Zell Wolf GWF Zell Wolf Volume XIII Day 3

[Zell 17]

Or post it now. What’s the worst that happens, Zell kills your character in an act of god? Just make a saving throw (did I use that terminology correctly?)

Maybe God is vengeful and kills collaborators too

 

[shortkut]

Maybe God is vengeful and kills collaborators too

I am not assisting in this. I am providing different possible scenarios and letting him decide entirely on his own. I am neither encouraging nor discouraging anything that is against the rules

 

[VashTheStampede]

I am not assisting in this. I am providing different possible scenarios and letting him decide entirely on his own. I am neither encouraging nor discouraging anything that is against the rules

Run that one by your lawyer?

 

[Jon]

Run that one by your lawyer?

 

[shortkut]

Run that one by your lawyer?

I think it will hold up. I never said it was a good idea or that I’m encouraging you to do it. I presented and alternative and tried to think of one of the worst outcomes that could result to avoid making it seem like a good idea

 

[shortkut]

what does Vegas say the line is on @Tommy Boy pretending to be muted?

 

[Tommy Boy]

what does Vegas say the line is on @Tommy Boy pretending to be muted?

 

[Tommy Boy]

 

[Tommy Boy]

Far enough in where I'll go for it, since Vash will be too. I have ruffled enough feathers since day one to be a wolf kill target, but I've been ignored by them.

Theories:

• They have a seeing type roll and found out I'm BH fairly early, so they left me alone knowing they can't get me.
• They don't have a seer type roll but narrowed me down to what is believed to be Corruptor

Issues with logic:

• No wolf kill last night. Could have converted fan or something weird. Perhaps targeted actual corruptor.
• Both a Corruptor and Librarian are in this game. There was never a day where two people were muted. Responsible role usage from Kelly? Accidentally targeting the same person during the night?

Problems for me:

• I'm aware I voted for TD Day 1 and somewhat pushed for that. I don't think that makes me guilty because TD ended up being a preacher with no reads on anybody. I'm annoyed we killed a townie right away, but there were too many contradictions to ignore. In retrospect, we know TD was having fun with the role and amped up, but I saw this as a deflection so we would either focus on him or ignore him. Didn't really get anywhere with Day 1.
• Day 2, I was not around to switch my lynch vote to count toward anyone. Not like I'm bothered, since we had enough, but I feel that's shitty from a team perspective and I apologize. I would double down on someone caught not voting with someone who has been "proven" to be evil, so I wanted to clarify why I did not vote.

Going forward:

• The only people that can kill me right now are y'all with a lynch, or the corruptor tomorrow. I'd prefer to not be lynched and see if the wolves try and call my bluff, but I doubt they will do so when they can pick someone else rather than chancing it on a BH.
• Don't lynch me today. Or ever, really.

 

[shortkut]

Far enough in where I'll go for it, since Vash will be too. I have ruffled enough feathers since day one to be a wolf kill target, but I've been ignored by them.

Theories:

• They have a seeing type roll and found out I'm BH fairly early, so they left me alone knowing they can't get me.
• They don't have a seer type roll but narrowed me down to what is believed to be Corruptor

Issues with logic:

• No wolf kill last night. Could have converted fan or something weird. Perhaps targeted actual corruptor.
• Both a Corruptor and Librarian are in this game. There was never a day where two people were muted. Responsible role usage from Kelly? Accidentally targeting the same person during the night?

Problems for me:

• I'm aware I voted for TD Day 1 and somewhat pushed for that. I don't think that makes me guilty because TD ended up being a preacher with no reads on anybody. I'm annoyed we killed a townie right away, but there were too many contradictions to ignore. In retrospect, we know TD was having fun with the role and amped up, but I saw this as a deflection so we would either focus on him or ignore him. Didn't really get anywhere with Day 1.
• Day 2, I was not around to switch my lynch vote to count toward anyone. Not like I'm bothered, since we had enough, but I feel that's shitty from a team perspective and I apologize. I would double down on someone caught not voting with someone who has been "proven" to be evil, so I wanted to clarify why I did not vote.

Going forward:

• The only people that can kill me right now are y'all with a lynch, or the corruptor tomorrow. I'd prefer to not be lynched and see if the wolves try and call my bluff, but I doubt they will do so when they can pick someone else rather than chancing it on a BH.
• Don't lynch me today. Or ever, really.

That’s a lot of words to say nothing of substance

 

[Jawneh]

Voting @Jawneh for being wolf. I doubt he would have carried on this long with that act if he wasn’t wolf. This way he doesn’t have to lie and we all think it’s a joke

The whole wolf claim deal could be an attempt to get killed as a Fool. Or it's a wonderful play by an actual wolf. Or an almost as wonderful but slightly less wonderful play by a Corruptor.

Being a wolf is easy. You just come here and post and just remember that you're a wolf. This is much more convenient than reacting to every single post people make.

