Zell Wolf GWF Zell Wolf Version XI Day 3

[Benzine]

I'm starting to come around on this whole Benzine thing

didn't you very early on insinuate, imply, or even say i was good? or was that a dream i had

 

[Benzine]

i will have to remove vash from the good side of my spreadsheet

 

[TD]

I genuinely can't tell if Benzine is telling the truth or not because even when he lies he keeps it simple.

 

[VashTheStampede]

didn't you very early on insinuate, imply, or even say i was good? or was that a dream i had

I believe I had you listed as possibly cool yesterday

 

[Tubby23]

Fuckin southern hemisphere just now learning Dean claimed seer

I knew Dean was claiming Seer. I had to sit here for 48 hours just reading not commenting, so that was actually helpful in some ways

 

[VashTheStampede]

I knew Dean was claiming Seer. I had to sit here for 48 hours just reading not commenting, so that was actually helpful in some ways

Then how did you not read his check claims??

I am losing my mind

 

[Tubby23]

I genuinely can't tell if Benzine is telling the truth or not because even when he lies he keeps it simple.

It's funny because the post that you all said made no sense, actually made perfect sense to me

 

[Tubby23]

Then how did you not read his check claims??

I am losing my mind

I said Noted, but I'm noting what he claims not that I believe him. Yet.

 

[Dean]

Who do you all want me to check tonight? I don't care. Pick anybody.

 

[Tubby23]

As in "sure, that's what you say". I'm still sceptical.

I'm perhaps more sceptical of Benzine, and perhaps my Day 1 suggestion that both he and Jawneh were wolves putting on a show was correct

 

[VashTheStampede]

I want the sheriff to check me like he said

 

[Tubby23]

Who do you all want me to check tonight? I don't care. Pick anybody.

 

[Dean]

Anybody oppose me checking Tubby?

Edit: We have a shit ton of time

 

[Benzine]

I want the sheriff to check me like he said

wolf talk spotted

 

[Benzine]

Anybody oppose me checking Tubby?

Edit: We have a shit ton of time

do it

 

[VashTheStampede]

wolf talk spotted

All the more reason

 

[Kat]

All right, I have an idea.

We have 11 total people left and 3 wolves, so that gives us some leeway to lose townies.

I propose you kill me. I'm the loudmouth. I can verify Dean's role, so you will know if you can trust him. If you can, it confirms FR as good. You'll also know Raine is probably good since she cleared me. We can skip the lynch and have Ben kill me, which will clear him too. Including Tommy, that'll give you five people you can probably trust. Combine that with knowing Vash was definitely not the person who killed Kut, and you have a good shot of nabbing a wolf tomorrow.

 

[Benzine]

All the more reason

double wolf talk, why tf would the wolves kill you if you were a wolf

 

[VashTheStampede]

double wolf talk, why tf would the wolves kill you if you were a wolf

 

[VashTheStampede]

All right, I have an idea.

We have 11 total people left and 3 wolves, so that gives us some leeway to lose townies.

I propose you kill me. I'm the loudmouth. I can verify Dean's role, so you will know if you can trust him. If you can, it confirms FR as good. You'll also know Raine is probably good since she cleared me. We can skip the lynch and have Ben kill me, which will clear him too. Including Tommy, that'll give you five people you can probably trust. Combine that with knowing Vash was definitely not the person who killed Kut, and you have a good shot of nabbing a wolf tomorrow.

Ok ok I'll stop shitposting, no need to be all dramatic and quit

 

[Tubby23]

Kat its a very interesting offer, I really hope you are a townie as it would be great for us.

 

[Benzine]

Kat its a very interesting offer, I really hope you are a townie as it would be great for us.

yeah, but if she's a wolf, that'd suck!

 

[Kat]

Kat its a very interesting offer, I really hope you are a townie as it would be great for us.

If I'm not, it's still great for you!

 

[VashTheStampede]

yeah, but if she's a wolf, that'd suck!

 

[TD]

All right, I have an idea.

We have 11 total people left and 3 wolves, so that gives us some leeway to lose townies.

I propose you kill me. I'm the loudmouth. I can verify Dean's role, so you will know if you can trust him. If you can, it confirms FR as good. You'll also know Raine is probably good since she cleared me. We can skip the lynch and have Ben kill me, which will clear him too. Including Tommy, that'll give you five people you can probably trust. Combine that with knowing Vash was definitely not the person who killed Kut, and you have a good shot of nabbing a wolf tomorrow.

First Jumpman then this?

This is a wild game.

 

[Benzine]

View attachment 4922

weird deck bro

 

[TD]

So uh.. once Ben pops in do we just.. skip?

 

[VashTheStampede]

I'm... having a hard time arguing with Kat's plan.

It's pretty rad.

 

[Ben]

All right, I have an idea.

We have 11 total people left and 3 wolves, so that gives us some leeway to lose townies.

I propose you kill me. I'm the loudmouth. I can verify Dean's role, so you will know if you can trust him. If you can, it confirms FR as good. You'll also know Raine is probably good since she cleared me. We can skip the lynch and have Ben kill me, which will clear him too. Including Tommy, that'll give you five people you can probably trust. Combine that with knowing Vash was definitely not the person who killed Kut, and you have a good shot of nabbing a wolf tomorrow.

