Zell Wolf The dead-land 13: A never-ending corridor of bland

[TD]

 

[TD]

Realistically - the signs I was making it up were pretty obvious.

"One of Kat and Raine are a wolf, but I'm going to refuse to vote for them."

But I still get to talk to Kat now, yay.

She was pro-snowman AND pro-scarlett.

 

[TD]

...I just reread the end of the phase...

At least three people voted me but said they don't think I'm a wolf.

 

[Christina]

...I just reread the end of the phase...

At least three people voted me but said they don't think I'm a wolf.

That sus.

 

[TD]

That sus.

My magical powers of sus.

In a weird way. I wouldn't have it any other way.

 

[TD]

@Fool's Requiem
If you're resurrected, who are you shooting?
You may only get one shot and it could be good or backfire.

Also, if you're resurrected can you share my snowman?

 

[Christina]

@Fool's Requiem
If you're resurrected, who are you shooting?
You may only get one shot and it could be good or backfire.

Also, if you're resurrected can you share my snowman?

 

[Fool's Requiem]

@Fool's Requiem
If you're resurrected, who are you shooting?
You may only get one shot and it could be good or backfire.

Also, if you're resurrected can you share my snowman?

I reaaaaaaally wanted to jump into next day and ask Local Hero what his last words were. But I'm not so sure anymore.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Vash posted over and over again that he was "busy". Do you think that was a hint or just him fucking around?

 

[TD]

I reaaaaaaally wanted to jump into next day and ask Local Hero what his last words were. But I'm not so sure anymore.

I mean the dude literally voted me and openly conceded that he doesn't think I'm a wolf. It makes no sense. I think there's a strong chance he's Cupid.

Vash posted over and over again that he was "busy". Do you think that was a hint or just him fucking around?

I was thinking he was a wolf early on, I could be wrong. I get the feeling that once he realized Cupid was possible, he disengaged a bit. Some people really hate Cupid.

 

[Kat]

If TD convinces the town to lynch Kat before she can revive me, I'm gonna be pissed...

Pfft, there was never any danger of that.

fine...

IF Kat revives me.

I already sent Zell a PM yesterday to revive you, don't worry.

...I just reread the end of the phase...

At least three people voted me but said they don't think I'm a wolf.

Right? Feels like wolves pushing it over the line.

Realistically - the signs I was making it up were pretty obvious

Yeah, it was, lol. I was honestly surprised to see you lynched this morning. Especially since neither Raine nor I voted for you. Smells like wolves pushing it over the line.

What do you all think about Raine's read? Legit or cover because TD had a lucky guess?

What about Vash's "I'm busy" fuckery? Extra interesting since Raine kinda cleared him.

I'm so happy I'm a medium this game.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

...I just reread the end of the phase...

At least three people voted me but said they don't think I'm a wolf.

Can you remind me of those three players?

 

[Kat]

Can you remind me of those three players?

Local and Jump are two, not sure the third off hand.

 

[Benzine]

Hey @Kat I was the fool. Good luck.

 

[Kat]

@Benzine what was your role?

 

[TD]

Pfft, there was never any danger of that.

Yeah you were in no danger of being lynched.

Right? Feels like wolves pushing it over the line.

Either pushing it over the line or being early voters. I'm also fairly convinced the cupid trio voted me, especially with no worry of Fool or Headhunter.

Yeah, it was, lol. I was honestly surprised to see you lynched this morning. Especially since neither Raine nor I voted for you. Smells like wolves pushing it over the line.

Yeah I actually didn't expect to get lynched, oh well, there's a method to my madness and I got a pretty good feel of the group.

What do you all think about Raine's read? Legit or cover because TD had a lucky guess?

I think there's a strong possibility she's a wolf. I don't know for sure but the way she came out to discredit what I was saying.. but not come for me?

What about Vash's "I'm busy" fuckery? Extra interesting since Raine kinda cleared him.

Vash could be the blind wolf is my take. However, he's genuinely busy but I also think he just doesn't wanna deal with the cupid shit.

Can you remind me of those three players?

Tommy, Local, Jump

 

[Kat]

Hmm!

 

[Benzine]

@Benzine what was your role?

The fool, I wasn’t lying. I would rather the town win so am just letting you know.

 

[TD]

Like I've said - I often seem like a raving lunatic but there's a reason I do the things I do.

