampede]

My initial reaction to a Movie Quote Tell was "literally anything could be a movie quote" so I was against it. Technically "i'm innocent" is a movie quote, for example.

After seeing some of these animal names though...

 

[TD]

Does it have to be the name of the animal or... attributes of the animal?

 

[VashTheStampede]

Does it have to be the name of the animal or... attributes of the animal?

straight up name that could appear in Google as an animal

maybe with a little scrolling

 

[Joseph Snapple]

lol

 

[TD]

I glanced, didn't hyper analyze, guessing it's an animal I haven't heard of or I passed it over.

Birds have lots of fun names for example.

 

[VashTheStampede]

They're planning on maybe using one animal name that I was tempted to veto but its TECHNICALLY correct, and we all know what technically correct is...

 

[VashTheStampede]

lol

sorry you got blowed up

 

[Dean]

They're planning on maybe using one animal name that I was tempted to veto but its TECHNICALLY correct, and we all know what technically correct is...

 

[TD]

canadaguy is interesting...

 

[TD]

Also good thing there's a worm named bomber.

 

[TD]

omg is my Tubby is the bomber theory correct!?

 

[TD]

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[Kat]

I personally love the quote loophole. The town already wins too much, so I'm fine with tells not actually being all that helpful and instead seeding doubt and suspicion everywhere.

 

[Kat]

I don't think Zell has an animal tell. If he had to post twice for his tell, then his idea about getting everyone shushed would get him killed. I think somebody else was just more subtle.

Do we get to know Benzine's tell now? Or at least confirmation if our guesses are on the right track?

 

[TD]

I'd say this game is swayed to the bad guys...

But, I'd also say a lot of that has to do with the way the towns always play these games. Way too passive and unwilling to act on anything but a seer coming forward and saying "____ is a bad guy".

The town has no idea what to do here.

I'm just gonna false claim seer every game.

 

[TD]

I don't think Zell has an animal tell. If he had to post twice for his tell, then his idea about getting everyone shushed would get him killed. I think somebody else was just more subtle.

canadaguy has mentioned animals twice both days.

But this would also mean he's not the librarian and the librarian didn't shush him but did me and Tubby which feels.. unlikely.

I'd go back and re-analyze but I'm not as committed anymore.

 

[TD]

Local Hero is current MVP for the town if they pull it off.

 

[Christina]

I don't think Zell has an animal tell. If he had to post twice for his tell, then his idea about getting everyone shushed would get him killed. I think somebody else was just more subtle.

Do we get to know Benzine's tell now? Or at least confirmation if our guesses are on the right track?

Zoos has to post an animal twice a day. Does not say it has to be 2 separate posts I believe.

 

[TD]

Yeah, this is what I got:

Jimmy Zoos has to post the name of an animal twice per day.

 

[Dean]

omg is my Tubby is the bomber theory correct!?

I had him pegged first and Vash teased me

 

[Kat]

If tubby is the mad bomber then he messed up by blowing up Joseph Snapple so quickly today IMO. It makes sense not to stack too many kills, you don't want the Mafia or town to kill the same people you already have targeted, but Joseph Snapple was in no danger of being killed today. At least wait until the end of the day and they've already voted somebody else for trial.

 

[VashTheStampede]

I'd say this game is swayed to the bad guys...

This is by design.

The whole reason I decided to make this game stemmed from a discussion I had with Cole after one of the first wolf games that ran after this site went up. He felt the game should be balanced 50/50. My opinion is that asymmetrical games should have asymmetrical balance tilted towards the group with fewer numbers.

I wanted a game where the bad guys have the upper hand, but is still clearly winnable for the good guys.

 

[Kat]

Zoos has to post an animal twice a day. Does not say it has to be 2 separate posts I believe.

Oh, I see. Local Hero posted the clue as "That clue was: one tell is you have to make two posts that include an animal name." Did he reword it poorly? It looks copied and pasted to me.

 

[TD]

@VashTheStampede
Do they have to say the full animal name and not just part of it?

 

[VashTheStampede]

I had him pegged first and Vash teased me

100% this

I just saw humor in your (accurate) reasoning because we were like a dozen posts into the game

 

[VashTheStampede]

Oh, I see. Local Hero posted the clue as "That clue was: one tell is you have to make two posts that include an animal name." Did he reword it poorly? It looks copied and pasted to me.

He backtracked shortly thereafter when he name dropped Jimmy Zoos

 

[VashTheStampede]

@VashTheStampede
Do they have to say the full animal name and not just part of it?

I think I might need an example to rule on in this case but it would have to be something that follows my aforementioned Google rule.

 

[Kat]

He backtracked shortly thereafter when he name dropped Jimmy Zoos

Ahh, gotcha. I'm sure lots of people have mentioned two animals if quotes and obscure animal names both count.

 

[Kat]

Is everyone receiving the same clue intentional or bad luck? Will they keep getting that clue until they kill the person with that tell?

 

[VashTheStampede]

City needs to realize the numbers game and that defeating the Mad Bomber at this point might give the game to the mob

 

[VashTheStampede]

Is everyone receiving the same clue intentional or bad luck? Will they keep getting that clue until they kill the person with that tell?

Horrible no good rotten luck

 

[TD]

This is by design.

The whole reason I decided to make this game stemmed from a discussion I had with Cole after one of the first wolf games that ran after this site went up. He felt the game should be balanced 50/50. My opinion is that asymmetrical games should have asymmetrical balance tilted towards the group with fewer numbers.

I wanted a game where the bad guys have the upper hand, but is still clearly winnable for the good guys.

I wouldn't say "clearly winnable" for the good guys at this point but I agree with your asymmetrical stance.

Not having a guaranteed way of finding a bad guy will obliterate the strategy the town always uses.

Hell they had one on trial yesterday who reeked of bad guy and the only one who voted guilty was the bomber.



I'm fully expecting the town to get slaughtered.

 

[TD]

I think I might need an example to rule on in this case but it would have to be something that follows my aforementioned Google rule.

Would I have to say "Blue Tit" or is "Tit" good enough?

Yes this is the example I'm choosing.

 

[VashTheStampede]

I wouldn't say "clearly winnable" for the good guys at this point but I agree with your asymmetrical stance.

Just because they throw away the win doesn't mean it wasn't winnable.

At one point yesterday I didn't see a way for the mob to win.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Would I have to say "Blue Tit" or is "Tit" good enough?

Yes this is the example I'm choosing.

When I Google "Tit", the definition points straight to titmouse so I'd allow it.

Google apparently does not understand my interests.

 

[TD]

Just because they throw away the win doesn't mean it wasn't winnable.

At one point yesterday I didn't see a way for the mob to win.

Winnable yes, but it's the "clearly winnable" distinction.

The game is "winnable" until you're all gone in my opinion.

 

[TD]

When I Google "Tit", the definition points straight to titmouse so I'd allow it.

Google apparently does not understand my interests.

...ooph.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Well by "clearly winnable" I meant that it's not a very daunting task. Not too tilted to the Mob

 

[TD]

Well by "clearly winnable" I meant that it's not a very daunting task. Not too tilted to the Mob

Based on game structure I had it as roughly 75% chance mob wins, 20% chance town wins, 5% chance bomber wins.

#TeamTubby

 

[Kat]

City needs to realize the numbers game and that defeating the Mad Bomber at this point might give the game to the mob

This is a tough call. If the mad bomber goes after mobsters, then yeah, it's good to keep him around. And the Don can't be killed by the bomber, right? So as long as they're still out there, the city is safe from a mad bomber win. Still, solo killers have a history of being pretty unpredictable, so he could just as easily whittle down citizens instead.