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I noticed the VF character on the cover and just had to look into it. I saw it in the store and was like "What the fuck is this?!"
Yeah, caught me off-guard too when it came out, never expected a megamix fighting game from Sega, but glad they did it!
Also saw a CIB copy of Wipeout. Had no idea Wipeout came out on the Saturn.
Yep, that's how I first experienced Wipeout, the PS version is WAY better, but it's still fun on the Saturn.
 

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Great find! I never really looked into this game because fighters are not my jam usually, but this one looks interesting given the crazy cast. Hope to pick it up some day. I think I've only ever seen NSTC Sega Saturn games in the wild like... Three or four times my entire life though.
Yeah, Saturn is an extremely expensive console to collect for, Saturn versions are always the more experienced.
*screams in MM8 being 10x the price of PS1 version*
 
I think I've only ever seen NSTC Sega Saturn games in the wild like... Three or four times my entire life though.
Two stores that are in the St Louis area that I go to have as many if not more Saturn games as Dreamcast games for some reason. It's super weird. Gamecube and Wii U games are on the rare side, too. One store has a handful of 32x games. The other has MULTIPLE graded copies of video games.
 

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I'm lucky to have a couple of great stores near me that always have decent stock of Saturn games, but it's super rare to find them out in the wild on the hunt. Just retro stores. Expect to pay mucho dinero there
 

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Yep, I hear you there, online is about it for the hardest to find games anyway. It's a shame, because it removes the thrill of the hunt
I wish I lived in a country where yard sales were a thing. I like scoping them out and occasionally finding deals. But even when I was in Japan, I went to the largest flea market in Tokyo, and I didn't see a SINGLE games booth. Pretty incredible really.

The hunt is the most fun part! Getting a good deal on eBay just isn't the same.
 

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I wish I lived in a country where yard sales were a thing. I like scoping them out and occasionally finding deals. But even when I was in Japan, I went to the largest flea market in Tokyo, and I didn't see a SINGLE games booth. Pretty incredible really.

The hunt is the most fun part! Getting a good deal on eBay just isn't the same.
Yeah, that's one advantage to here, plenty of yard sales still, though the pickings aren't anything like what they used to be. Everyone thinks they've got gold when they've got old games now, it's quite sad
 

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I blame the abundance of people who buy as many shitty sports games and shovelware as they can just to pad out their collection :/
This was me when I first started collecting. I was so desperate to pad the numbers I didn't care about quality, lol. Thankfully that's all been trimmed away and it's down to just decent (or obscure) stuff now.
 

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This was me when I first started collecting. I was so desperate to pad the numbers I didn't care about quality, lol. Thankfully that's all been trimmed away and it's down to just decent (or obscure) stuff now.
I only keep games I actually enjoy playing -- games that are good enough to complete, at least. There's a few small exceptions, like I have multiple versions of Okami because it's one of my favorite games. I also kept Spinch because it's artistically interesting, and the first 3 or so worlds are pretty good, but damn does that game fall completely apart.

...Although I do also have the Virtual Boy collection, so I do have a small collection of shit games :D
 

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I only keep games I actually enjoy playing -- games that are good enough to complete, at least. There's a few small exceptions, like I have multiple versions of Okami because it's one of my favorite games. I also kept Spinch because it's artistically interesting, and the first 3 or so worlds are pretty good, but damn does that game fall completely apart.
Yeah, that's kind of where I am now, at least in terms of acquiring. I can't afford much, so what I do pick up I want to be something that I will actually play and hopefully enjoy. I still have a lot of trash in my collection, like my Saturn collection, because I was going for a complete collection back when it was doable, but I never finished and so I have a lot of garbage mixed in with the great stuff, lol. It's funny how a collection can evolve over time!
...Although I do also have the Virtual Boy collection, so I do have a small collection of shit games :D
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This was me when I first started collecting. I was so desperate to pad the numbers I didn't care about quality, lol. Thankfully that's all been trimmed away and it's down to just decent (or obscure) stuff now.
I made the mistake of just buying random games back in the day without being able to look at the quality of the game. A lot of times, if "Suggestive Themes" was included in the rating, I was more likely to buy it. lol. I have two of PS2's more expensive games now because of that habit (Haunting Grounds and Shadow Hearts: From the New World).
Although I do also have the Virtual Boy collection, so I do have a small collection of shit games
I refuse to touch the Virtual Boy. I would buy a 3DO and 32x before I buy a VB and games in the library. I hope you at least have the Wario game, it's supposedly one of the few good games for thar hunk of junk. Hell, I have an Atari Jaguar and I refuse to buy a Virtual Boy.
 

