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VTS Mafia Mafia Legacy Year 2 (Night 3/Day 3)

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Trials/Death
In this game, you aren't voting to lynch anyone, you're voting to send them to jail. The person jailed is not immediately removed from the game, but instead is "put on trial" during the next day phase. Once jailed, they cannot use any special abilities until released from jail (be that by early release or being found Innocent). However, when on trial, you can feel free to role claim as much as you want to try and save your bacon. Otherwise, I ask that you refrain from any role claiming. Hinting, however, is allowed.

The minimum amount of votes to arrest a player will be roughly the number of citizens / 2.

A handful of players will be chosen at random as the Jury for each trial and they will decide if the player is Guilty or Innocent. Guilty players are killed and removed from the game. Jury Verdicts are decided by simple majority.

Jurors get 1 vote and cannot change it. Be sure before you make your decision.

During each day phase you will also be concurrently deciding the next player to arrest (keep an eye on those juries).

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Tells/Clues
Each mafioso will have a "Tell", which will somehow affect how they participate in the game. When a Citizen uncovers a "Clue", they will learn one of these "Tells" at random.

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Tarot Cards
Each player will be assigned a Major Arcana Tarot Card. This is mainly for randomization purposes but will be used in other mechanics as well.

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In this game there are 11 Citizen roles, chosen from the following:

Lawyer: Once per game can release a Defendant from Jail, by contacting the Governor via DM.
Gumshoe: Each night, can guess one of the Tells. If they are correct, this will be confirmed, uncovering that Clue.
Good Cop: Once per game, at night, can arrest a player to be put on trial the next day.
Vigilante: Each night, can watch over a player. If that player is attacked by the mob, a random mobster dies instead. (If the attacker was the Button Man, the Button Man will be the one killed)
Judge: Once per game, during a trial, can either release a player or condemn them to death.
The Snitch: When arrested for the first time, uncovers a Clue.
The Madam: Each night, she can provide shelter for a player, preventing kills or arrests. The protected player cannot use abilities.
Clairvoyant: Each night, uses their mystical abilities to converse with the land of the dead.
Gypsy: During the day, chooses a Tarot card from the first 16 Major Arcana (via DM to me). If the player that corresponds to that card dies, uncovers a Clue. If the corresponding player had publicly announced their Arcana, the Gypsy subsequently loses this power.
The Patsy: When killed, uncovers a Clue.
The Foreman: Gets 2 votes when on a jury. Breaks ties.
The Angry Man: If placed on a Jury that finds a Citizen Not Guilty, uncovers a Clue (if they voted Not Guilty).
Bailiff: Once per trial, can switch a Juror out for a player not on the current jury. This can be a player in another jury, but they will trade places in this situation. (Via DM to me)
The Librarian: If the Librarian is in the game, anyone who makes more than 30 posts in a day can be "Shushed". "Shushed" players can only post once the following day.
Peeping Tom: Can watch a player at night. If that player is attacked, uncovers a Clue.
Barkeep: During the day can attempt to poison a player via public post. If the target is a villain, they are killed. If the target is a Citizen, the Barkeep dies instead.


In this game there are 4 Mobsters, chosen from the following:
The Don: Can only be killed by being found Guilty at Trial. There will always be a Don in the game.
The Consigliere: Each night can investigate a player, discovering their role.
The Cleaner: Twice per game can prevent deceased player roles from being revealed to the City at daybreak. The Cleaner will still learn these roles.
The Button Man: Once per game, at night, can kill a player in addition to the normal mob kill.
Mob Lawyer: Once per game can release a Defendant from Jail, by contacting the Governor via DM.
The Con Man: At night, can give a Citizen a random Tell that they have to perform for the rest of the game. If they fail to perform that Tell while the Con Man is alive, the Citizen is killed.

Solo Player:
Mad Bomber: Each night, can tag a player who posted an equal or fewer times than the Mad Bomber the previous day. At any point during the day, can trigger their explosives, killing all tagged players.

Win Conditions:
Citizens: Eliminate the Mafia and the Mad Bomber
Mafia: Eliminate the Mad Bomber and have the same number of players as the Citizens
Mad Bomber: If they are alive when the last Citizen OR Mobster dies, they win.

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@A Leftover Bowl of Alphabet Soup in the New ABODE
@Smacktard
@Tubby23
@Tommy Boy
@Jawneh
@Zell 17
@Fool's Requiem
Benzine
@Jon
@Local Hero
Kat
@Joseph Snapple
@canadaguy

Please do not discuss the game outside of the game thread unless you're in Mafia Chat
 

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Beating a Dead Horse

"How long does this usually take? I feel like a fish outta water in a spot like this."

"Hold your horses."

"Ain't my fault you're moving at a snail's pace."

"Just trying to get my ducks in a row..."