... and I kept that bit going the whole game too. And it wasn't just hitting "like." I tried to also make the reactions somewhat accurate to what I thought was going on in that post.

I would say you two are correct to get rid of me just in case if I hadn't already declared before the game what I was doing. Mighty convenient to actually become a wolf after saying I'd openly play as one, right?

But in the end you'd still be correct to go and get me lynched as I am a wolf. The point of the game is to lynch wolves after all. Considering we're now down both Ben and Jumpy officially, it's getting pretty lonely in wolf chat. The odds of us winning is pretty slim now with quite a few townies and the corrupter still being alive. I'll obviously still carry on and keep eating everyone as I get a chance until I'm lynched.

 

[VashTheStampede]

I would say you two are correct to get rid of me just in case if I hadn't already declared before the game what I was doing. Mighty convenient to actually become a wolf after saying I'd openly play as one, right?

Yeah, this all makes sense except for the fact that, by using this method, you're basically a Passenger in Wolf's Clothing.

You're not helping, so no reason to feel bad about sending you to the other thread.

 

[Tommy Boy]

That’s a lot of words to say nothing of substance

As opposed to your little amount of words with nothing of substance? I revealed my role, gave reasons why I think I was avoided or seen, provided talking points on the logic for reinforcement from others, and attempted to clear the air of what I thought were mistakes by me. That's more than I had to say or do. Nobody asked. Nobody put pressure on me.

I know you want to find holes in whatever you think I'm doing so you can justify voting for me a bunch of times, but directly speaking, I am the Beast Hunter, and it is a waste of time to pursue me.

 

[Jon]

It's looking more like Raine is the corrupted party member. Which is not what I was anticipating for my theory.

 

[Jawneh]

Yeah, this all makes sense except for the fact that, by using this method, you're basically a Passenger in Wolf's Clothing.

You're not helping, so no reason to feel bad about sending you to the other thread.

I've been using my energy to be a wolf and work out wolf plans out in the open. Sure, it's not pointing fingers at people and getting lynched the next day when y'all found out I said to lynch a townie or anything, but I feel the bit has contributed something.

Plus considering day 1 was a.... wash, as per normal in our games, and yesterday everyone came around to the plan to lynch Kelly before the corruption ate him. So... I was a passenger at best yesterday even though i was the first to agree that killing Kelly was a decent idea as we wouldnt lose his role to the eather. And now public enemy #1.

 

[Tommy Boy]

And now public enemy #1.

I have more lynch votes than you do

 

[Jawneh]

I have more lynch votes than you do

Which makes me a sad sad pupper...

Though very happy too since I'm not that close to being dead!

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Raine is our silenced hero today.

 

[Kat]

I'm not muted, just on the west coast and like to sleep in.

TD was right about the nightmare wolf after all. I wonder why they never used it.

Edit: nevermind, I'm mixing up shadow and nightmare

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Would someone mind doing a quick chart or something providing the role claims? I'd do it myself, but I worry about accidentally outing the Medium.

 

[Jawneh]

I'm not muted, just on the west coast and like to sleep in.

TD was right about the nightmare wolf after all. I wonder why they never used it.

Edit: nevermind, I'm mixing up shadow and nightmare

Well, the nightmare not shadow may have been used by us already once and possibly today too. If everyone sans corrupted person posted today and never said anything about being nightmared, then it wasn't used or was used on corrupted people.

Whoever was nightmared should come out and say they were. That's a free credit check. If we end up with two for some odd reason then someone is full of beans. They'd definitely not be a wolf though, as wolves are carnivores and not full of beans at all.

 

[VashTheStampede]

After going back and reading through the last couple days, I'm taking my vote off of Tommy.

 

[Kat]

I'm glad the wolves didn't eat a townie last night, but I'm disappointed Raine will have an excuse to report two blue reads again.

Between the MM kill last night and one of the wolves being a nightmare wolf, I trust Vash to be a townie. I was a bit concerned the corruptor didn't actually target Smacktard and he was only muted, but that seems even more unlikely now. That also means Raine's day 1 read was legit, which is a point in her favor, but doesn't 100% clear her.

Whoever was nightmared should come out and say they were. That's a free credit check. If we end up with two for some odd reason then someone is full of beans. They'd definitely not be a wolf though, as wolves are carnivores and not full of beans at all.

Wolves would know who it was used on and therefore when it would be safe to lie about it.

Honestly most of your suggestions seem pretty fishy to me.

 

[Jawneh]

Wolves would know who it was used on and therefore when it would be safe to lie about it.

Honestly most of your suggestions seem pretty fishy to me.

.... and that is because I am a....?