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I made the mistake of just buying random games back in the day without being able to look at the quality of the game. A lot of times, if "Suggestive Themes" was included in the rating, I was more likely to buy it. lol. I have two of PS2's more expensive games now because of that habit (Haunting Grounds and Shadow Hearts: From the New World).
Nice impulse buys! :D
 

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I hope you at least have the Wario game, it's supposedly one of the few good games for thar hunk of junk
It and Jack Bros are legitimately both pretty good. The 3D effect in some of the games is nice, and Wario does it the best. The game looks like a pop-up book. It's a cool effect. The best game though IMO was never officially released. Bound High. Really good game.
 
New stores, new finds.

For the first time ever, I found a store that ACTUALLY had Atari Jaguar games. I found the ONE game I had been looking for: Alien vs Predator. Game and manual. They also had had Rayman, but I was not about to spend 150 dollars for a copy of a game that I already had on PS1 AND Gameboy Color and could get for the Saturn at a cheaper price. But AvP is a Jaguar exclusive and it was NEVER officially released anywhere else.

Other pick ups, I finally snagged a copy of Super Princess Peach for the DS. It was game only, but the it was under market price and the CIB copy I found somewhere else was WAAAAAAY overpriced. I can just get a custom box and find a manual on eBay if I really want to make it "complete". Also found Paperboy for the Genesis, which is supposed to be the best port of the game and is nearly arcade perfect. Got Ico/Shadow of the Collossus and the Infamous PS3 collections for cheap. As well as the SNK collections mentioned in the NeoGeo thread.

I wanted to snag NFS High Stakes complete for the PS1, but for some reason I put it back on the shelf. I already have the game on its own, but not a complete copy. TBH,I have other games I'd much rather find complete. Mostly Dreamcast games.

Got The Getaway and the 7th Xbox Demo disc, and also the Mario Bros/Duck Hunt/World Track and Field cart. If the game works, I'll just trade in the Mario/Duck Hunt cart at a "MASSIVE" profit (I got it back when Funcoland was selling it for !a quarter because of how common it was).

Finally, one of the stores had a copy the Tomb Raider 20th Anniversary art book for Rise of the Tomb Raider on PS4. It didn't come with the disc, so I'll have to get the game for a console I still don't have, but I do intend to get it at some point, if only for Gravity Rush.
 

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Woah! What a find! I miss scouring through retro game stores like this. Good news is though that I found a retro game store that opened up back home recently, so next time I'm home I'm going to go and try to snag a few deals.

I've been buying a few things from jauce.com. Got some good deals on Japanese Saturn games for way less than eBay prices.
 
Yeah, AvP is literally the only Jaguar game I care about finding, but because it's a Jaguar game, I never cared to search on eBay. AvP is THE Jag game. They also had a Jag+Jag CD combo for $1500. A Jag is expensive... a Jag with the CD add-on is insane. The CD drives were supposedly extremely prone to defects, so they became even more rare. The store even had Jag CD games for it.

They also had a like 3 copies of Kasumi Ninja, one of the worst fighting games ever created.



It's actually pretty cheap to buy, but I already have another Uber bad MK knockoff for the system called Ultra Vortek and THAT is not a cheap game.



Side note: I got my Jag, a controller, 10 games, and the multi-tap adapter that allows you to plug in more than two controllers all the way back in 2003 for like 60 bucks. I bought it off some poor dude on eBay who had to be suuuuuper annoyed with how long it took me to send payment because I was am 18 year old kid who had no idea what he was doing. Assuming I can get the damn system to work again, that collection is definitely worth well over 1000 bucks now. All of the games are CIB (except for AvP). Nothing is missing from the games and the carts are all in near perfect condition because they were protected by those boxes which almost always stayed in the console box with the console and stuff.
 

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Cool and very unique collection! You should post a pic of the full collection sometime. I know of AvP as the best reason to own a Jaguar. You'll have to give us your review of it when you finally play it. Also I had no idea the Jaguar had a CD mount. It looks rare as fuck -- I see only 2 working models on eBay, and the cheapest one is 1.5k.

And what a fantastic pick-up you got back in the day. Unfortunately, I really feel like we missed hey-deys of collecting. I started saving my games from around 2000 onward, but I really only started getting into ACTIVE collecting the same time everyone else did -- Covid. Prices have gone nuts since then. Wish I'd started a few years earlier instead of wasting my money on dumb(er) stuff :dunce
 
You should post a pic of the full collection sometime
Behold:

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I did have the multi-tap device that allows you to use more than two controllers, but it would appear that I have recently traded it in. It was as inexpensive a piece of the collection as it was useless (you can find them for 10 bucks on eBay CIB).