 

[TD]

Yeah I wouldn't believe Benzine, he has zero reason to tell us the truth.

 

[Kat]

The fool, I wasn’t lying. I would rather the town win so am just letting you know.

I posted the same time you did, I wasn't doubting you.

 

[Christina]

Omg if the kill Benzine day 1 thing had actually took hold and he is the Fool. Freaking chef's kiss.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Right, so Alu and Lee voted "no vote", and Jawneh and Jon both voted for Benzine. Lee is probably playing it safe. Alu probably doesn't want to be implicated in the bandwagon of TD. Jawneh's Benzine vote doesn't count. Jon is... well, I don't know Jon is doing. Probably the same thing as Jawneh.

If Bedzine's claim of Fool is true, we have no Cupid. Which is great.

3 players voted TD despite claiming they don't feel he's a wolf. However, if they were wolves I don't know if they'd hop on a bandwagon like that with the possibility of the Fool or Headhunter.

How much do we trust Raine, SS claim? If we do, there's still a chance that Vash is RK.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Yeah I wouldn't believe Benzine, he has zero reason to tell us the truth.

He'd not a wolf, though. Why lie? Kat's not going to revive him if he claims Fool.

 

[TD]

Because you guys are trying to figure it out, I'm going to try to help. My only request FR posts my snowman.

Grain of salt, no intel, just reads and behaviour. Take from it what you will.

A Pen Pineapple Apple Pen
3/10 - Besides what people say, he's got a noticeable tell as a wolf. That tell hasn't made an appearance.

Ben
9/10 - Screams wolf, like literally screams it. Just out here trying to lynch anybody.

GwJumpman
6/10 - First said I wasn't a wolf, then voted me anyhow. Could be a innocent mistake. Would be hilarious if he was Corruptor a third time.

Jawneh
4/10 - Could be a wolf, but he's interesting to watch.

Jon
7/10 - His behaviour screams wolf.

Lee
8/10 - The shadow wolf conversation raised lots of red flags and the lack of questions as a new player. Wolves probably coaching him.

Local Hero
5/10 - Cupid vibes, Cupid role itself is not a threat. Lovers may be two townies or not.

Raine
6/10 - The way she rushed to come at me and debunk my obvious lie was... odd. She's one to keep a close eye on.

shortkut
4/10 - Could be a wolf, but he's also being shortkut.

Smacktard
6/10 - Yeah he's all over the place this game. 90% chance I'm a wolf? Going after Jawneh? Could be a lover.

Tommy Boy
6/10 - Voted for me despite saying I'm not bad, just excited, questionable logic at best. Extremely obvious alliance with Kelly while fishing for Local's role. Corruptor candidate.

VashTheStampede
7/10 - Just can't shake the wolf vibe, we're never on the same team. I'm convinced they have a Blind Wolf or Wolf Seer due to the gunner kill, Raine oddly specifically mentioned blind wolf when posting her seer read.

 

[TD]

He'd not a wolf, though. Why lie? Kat's not going to revive him if he claims Fool.

How do you know he's not a wolf?

 

[Benzine]

Yeah the only way that makes sense for lying is I’m a wolf.

If that’s true though, that doesn’t really change anything though - it’s a nice treat later on when three wolves die.

I have elected for truth because if I’m rezzed I’m not gonna get lynched imo. So I’d rather the town be able to act with some confidence and save the points.

I won’t see this thread again unless tagged so gl team.

 

[TD]

I won’t see this thread again unless tagged so gl team.

I appreciate you acknowledge it's possible.

Enjoy your weekend beers Benzine.

 

[Benzine]

Oh I did forget to say, although just what I was thinking when I was given the fool role.

I am always on the same team as Alu, it’s outrageous. If there was a way to bet on who a role is, I bet Alu is the corruptor.

So if you believe the world is a simulation you should kill Alu.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

How do you know he's not a wolf?

Confusion wolf killing one of their own?

 

[TD]

Confusion wolf killing one of their own?

Man.

He was killed by the Corruptor.

The solo killer.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

mannnnnnnn

 

[Benzine]

Omg if the kill Benzine day 1 thing had actually took hold and he is the Fool. Freaking chef's kiss.

Sorry, should’ve replied to this one too.

