Zell Wolf Not Zell Wolf 2 Day 2

[A Punched Face]

Yes. And one of them is dead and may or may not have been a wolf. The other is alive and could be townie, solo, or wolf depending on what argument you want to make.

So yes, Zell's reading is open to interpretation. We just have to figure out which scenario is the most likely.

Well most likely is that dimmerwit wasn't a wolf.

That doesn't mean it's the real story though.

 

[Ants!]

Well most likely is that dimmerwit wasn't a wolf.

That doesn't mean it's the real story though.

True, but it was smart of Zell to make his next read based on mine. It's possible that Vash and Kat are both wolves, but only if Vash is voodoo and Kat is either the Sorcerer or Werewolf fan. I'm going to pick that as the less-likely scenario just based on odds. So chances are Kat is good and Vash is Librarian.

 

[Quagmire]

From what my conservative friends tell me, we can still get him to vote if he was registered democrat in life.

I bet they also like when we follow through with a lynching

 

[Local Hero]

So friends, I'm really not the Fool, so if dimmerwit is actually the preacher, Jon could be either wolf, solo killer, or Fool

 

[Quagmire]

@Local Hero

Reference to them to lynch Mike Pence on January 6th

 

[Local Hero]

@Local Hero

Reference to them to lynch Mike Pence on January 6th

I got the reference, sorry my react was confusing

 

[Quagmire]

Jon could be either wolf, solo killer, or Fool

Jon does have an avatar of a wolf....its kind of sus, but gamblers fallacy says he cant be a wolf every game

 

[Local Hero]

Jon does have an avatar of a wolf....its kind of sus, but gamblers fallacy says he cant be a wolf every game

 

[Ants!]

Okay good we can lynch Local now.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Okay good we can lynch Local now

I always believe the Fool suspect when he says he's not a Fool

 

[Local Hero]

I always believe the Fool suspect when he says he's not a Fool

But first (well...second?) I said I was the fool.

So, you know, you can trust me?

 

[Ants!]

you can trust me?

Funny quote with the question mark lol

 

[A Punched Face]

 

[Quagmire]

I always believe the Fool suspect when he says he's not a Fool

We have another person with Fool literally in their name....

 

[VashTheStampede]

So chances are Kat is good and Vash is Librarian.

 

[VashTheStampede]

We have another person with Fool literally in their name....

 

[Local Hero]

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[Quagmire]

 

[canadaguy]

So I think I'm likely to believe Jon here. I do think based on what he's said and done about being a wolf, he would act how he said he would if he were a solo. Basically, I believe him when he says he's town.

So that would leave dimmerwit as wolf, solo or solo killer. I also think the likelihood of us hitting the trickster first chance is unlikely, and if trickster cannot trickster another wolf, that means one of the solos. He's definitely not the fool (I'm assuming the fool win condition persists through the trickstering)

Anyways I think he's one of the solos... Maybe?

 

[canadaguy]

How confident are we that local is the fool?

 

[A Punched Face]

Hey so there's a chance Jon is both townie and won't show up as town aligned.

If he's been instigated.

 

[canadaguy]

Hey so there's a chance Jon is both townie and won't show up as town aligned.

If he's been instigated.

 

[Quagmire]

How confident are we that local is the fool?

Do you mean in the game or just in general?

 

[canadaguy]

Sometimes you just find the perfect gif

 

[Ants!]

So I think I'm likely to believe Jon here. I do think based on what he's said and done about being a wolf, he would act how he said he would if he were a solo. Basically, I believe him when he says he's town.

So that would leave dimmerwit as wolf, solo or solo killer. I also think the likelihood of us hitting the trickster first chance is unlikely, and if trickster cannot trickster another wolf, that means one of the solos. He's definitely not the fool (I'm assuming the fool win condition persists through the trickstering)

Anyways I think he's one of the solos... Maybe?

It says the trickster can choose somebody at any time, so he can wait until somebody is about to be lynched.

 

[canadaguy]

Do you mean in the game or just in general?

We solved the latter ages ago

 

[canadaguy]

It says the trickster can choose somebody at any time, so he can wait until somebody is about to be lynched.