"Well get movin'! I'm busy as a bee these days and can't be wastin' all this damn time!"

"Look, YOU came to ME, busting into my place like a bull in a china shop."

"Well a little birdie told me you're the best, even if this is usually a job for a dame."

"Oh you do NOT want to open THAT can of worms, pal."


"Alright, alright! Don't have a cow about it! Jeez!"

"QUIET! The crystal ball is becoming clearer! Yes...yes...I see your future...the world is your oyster."


"Jesus Christ, lady. You're as useless as tits on a bull! I got half-a-mind to sock you right in the jaw."

"Again, not a lady. Just a guy trying to make a living in a historically female-dominated field. Its a lot, okay. Just let sleeping dogs lie."

"Alright, alright! Sorry, I got a lot goin' on right now! Loan shark is after me and I haven't had the time to gather up any scratch 'cause I've been stuck on that kangaroo court all week. Normally I'm loaded for bear, I ain't no damn scaredy-cat, but all this malarky has got me mad as a box of frogs!"

"Yes...the moment you walked in my door I could see that albatross hanging around your neck. Now can we continue?"

"Sure, sure. Lets get back to the dog-and-pony show."

"And now...let us see what the Ouija board has to say about your future. C...r...i...c...k...e...t...s"

"Oh god did I back the wrong horse here or what? What the hell does that mean?"

"I think it means your goose is cooked."

"Okay okay, lad--uh laddy. Enough of this cock and bull story. I just need to know where I put my car keys. I can't be takin' the damn bus every day, those things explode!"

"Oh, right right. Your dog ate them. That'll be $50. On your way out can you tell that other fella that's been waiting that it'll be a couple minutes? I gotta drain the lizard."

"The guy in the black pinstripe suit and fedora who's wearing gloves when its 80 degrees outside? Yeah, I'll tell that cool cat to sit a spell longer."

Jawneh has been killed by The Button Man! He was The Angry Man. (The Empress)

Dean has been killed by the Mafia! He was the Clairvoyant. (The Lovers)
 
Alright guys!

I'm the snitch. I purposely used what I thought would be an obvious tell to get on trial. I will now make zero references to [blank] from here on out.

The good news: I got a clue.

The bad news: it was the same clue as Tommy's, praise RNJesus. At least we know Tommy is a townie.

That clue was: one tell is you have to make two posts that include an animal name.

The more bad news: Zell is Mafia 100% (animal tells) and he's on my jury. If Fool is Mafia and he makes any more food posts he's Mafia too, but hopefully he not...

Anyone who voted guilty on me should be treated as evil.
 

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Alright guys!

I'm the snitch. I purposely used what I thought would be an obvious tell to get on trial. I will now make zero references to [blank] from here on out.

The good news: I got a clue.

The bad news: it was the same clue as Tommy's, praise RNJesus. At least we know Tommy is a townie.

That clue was: one tell is you have to make two posts that include an animal name.

The more bad news: Zell is Mafia 100% (animal tells) and he's on my jury. If Fool is Mafia and he makes any more food posts he's Mafia too, but hopefully he not...

Anyone who voted guilty on me should be treated as evil.
You know what they say, snitches get @Zell 17 arrested (vote Zell)
 
Alright guys!

I'm the snitch. I purposely used what I thought would be an obvious tell to get on trial. I will now make zero references to [blank] from here on out.

The good news: I got a clue.

The bad news: it was the same clue as Tommy's, praise RNJesus. At least we know Tommy is a townie.

That clue was: one tell is you have to make two posts that include an animal name.

The more bad news: Zell is Mafia 100% (animal tells) and he's on my jury. If Fool is Mafia and he makes any more food posts he's Mafia too, but hopefully he not...

Anyone who voted guilty on me should be treated as evil.
I am 100% NOT mafia, and there are several people who have made multiple animal posts, and I will not be mentioning any animals today.

So you’re 0 for 3 after recycling Tommy’s info. Great start towards proving innocence IMO.
 

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I am 100% NOT mafia, and there are several people who have made multiple animal posts, and I will not be mentioning any animals today.

So you’re 0 for 3 after recycling Tommy’s info. Great start towards proving innocence IMO.
It’s easy enough to see if he is mafia. If he doesn’t make any beverage posts, he will be outed by Vash. If he does, then he lied about his role and we arrest him the next day and kill him
 
It’s easy enough to see if he is mafia. If he doesn’t make any beverage posts, he will be outed by Vash. If he does, then he lied about his role and we arrest him the next day and kill him
Yeah I don’t think Local is mafia. I just think he’s way under thinking on the animal thing. Like I said, what happens when I mention zero animals, don’t die, and I’m on the stand tomorrow and need to be acquitted? We’re losing time.
 