The largest problem I see with this is that if I kill another villager, I die. While that'd prove that you were innocent, it doesn't provide the waterfall of other information like you said. It'd have to be an actual village lynch vote, not me going all Supreme Court.

 

[Benzine]

i'm 97% sure canadaguy put his revive on me too

 

[Tubby23]

So uh.. once Ben pops in do we just.. skip?

No because we can then lynch based off the info

 

[TD]

No because we can then lynch based off the info

Ben proving he's the Judge would be the lynch.

 

[TD]

Unless of course - Ben isn't.

 

[Tubby23]

Ben proving he's the Judge would be the lynch.

But then we'd also get a voted lynch wouldn't we? I swear previous judge games the judge did their business and we kept voting

 

[Kat]

The largest problem I see with this is that if I kill another villager, I die. While that'd prove that you were innocent, it doesn't provide the waterfall of other information like you said. It'd have to be an actual village lynch vote, not me going all Supreme Court.

Oh, I didn't read your role and didn't realize that.

You can lynch me today then, and you can kill whoever seems most likely to be a wolf tomorrow based on what you learn.

 

[Kat]

But then we'd also get a voted lynch wouldn't we? I swear previous judge games the judge did their business and we kept voting

Judge power only comes into effect if there's no lynch at the end of the day, IIRC.

 

[TD]

But then we'd also get a voted lynch wouldn't we? I swear previous judge games the judge did their business and we kept voting

You're thinking of Vash's game with trials.

 

[Tubby23]

Judge power only comes into effect if there's no lynch at the end of the day, IIRC.

Perhaps I'm confusing with a Vash game or I'm completely off base.

 

[Tubby23]

Sorry guys my bad.

I'm down with the plan on a lynch Kat basis

 

[Raine]

Set as what? A vote? No one right now.

I don't FULLY trust you yet, so I'm not exonerating Kat who is still my top sus-o-meter.

Uh-huh... are we trying to emulate some Contra here or what? A conspiracy is afoot and you appear to possibly be asleep at the wheel.

Anyway off to read all this nonsense. The poll is not encouraging!

 

[VashTheStampede]

I dunno yet. We can get good info from many other sources and now Kat is practically immune from night attacks, making it easier for a protector to do their job.

 

[TD]

Oh, I didn't read your role and didn't realize that.

You can lynch me today then, and you can kill whoever seems most likely to be a wolf tomorrow based on what you learn.

Fuck it, I'm in.

I want answers about Dean anyhow.

 

[TD]

I dunno yet. We can get good info from many other sources and now Kat is practically immune from night attacks, making it easier for a protector to do their job.

What do you suggest?

No one seemed to like my idea.

 

[Ben]

Oh, I didn't read your role and didn't realize that.

You can lynch me today then, and you can kill whoever seems most likely to be a wolf tomorrow based on what you learn.

I think if we were to follow this idea at all, I should convict Dean as I suspect he's a big fibber about the seer role. If I'm wrong and he's telling the truth, I get a new necktie but it'll prove Dean to be legit and he'll stay alive. We're still potentially going to lose a villager, but it seems a safer way to confirm it.

That then leaves you, claiming the Loudmouth, to pick someone else to rat out if you're killed by the wolves. Anyone with a seer role could check you tonight, and there's a chance the wolves won't want to pick you as a kill since you'd possibly give them away, somewhat providing protection.

 

[Tubby23]

Note for anyone looking, Zell won't count Kat's vote for herself so she technically only has 3 currently

 

[Benzine]

what do i need to do for this kat thing?

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can we consider that kat is the fool and that there is no cupid?

wolves can find specific roles, imagine if they found kat was the fool. kat would never out that there is no cupid, that makes a good spot for her.

if there was a voodoo wolf, and tommy wasn't it, tommy would 100% get muted if they were a good guy, or cupid.

 

[VashTheStampede]

I think if we were to follow this idea at all, I should convict Dean as I suspect he's a big fibber about the seer role. If I'm wrong and he's telling the truth, I get a new necktie but it'll prove Dean to be legit and he'll stay alive. We're still potentially going to lose a villager, but it seems a safer way to confirm it.

That then leaves you, claiming the Loudmouth, to pick someone else to rat out if you're killed by the wolves. Anyone with a seer role could check you tonight, and there's a chance the wolves won't want to pick you as a kill since you'd possibly give them away, somewhat providing protection.

I'd argue that TDs original plan of killing FR is a better play.

He has already claimed to be relatively worthless, role-wise. Good chance of outing the Lovers situation. And a chance to keep a seer if Dean is legit and uncoupled.

 

[Dean]

@Kat Thank you for volunteering. I didn't want to lose a townie to prove my innocence, but whatever.

I changed my vote to you.

 

[Tubby23]

what do i need to do for this kat thing?

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can we consider that kat is the fool and that there is no cupid?

wolves can find specific roles, imagine if they found kat was the fool. kat would never out that there is no cupid, that makes a good spot for her.

if there was a voodoo wolf, and tommy wasn't it, tommy would 100% get muted if they were a good guy, or cupid.

 

[Ben]

I'd argue that TDs original plan of killing FR is a better play.

He has already claimed to be relatively worthless, role-wise. Good chance of outing the Lovers situation. And a chance to keep a seer if Dean is legit and uncoupled.

Unless Fool's is the... Fool? And just paired up with a wolf. That'd explain their trying to get themselves killed too. That then leads to not knowing who the 3rd wolf is.