Ok

 

[Tommy Boy]

ok hold on a minute here

 

[Local Hero]

ok hold on a minute here

 

[Tommy Boy]

Do we? Are you assuming dimmerwit was telling the truth?

I am not assuming.

More likely is Dimmerwit was town and Jon is solo or wolf.

This is correct.

As an assumption, sure, but Zell's read was ONLY that dimmerwit and I are on different teams. He was proven a wolf.

It's not an assumption. He's not a wolf, and I confirmed that last night.

By the role of the detective, teams are defined as "Villagers, Wolves, Fool, Solo killer." Not saying you need to believe me, but I'd like to know how you suspect me of being against the town at this point?

Because you're not on the same team as dimmerwit, who was the preacher.

Again, how do you figure? I am actually greater percent chance of being on the village team. So how are you suddenly confirming I am not a villager?

dimmerwit was the preacher.

Dimmerwit is the real trickster and I am on a different team than him.

Half correct - dimmerwit is not the wolf trickster and you are not on the village team.

Again, I can't yet prove I am not a solo, so you either have to take my word for it or not. Can't help you there, but I'll answer questions.

What is your exact role?

but when the night started benzine told me that i had been targeted by the nightmare wolf so i couldnt kill him last night.

thank you.

Alrighty. Lets make things more confusing. Or clearer. Y'all can be the judge of this info. Though I was silenced, I did get to have a nice chat with folks during the night. FrOm BeYoNd ThE GrAvE!!! OoOoOoOoOoOoHhHhhhhh...!

Nonsense alive, here's what I got.

Dimmerwit is still claiming to be a preacher. Seemed convincing enough, but can't really prove this or that.

Zell got his last check in. He said he checked Vash and Kat and they came out as same. Reasoning being trying to also double verify Ants's aura claim of Kat and Vash librarian/voodoo conundrum. So either they're all townie, or all wolves. I guess technically Ants could be solo and pretending to be an aura seer hoping to land a correct claim, but that seems very risky.

There's a revive up on a person. Even if I'm nuked that will still persist. Unless there's enough protection to go around making it worthwhile to tell everyone who it is in, I'll keep it to myself for now.

Fuck outta here. Lynch this lying motherfucker immediately.

 

[Tommy Boy]

Ohhhh Jawneh if that was your way of getting me to reveal myself, it worked. But fuck outta here with that.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Ok so either Jawneh or Tommy is the Fool

...there's no Fool, is there?

 

[Local Hero]

Mother fucking voting @Jawneh

 

[Tommy Boy]

Dictionary: https://gwforums.com/threads/zell-wolf-role-dictionary-and-hall-of-fame.427/

Note: There will be NO MORE than one person who has a "speak with the dead" role. There will also be no more than one person with a "lock players up at night" role. There may be none of either, but there won't be multiple.

 

[Tommy Boy]

Vote Jawneh everyone, we got a live one.

 

[Local Hero]

Ok so either Jawneh or Tommy is the Fool

...there's no Fool, is there?

I'm not that's for sure

 

[Ants!]

I am not assuming.

This is correct.

It's not an assumption. He's not a wolf, and I confirmed that last night.

Because you're not on the same team as dimmerwit, who was the preacher.

dimmerwit was the preacher.

Half correct - dimmerwit is not the wolf trickster and you are not on the village team.

What is your exact role?

thank you.

Fuck outta here. Lynch this lying motherfucker immediately.

I'm confused. For this entire post, you were making the case that Jon was either wolf or solo, then end it with lynching jawneh because he claimed a role?

 

[VashTheStampede]

Vote Jawneh everyone, we got a live one.

Ok but 2 things I'm concerned with

1. It would be an astronomically stupid play IMO to pretend to be a medium role as a wolf, because all it would take is another one to claim it for the jig to be up. So it's an EASY Fool play.

2. He actually gave some content. You're just saying "nuh uh".

 

[Quagmire]

I'm confused. For this entire post, you were making the case that Jon was either wolf or solo, then end it with lynching jawneh because he claimed a role?