Yeah but I’d have had to give it a push. I never got to decide what to do cause I was instantly dead haha.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

A Pen Pineapple Apple Pen
3/10 - Besides what people say, he's got a noticeable tell as a wolf. That tell hasn't made an appearance.

Interesting. What be this tell?

 

[Benzine]

Interesting. What be this tell?

That I’m not a wolf

 

[TD]

Interesting. What be this tell?

In the event Alu and I are wolves again, I'm not going to share right now. However, if it pops up I'll be sure to tell Kat.

 

[TD]

Pictured: Me on the left tried to spew lies to Raine (on the right) and she's basically just like "nope you're not doing it."

 

[Fool's Requiem]

@Kat who are your susses?

 

[Benzine]

Kat you should take what I said to the group and see how they react. People like Kelly will believe me, I reckon. And if he’s good he’ll be upfront about it. If he isn’t, then kill him.

 

[TD]

Kat you should take what I said to the group and see how they react. People like Kelly will believe me, I reckon. And if he’s good he’ll be upfront about it. If he isn’t, then kill him.

Why would Kat out herself to talk about your unprovable claim? Sounds like you just want the medium dead.

 

[TD]

@Fool's Requiem
When you're alive though, it'd be a good idea for you to say Benzine claims to be the Fool and just gauge all reactions.

Not just Kelly, because if he's a lover with a townie, the wolves would love to get a 3:1 kill.

 

[Kat]

Yeah, I agree, FR should pass on any relevant info from tonight. I'm not too worried about being killed for being a medium after I use the revive, but if I'm confirmed good then I'm more likely to get offed.

I think a wolf claiming fool doesn't make much sense. It'll make the town more willing to lynch, which usually works against them. The only benefit would be if one of the wolves is coupled and they want cover for that. Hopefully that's not the case again.

 

[Benzine]

Why would Kat out herself to talk about your unprovable claim? Sounds like you just want the medium dead.

Yeah good point. Later on though.

 

[TD]

I think a wolf claiming fool doesn't make much sense. It'll make the town more willing to lynch, which usually works against them. The only benefit would be if one of the wolves is coupled and they want cover for that. Hopefully that's not the case again.

Claiming Fool as a wolf makes a ton of sense. Hell, I even claimed Fool when I was alive as the Illusionist.

Like you said, it'll make the town more willing to lynch. Nobody is taking the lead, if Benzine is a wolf they gotta play catch up. Coming out and saying Benzine is the Fool could be a play to get the cupid trio to reveal themselves for the 3:1 kill, either at the hands of the town or at the hands of the wolves.

I'd say there's a much greater probability Benzine is full of shit, especially with the way I was lynched and it screaming trio involvement.

 

[Benzine]

I have no issue (in fact it’s good) with td doubting me, but I don’t follow why it makes sense that I’d lie about my role. Could you share your thoughts more so I can get the perspective?

Obvs im not town, I’d have just said.

 

[TD]

Posts like below are some of the most nonsensical shit I've ever seen and the only way the strategy makes sense is if you're a trio trying to dwindle numbers, period. Tommy explicitly said early on that everyone should doubt me - him and Kelly led the way against me and THIS is the logic?

Post in thread 'GWF Zell Wolf Volume XIII Day 1' https://gwforums.com/threads/gwf-zell-wolf-volume-xiii-day-1.1820/post-106301

They could be townie lovers, which isn't a priority. It's also possible one is a sk/wolf. Which killing them now only helps the wolves.

 

[TD]

I have no issue (in fact it’s good) with td doubting me, but I don’t follow why it makes sense that I’d lie about my role. Could you share your thoughts more so I can get the perspective?

Obvs im not town, I’d have just said.

For someone who said you're not going to be here - you sure are chiming in a lot.

Helping your fellow wolves from beyond the grave?

 

[TD]

Benzine is not the fool.

He's here to try to misdirect and throw you guys off. Don't fall for it.

If he was the Fool, he wouldn't be here posting and trying to help.

Even in games where he's in the dead thread as a townie, he doesn't try to help, he carries on. He's still playing for something, like a wolf win.

 

[Benzine]

I’ve been sitting in the same spot doing fuck all since I said that. Once I get up to do something it’ll become more true.

 

[Kat]

Maybe we should say Benzine admitted to being a wolf and see what happens.