All of those games besides AvP are complete. Including the little num pad insert for Doom (weapon selecting made easy).

The system currently doesn't work despite me keeping in the box almost the whole I'm I've owned it. I'm worried I fried something on the inside trying to figure out which power adapter goes with it before I bought an official adapter. But nothing inside looks bad and I can get power all the way to the sound chip, so I don't know what it is. This system is not cheap to buy like it was when I bought everything you see (except for AvP and the power supply) for under 100 bucks in 03, so I'm slightly worried about the concept of taking it to a store to have someone look at it, especially since there's very little documentation on the internet.

Edit: Oh, the AV cables are also a recent purchase. If I can get my Jag to work, I'm definitely using that instead of the RF adapter (which did come with the console).
 
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Also, I got this off of eBay:

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This is a complete complete copy of the 1994 release of Space Invaders on the Gameboy. This version is special because it is basically the full console release on a tiny GB cartridge. It's a regular GB port on the GB, but stick this into a Super Gameboy and it you have access to the updated 1994 Arcade release of the game as well as a Super Gameboy version of the GB port with different colors. It's like having 3 games in one tiny cartridge from the mid-90s. I was looking at a video that shows all of the Space Invaders versions and when I saw the 94 GB version, I thought it was super cool and felt that I needed to have it.

I got it for 33 bucks eBay. This entire thing is as like new as it gets. It's like if someone bought it, opened it one time and put it away somewhere safe for 30 years.
 
Update on Jag: Repair store says they narrowed it down to a voltage regulator and some caps. Should get fixed in a couple of weeks. 200 dollar fix. Considering that working Jags are selling for twice that (or more), I'm completely fine with the cost. I'm also seriously considering collecting for the system beyond the 11 games I already own. Don't know how many games I'll add, but Cannon Fodder is definitely something I'm going to look out for.

Retro Game Cases has a custom AvP case, so I'm getting that. Hopefully the manual will fit.
 
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Update on Jag: Repair store says they narrowed it down to a voltage regulator and some caps. Should get fixed in a couple of weeks. 200 dollar fix. Considering that working Jags are selling for twice that (or more), I'm completely fine with the cost. I'm also seriously considering collecting for the system beyond the 11 games I already own. Don't know how many games I'll add, but Cannon Fodder is definitely something I'm going to look out for.

Retro Game Cases has a custom AvP case, so I'm getting that. Hopefully the manual will fit.
Nice, good to hear it's salvageable. Consider getting Pitfall for it, too. I hear it's best on the Jag.
 

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I'm in Niue right now, and was kinda shocked to see this in a shop. Picked it up (used) for the equivalent of $27 USD -- usually sells for just over $100 USD. It's CIB, but it's the Aussie version... Which doesn't even have a listing on Gameye, so that version must be pretty rare. DS games are not region locked, and I heard good things so I picked it up.
 

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I'm in Niue right now, and was kinda shocked to see this in a shop. Picked it up (used) for the equivalent of $27 USD -- usually sells for just over $100 USD. It's CIB, but it's the Aussie version... Which doesn't even have a listing on Gameye, so that version must be pretty rare. DS games are not region locked, and I heard good things so I picked it up.
Damn, that's a pretty good pickup right there! Very nice!!

I'm in Niue right now,
Holy hell, lol, you really do get around!
 
So... I finally get my Jaguar back. It works. It doesn't play well with my Retrotink for some reason, but that's not really a problem as it works on my receiver.

The problem is the controller. Down and C don't work... at all.

Edit: Took it apart. Now the dpad works... The C works fine. Didn't think someone would have changed the controls from the default setting on Doom... so when Doom Guy didn't strafe when I hit C and movement button, I thought it was broke.

Took it apart, might as well clean it...

Edit 2: Gonna need a better controller and better games. Iron Soldier alone can't carry the load. I haven't touched AvP yet, but I will tomorrow.
 
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Ooh, besides getting my Jag back, I did pick up a few games, as well. I probably wouldn't have grabbed any, but they had Last Blade 2 for the Dreamcast with the manual. They had a buy three get one free, and while I only saved 8 bucks, I feel I got some decent picks. Cool Spot for the Genesis (the SNES version seems to be the better option, but this will do), Primal Fury (Saturn, 3DO, Jaguar CD, and even PS1 versions are sold for MUCH and more), Need for Speed Nitro, and Luigis Mansion 2 HD. As well as a 3D party power supply for my Genesis (hoping this one doesn't have the buzzing issue), and an OEM 6 button Genesis controller.