I will say I forgot there are 2 solo roles so both Dimmer and Jon could be solo right? We know dimmer at worst wasn't the fool

 

[Tommy Boy]

I'm confused. For this entire post, you were making the case that Jon was either wolf or solo, then end it with lynching jawneh because he claimed a role?

Because he claimed MY role. The one of which there is only one of. Why would he lie about that AND clear certain people?

Ok but 2 things I'm concerned with

1. It would be an astronomically stupid play IMO to pretend to be a medium role as a wolf, because all it would take is another one to claim it for the jig to be up. So it's an EASY Fool play.

Very true and fair. We can shoot him instead.

2. He actually gave some content. You're just saying "nuh uh".

I've been trying to confirm dimmerwit as the preacher without blatantly saying I talked to him, but I talked to him and he is. He revealed this without knowing a ritualist would show up.

 

[Quagmire]

Ok but 2 things I'm concerned with

1. It would be an astronomically stupid play IMO to pretend to be a medium role as a wolf, because all it would take is another one to claim it for the jig to be up. So it's an EASY Fool play.

2. He actually gave some content. You're just saying "nuh uh".

So should we kill both Tommy and Jawneh just incase? Just don't lynch?

 

[canadaguy]

Ok but 2 things I'm concerned with

1. It would be an astronomically stupid play IMO to pretend to be a medium role as a wolf, because all it would take is another one to claim it for the jig to be up. So it's an EASY Fool play.

2. He actually gave some content. You're just saying "nuh uh".

Headhunter Tommy?

 

[Tommy Boy]

If there's a gunner in this town, now is the time to start blasting.

 

[Tommy Boy]

So should we kill both Tommy and Jawneh just incase? Just don't lynch?

We can have a really awesome game if we keep me alive, seriously. I had no intentions to reveal myself until someone else made me, and claiming my role pretty much forced my hand. I have one revive and it's set on Kelly right now. I will move it to the gunner if we have one.

 

[Quagmire]

If there's a gunner in this town, now is the time to start blasting.

 

[A Punched Face]

So Tommy, did you get a chance to talk to Zell last night?

 

[Jawneh]

I am not assuming.

This is correct.

It's not an assumption. He's not a wolf, and I confirmed that last night.

Because you're not on the same team as dimmerwit, who was the preacher.

dimmerwit was the preacher.

Half correct - dimmerwit is not the wolf trickster and you are not on the village team.

What is your exact role?

thank you.

Fuck outta here. Lynch this lying motherfucker immediately.

I mean, you didn't give us anything new, except you didn't even say anything about Zell. I don't know how  you are so clear about dimmerwit being who he is, unless you know more about what the wolves know. But hey. Maybe its different in your chat than in dead chat. You can make nice plausible ideas either the gang, yes?

And clearly Zell's info wasn't important to share either. Forgot to make up a story for that? Oops. It'd be good to have you  actually head over to the chat and ask him yourself.

Any gunner, take your pick. I can't prove myself any more than Tommy can.

 

[Jawneh]

Because he claimed MY role. The one of which there is only one of. Why would he lie about that AND clear certain people?

I'll give you three reasons:

Guardian
Alpha wolf
Avenger wolf

And to keep the town happy, say the same things I did so there's less holes in your story.

 

[Tommy Boy]

I mean, you didn't give us anything new, except you didn't even say anything about Zell. I don't know how  you are so clear about dimmerwit being who he is, unless you know more about what the wolves know.

Because dimmerwit said what his role was before knowing there was a speak with the dead role. Genuinely. Not connivingly.

But hey. Maybe its different in your chat than in dead chat. You can make nice plausible ideas either the gang, yes?

And clearly Zell's info wasn't important to share either. Forgot to make up a story for that? Oops. It'd be good to have you  actually head over to the chat and ask him yourself.

lmao, my dude, Zell didn't get killed until last night. He would not appear in the dead thread until I got removed at the beginning of the day. Again, fuck outta here. You'd know that if you were the ritualist but I think you're hoping people don't know how it works.

Any gunner, take your pick. I can't prove myself any more than Tommy can.

lmao

 

[VashTheStampede]

Omfg lmao