 

[shortkut]

As opposed to your little amount of words with nothing of substance? I revealed my role, gave reasons why I think I was avoided or seen, provided talking points on the logic for reinforcement from others, and attempted to clear the air of what I thought were mistakes by me. That's more than I had to say or do. Nobody asked. Nobody put pressure on me.

I know you want to find holes in whatever you think I'm doing so you can justify voting for me a bunch of times, but directly speaking, I am the Beast Hunter, and it is a waste of time to pursue me.

 

[Jawneh]

Have some fun Kat. You know what the answer is.

 

[Kat]

Would someone mind doing a quick chart or something providing the role claims? I'd do it myself, but I worry about accidentally outing the Medium.

Raine claiming spirit seer
Vash probably MM
Jawneh claiming wolf
Tommy claiming BH
FR is Gunner

I don't think I've seen claims from anybody else

 

[Lee]

Is outing ourselves the usual done thing? I’m the flagger.

 

[Kat]

Is outing ouresolves the usual done thing? I’m the flagger.

It depends on the person and their role (some people don't like to role claim and some roles get targeted by evils), but usually the town wins by most roles coming out.

I still don't know if Jump actually doesn't like to role claim or if he just doesn't like to lie, because he's always evil.

 

[Jawneh]

Is outing ouresolves the usual done thing? I’m the flagger.

There's a few schools of thought. Some say yes, some say no. Some only hint to keep things a bit more fun for them.

 

[Jon]

but usually the town wins

You could have stopped typing here.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

@Jawneh how would you feel if I shot you?

 

[Zell 17]

You could have stopped typing here.

I'll say the town has won less than half of the games since we went full random. If they win this one they'll be back up to 50%.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

I'll say the town has won less than half of the games since we went full random. If they win this one they'll be back up to 50%.

if I shoot right, I like our chances.

 

[Zell 17]

I'll say the town has won less than half of the games since we went full random. If they win this one they'll be back up to 50%.

Actually I lied, if the town wins here they'll still be under .500

 

[Zell 17]

Since we went random (game 9) it's been:

Town win
Fool win
Wolf win
Fool win

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Fool is OP, pls nerf

 

[Kat]

I forgot the fools won twice!

 

[Fool's Requiem]

I just realized I haven't posted any Scarlett gifs

 

[Jawneh]

@Jawneh how would you feel if I shot you?

I'd be sad since my wolf bit would die before the end of the game. :/ I don't even get lynched after saying I'm a wolf since day 1.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

@Jawneh, how useless is your role?

 

[Jawneh]

@Jawneh, how useless is your role?

Gotta be a bit specific there bud. My wolf role, or my role claim?

 

[Kat]

Fool is OP, pls nerf

Well look what happened day one of this game. TD was clearly fucking around, and people still lynched him without a second thought. I feel like the town is just tired of trying to avoid the fool.

Funny thing is I seriously considered jumping on the Benzine wagon this game.

 

[Jawneh]

Funny thing is I seriously considered jumping on the Benzine wagon this game.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Gotta be a bit specific there bud. My wolf role, or my role claim?

Here's the thing... I don't believe that if you actually got wolf, that you would keep up this shtick. Especially since people could have easily forgotten that you stated that your plan was to claim wolf regardless.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Of course, you could continue to do this as reverse psychology, but considering the ease in which TD got himself lynched, I'm not so sure that is a risk you'd take.

 

[Jawneh]

Here's the thing... I don't believe that if you actually got wolf, that you would keep up this shtick. Especially since people could have easily forgotten that you stated that your plan was to claim wolf regardless.

It came back at some point day 1 or day 2 and another person said it too. At worst, they forgot and got me killed during the night. During the day, I got a voice though. In the end, I'm having fun with this.

So, which role are you interested in?

 

[Kat]

Here's the thing... I don't believe that if you actually got wolf, that you would keep up this shtick. Especially since people could have easily forgotten that you stated that your plan was to claim wolf regardless.

Really? That'd be the best time to stick with it IMO. Someone was bound to remember and bring it up.

I find it suspicious because instead of posting things the wolves reasonably could be doing, he's been posting misleading nonsense. That fits with the RP, of course, but I'd expect it to be a bit more helpful if he was actually town.

It's hard to say for sure, though.

 

[Jawneh]

Of course, you could continue to do this as reverse psychology, but considering the ease in which TD got himself lynched, I'm not so sure that is a risk you'd take.

Oh no. You're wrong there. My way or the high way baby. I'm no coward. And I do weird things. Zell still has flashbacks to when I was a gunner, about to get lynched, and I never pulled the trigger to let everyone know who I was lol.

 

[Kat]

Medium or ritualist, tonight can you check with the dead wolves to see if they know who the corrupter is? It benefits the town and the remaining wolves to get them off the board

Does anybody else find this suspicious? There's seven townies and two wolves. They need the corruptor. This plan lets an already dead wolf get a townie lynched (so zero repercussions for getting caught lying) and outs the medium.