I was going to grab Dual Blades, a moderately received fighting game for the GBA, but someone snatched it from under my nose while I was browsing for other games. The game was pretty much made by one man from Turkey.
 
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My haul from the MO Game Con.

Dreamcast Arcade Stick - Built by Agetec and officially licensed by Sega. The stick feels really good.
Nitrous Oxide - PS1. Racing game. Guy at vendor compared it to Rollcage. It looks really colorful.
Shantae - GBC. Repro, hence the price.
Pitfall 2 - Atari 2600. One of the 3 Atari 2600 games that I really wanted to get. Hero is not going to happen (and it's on a PS1 Anthology collection anyway). The other is Solaris. I was disappointed that I couldn't find that game. It's, by far, one of the coolest looking 2600 games out there. This copy of Pitfall 2 is not in the best shape, but Pitfall 2 isn't exactly the cheapest 2600 game out there, but I want it as it's a game that really does something special on the 2600 and I haven't been able to find it on collections (everything has the first game).
Rocket Knight Adventures - Gen. Some goofball with an obsession with naners seems to think this is one of the best games ever. I had to pick it up at some point.
Earthworm Jim - Gen. I also had a chance to buy CIB, including one that had a poster, but this was a game I resisted buying for a REALLY long time because of my concerns over the confusing level design. I was only comfortable getting the cart alone.
Ranger X - Gen. This game would have forever passed my attention without seeing this video on Genesis games that pushed the system's graphical limits.
Primal Rage - Gen. I recently acquired the SNES version, but the Genesis version is supposed to be the better one and 4 bucks was already cheaper than market, but I got it, Shaq Fu, and Pitfall SNES for $10 total. Easy buy.
Shaq Fu - Gen. Looking for 16 bit fighting games. While this is considered a bad game, it's not unplayable supposedly. Plus... 2 bucks.
Pitfall: The Mayan Adventure - SNES. I want the Jag version, but this will do.
Fighting History - SNES. One of the games I was on the lookout for walking in. This is a supposedly really competent Street Fighter knockoff. It was so well done that Capcom sued Data East for copyright infringement (and lost).
Battletoads/Double Dragon - SNES. The NES version is overpriced all to hell. This one was 30 bucks. Perfect price for the bundle.
Marvel vs Capcom 2 - Dreamcast, JP Import. So, I already have the Xbox version of the game, but it's got scratches and I'm worried about using it due to the high current price. This copy was 30 CIB. I now have both CvS and MvC games on the Dreamcast, only CvS1 is a US copy. Owning the MvC games won't matter when the Marvel vs Collection is released on the Switch later this year, but I still want them for collection purposes.
Xenoblade Chronicles - Wii. I think there's a remake on the Switch, but this is probably cheaper to get. I want to get X for the Wii U, because it is supposedly one of those games that really stretches the Wii U's capabilities to the point where they won't port it to the Switch (it probably won't fit on the SD card). It's an Action RPG, so that makes it easier to pick up. If it was turnbased like Fire Emblem, I wouldn't give it a second though.
Metal Slug Athology - PS2. I now have no need to go hunting for Metal Slug games.
Asterix and the Great Rescue - Gen. I couldn't find the Master Sytem game, but this will do. This was apparently developed by Core Design.
Manuals for F1 (GB) and Driver (PS1).

Things of interest I had a chance to buy, but chose no to because of price:
- Sega Ages - It was being sold for like 400 bucks. This has the best ports of Outrun and After Burner, but both can be found for the Saturn via imports for MUCH cheaper. It would actually be cheaper for me to buy a 32X and the After Burner Complete than to buy Sega Ages.
- Sonic Jam - Sonic Collection for the Saturn. The special thing about it is the demo world that shows what a 3D Sonic game could have potentially looked and played like on the Saturn.
- Primal Rage (Saturn) - The price the guy was selling it for was 130 which is market price for a CIB. He was willing to sell it for 60, and it wouldn't have felt right. I'm not THAT interested in getting Primal Rage for the Saturn. Primal Rage was not a game that I grew up playing. I'm fine with deciding if the SNES or Genesis version is better.
- Gameboy Pocket (black) - Lots of vendors had Gameboy Pockets. But only one had in black. The black was the one I grew up playing. They wanted to sell it for 100 bucks. MFer, the system isn't worth that much even with the backlight mod. As soon as the guy told me the price, I scoffed and walked away. eBay will give me a much better price.
- Wolfenstein 3D (Jaguar) - I saw AvP numerous times, Zool 2, Hover Strike, Supercross 3D, and a vendor had two copies of Doom. Wolfenstein 3D was the only one I was interested in buying, but 140 bucks for a game that is available just about everywhere is not something I'm willing to spend.
- Earthworm Jim 2 - I saw copies being sold slightly above market rate.