I am 100% NOT mafia, and there are several people who have made multiple animal posts, and I will not be mentioning any animals today.

So you’re 0 for 3 after recycling Tommy’s info. Great start towards proving innocence IMO.
I'm not 100% if it's multiple posts (1 animal per post x2 = two animals) or two animals in one post.

I think as long as two animals are mentioned.

The tell includes the name of the mafioso, so once Tommy gets here, he'll confirm the name, which was Jimmy Zoos.

I could not possibly know this without being the snitch and getting a genuine clue.
 

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@Vash by what time do all "tells" have to be submitted? When is the tell revealed if the conditions are not met?
I think Vash mentioned they have all day. It puts the town at a disadvantage without a pro-town killing role, because now Zell can wait until the last minute by scheduling a post and we may arrest the wrong person
 

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@Vash by what time do all "tells" have to be submitted? When is the tell revealed if the conditions are not met?
End of Day

End of Day

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I think Vash mentioned they have all day. It puts the town at a disadvantage without a pro-town killing role, because now Zell can wait until the last minute by scheduling a post and we may arrest the wrong person
You can see any posts I schedule!

Plus I mean it would be kinda obvious if my last post was

xxxx animal
Xxxx animal
 

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Aha ha! How does it feel Local??? Your fate is in my chlamydia-riddled hands.

FWIW I am somewhat suspicious of Local, but not willing to commit just yet. But this piece of info is important:
The tell includes the name of the mafioso, so once Tommy gets here, he'll confirm the name, which was Jimmy Zoos.
@Tommy Boy can you confirm?

Even if Tommy confirms, it's possible that mafiosos know the name of their tell. @VashTheStampede can you confirm this?

If the alcohol thing really is a tell, Local may not make an alcohol post all day until the very end of the day and force us to take another two days to execute. FWIW I think not pulling the trigger on FR the other day may have been a mistake considering the time delay to set up these trials.
 
Aha ha! How does it feel Local??? Your fate is in my chlamydia-riddled hands.

FWIW I am somewhat suspicious of Local, but not willing to commit just yet. But this piece of info is important:

@Tommy Boy can you confirm?

Even if Tommy confirms, it's possible that mafiosos know the name of their tell. @VashTheStampede can you confirm this?

If the alcohol thing really is a tell, Local may not make an alcohol post all day until the very end of the day and force us to take another two days to execute. FWIW I think not pulling the trigger on FR the other day may have been a mistake considering the time delay to set up these trials.
I think Local not volunteering to be on trial first is a big mistake if he’s confirmed by Tommy
 
I've been drinking way too long to analyse much. But it's certainly better not being shooshed if only to contribute.

Why me though canadaguy? I proved yesterday in my allowed post that I have no tell.
Snapple had zero posts yesterday and was the one killed by the Bomber. You only posted once because of the librarian thing.

You might be the Bomber, or this might be a ploy by the Bomber to set you up.
 

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Snapple had zero posts yesterday and was the one killed by the Bomber. You only posted once because of the librarian thing.

You might be the Bomber, or this might be a ploy by the Bomber to set you up.
Anyone could be the Bomber given JS didn't post. It certainly makes sense to frame someone who couldn't post the day before
 

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Ok here are some of the notes I have compiled and I can identify the four mobsters in the game

The Mob
  • The Don
  • The Consigliere who was Benzine and is now deceased
  • The Button Man because they killed Jawneh
  • The Con Man because I know

This means there is no Cleaner or Mob Lawyer in the game

Citizens
  • Lawyer was Joseph Snapple now deceased
  • Gumshoe was TD now deceased
  • The Clairvoyant was Dean now deceased
  • The Angry Man was Jawneh now deceased
  • The Librarian we know is in the game and I suspect this to be canadaguy
  • The Peeping Tom is suspected in the game and was alluded to be FR
  • The Snitch is suspected in the game and is alluded to be Local Hero
That is seven of the eleven citizen roles

Zell is suspected to have an animal tell which would link him to one of the three remaining mob roles

The bad news: it was the same clue as Tommy's, praise RNJesus. At least we know Tommy is a townie.

I think I missed where Tommy mentioned a clue and humbly request someone point me to it

You know what they say, snitches get @Zell 17 arrested (vote Zell)

This strikes me as odd behavior

Reserving the right to change later I am going to submit my arrest request for shortkut
 

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Found it

I saw it I just did not register it as a clue

Here is is for others to reference

I come with information.

From this point forward, if anyone talks about animals, naming them or just using a common speech phrase with an animal involved ("cut out the 🐒 business", or "I have to try this in the 🐺 game" etc) will immediately be suspicious and I will be calling you out. I have a short list of people who mentioned animals twice both days. If ANYONE is to post ANY reference to ANY animal from this point forward, we MUST arrest that person.
 
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