This WAS the first time I found copies of the first Spyro game on PS1 and they were mostly in line with the market price or cheaper, but owning the trilogy collection on the Switch, I didn't want to buy it. There was a CIB copy for 10 bucks, but the disc was heavily scratched, explaining the price. Also saw numerous 32X games for decent prices, especially Star Wars Arcade. But no 32X systems that were priced how I want.

Side note: Captial One inquired twice if it was me that was making these many purchases.

Found out that there's a monthly convention nearby that mostly focuses on toys, but also has VG vendors. Definitely going to check it out.
 
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Ok, Primal Rage's special move system is asinine... you have to hold two attack buttons at one time and THEN press the movements to use a move. This would work GREAT on an arcade stick. But I don't have one for the Genesis, and I just took apart my SNES one because the buttons kept sticking, so I felt I needed to clean them. It works well on arcade sticks because you already have multiple fingers set to press buttons. On a controller, only your thumbs do the work (save for shoulder buttons). If the buttons aren't right next to each other, it becomes difficult to use that move. Luckily, the Genesis version allows for the 6 button controller, and you can set two buttons for two of the special moves.

Also, the reason the Genesis game is considered better is because the gameplay is more responsive. The SNES version felt sluggish, even if I wasn't trying to figure out the special moves. The Genesis is UUUUUUGLY, though. Background humans are a random assortment of pixels and colors.

Ranger X is a looker, but the boss fight in the first level is ass. Dude takes up like 2/3 of the screen and shoots things at you. The hit box is high, and requires you to fly up to hit him, but your flying fuel is short.

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lol, there it would be impossible for someone to mistake the Shantae repro for an official copy. Ignoring the fact that it only says "GAME" at the top instead of "Nintendo GAME BOY", the plastic is cheap as shit. It's got a bad mold. Game works from what I can tell. First time getting a repro game. Wish someone would make repros of extremely rare Jag games that aren't being sold by Atari Age.
 
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Is the SNES version of Battletoads/Double Dragon different from the NES version at all?
Here's a quick look video comparing the GB, NES, SNES, and Genesis versions:



These quick look comparison vids tend to be misleading, though. Sometimes using emulators to show the differences, and also only using a single section or two to compare. Any many do not provide addition commentary.

Console Wars did a video going more into depth in comparing the SNES and Genesis versions. They also provide some brief comparisons to the NES version.

 

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Here's a quick look video comparing the GB, NES, SNES, and Genesis versions:



These quick look comparison vids tend to be misleading, though. Sometimes using emulators to show the differences, and also only using a single section or two to compare. Any many do not provide addition commentary.

Console Wars did a video going more into depth in comparing the SNES and Genesis versions. They also provide some brief comparisons to the NES version.


Damn, each version is so cool, but for their own reasons. I don't know which I'd prefer out of NES/SNES/Genesis...
 
Damn, each version is so cool, but for their own reasons. I don't know which I'd prefer out of NES/SNES/Genesis...
Based on the colors and some of the animations, the Genesis version seems like a straight port of the NES version with higher details and improved sound, but the SNES version changes some things so that it stands out as different for people in the 90s.
 
Traded in about 200 dollars with of games and strat guides. Had some discs resurfaced. My copy of Marvel vs Capcom 2 for the Xbox looks great now. It had a gnarly scratch and now I couldn't tell you where it was before.

I grabbed Motorstorm for the PS2, World Heroes 2 for the SNES, Battle Arena Toshindin for the Gameboy, Yars Revenge, Endro, and Demon Attack for the 2600.

Need more SNES and GB fighting games. I may have traded in Fatal Fury and Super Street Fighter 2, but I definitely need to find more fighting games for the system. Still annoyed I can't find a decent copy of Fatal Fury Special...

I think I've given up on Mortal Kombat games. I just cannot get into how they play. I'm honestly convinced they were only popular because of the blood and fatalities and not the gameplay because every single one I play seems to play like total ass. Even those early 2000s 3D jankfests that I found fun.
 
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