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VashTheStampede said:
I'm going to be so mad if you're a wolf and just trying to slow play so you have more votes on lynches.

BUT I trust you to be housebroken by now.
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It would be a good play, but I'm not smart enough to pull that off.

TD said:
You confirmed kut is the Sprit Seer.
That is exactly what FR has claimed.

Are we really going with we have found one of ALL THESE RANDOM ROLES claimed without a role to verify it?

FR claimed Spirit Seer and NEITHER OF OUR AURAS EVEN THOUGHT TO LOOK!?
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Aura did check and FR is Good Aura, which backs the sorcerer role.

Also backs seer, but I still believe he is sorcerer.
 
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TD said:
You confirmed kut is the Sprit Seer.
That is exactly what FR has claimed.

Are we really going with we have found one of ALL THESE RANDOM ROLES claimed without a role to verify it?

FR claimed Spirit Seer and NEITHER OF OUR AURAS EVEN THOUGHT TO LOOK!?
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Claimed to confirm kut claimed Spirit Seer (likely can be shortened to "confirmed kut claimed seer")

The not me Aura claimed FR has a good Aura
 
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Killface! said:
Aura the role.

@aura seer claims they are the Aura Seer role.

Other Aura Seer (Local Hero) checked FR.
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Ugh how do we somehow know less as time goes on?! I retract my vote for Vash.

Local Hero said:
ShortkutDead lol
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😂

TD said:
Speaking of them - I'd love to be a fly on the wall of that. Who thinks they're still bickering?
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Sorry for ruining your eternal rest, kut.

VashTheStampede said:
I'd like to remind everyone that when people started voting for Cole, this one here immediately went after Fool's instead and never really explained why. Just immediate ride-or-die for Cole. I said yesterday that if Cole is a wolf, we need to look at Hero.

Now Cole is dead and we're still waiting to see if he was a wolf...and Hero is now on the Fool's Is Good train. Sure, maybe it's the truth and he's one of our 9 seers. Definitely could be the case.
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I agree, local has been shady with who they've been defending.

Local Hero said:
One of the random townie roles (Alu, Benzine, Fool, Local, Raposa, Warp, Ants)
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Killface! said:
Kut claimed Spirit Seer.
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So obviously there are liars in this list. Even accounting for two seers and a bodyguard being guaranteed, that's 5 random role claims for at just 3 random roles (2 if Ryan was really a seer). All guaranteed roles are also claimed, so there are probably no townies false claiming other townie roles.

Since we don't know shortkut's role, it's possible he was the ritualist and Killface is lying. The wolves would know his role and that it's safe for them to claim. So I'm including his as a possible lie.

It's 8 people so it doesn't narrow things down a ton, but I think this is where we should focus. Is there anyone we can mostly eliminate as a suspect based on info they've given or actions they've taken? This is what I remember:

Alu says I'm unknown, which is true (witch, which I've proven with my kill, and he was hinting before I hinted at being a witch)
Alu said cg was unknown the first night, which does seem to be true (he claimed marksman kill and no one has refuted)
This is all info a sorcerer would have, though.

Fool said Cole killed the first night, which was true (marksman killed Cole and didn't die, verifying he was a wolf)
Fool was locked up second night and couldn't perform any actions, which Holly verified (and no one has countered Holly's claim)
Technically Holly and Fool could be colluding if shortkut was the warden. The marksman killed Cole, so we can't verify their story. I feel like this is pretty unlikely though, it'd be suspicious when nobody is jailed tonight.

Local said he checked CG the first night and found him as unknown, but it was after Alu hinted. He claims not to have noticed the hint, but Cole was alive, so he could've pointed it out.
Local checked fool the second night and said they're good. If Fool is evil then local is too. Or local could know fool is telling the truth and is using it for easy cover.

I can't remember who warp checked the first night, but she checked fool the second night, who was conveniently unable to kill anyone. To be fair, she didn't have a good chance of finding a killer last night.

Benzine claimed to protect cg and that he was attacked last night. It's possible, since no one died. Or the wolves turned the fan or tried to attack Ryan, so they know it's safe to claim they protected cg. I feel like this is less suspicious than most claims, even if not ironclad.

Raposa claimed to protect Ryan, who was conveniently killed by me. This is suspicious to me, especially since several of us called out Ryan as a likely wolf and I explicitly said don't protect him. I haven't heard any justification for this action.

Ants is claiming tough guy but hasn't said who he has protected. There's not much to go on there, which is always a bit suspicious. I feel like Ants tends to avoid drawing attention as a wolf (although I'm not sure I've seen him as a townie to compare).

Did I miss anything worth taking into consideration?
 
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TD said:
I HAD TO GOOGLE IT.

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Well at least now I know not to bother go ogling.
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Raposa claimed to protect Ryan, who was conveniently killed by me. This is suspicious to me, especially since several of us called out Ryan as a likely wolf and I explicitly said don't protect him. I haven't heard any justification for this action.
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In my defense, and I'm sure others will concur, day 1 there was no proof anybody was anything and a bunch of people calling for Ryan's head could have all been wolves trying to lynch a townie. I laid in my protection on Ryan early on in the day and then started drinking cuz it was my Friday night. 🍻
 
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Kat said:
Ugh how do we somehow know less as time goes on?! I retract my vote for Vash.


😂


Sorry for ruining your eternal rest, kut.


I agree, local has been shady with who they've been defending.




So obviously there are liars in this list. Even accounting for two seers and a bodyguard being guaranteed, that's 5 random role claims for at just 3 random roles (2 if Ryan was really a seer). All guaranteed roles are also claimed, so there are probably no townies false claiming other townie roles.

Since we don't know shortkut's role, it's possible he was the ritualist and Killface is lying. The wolves would know his role and that it's safe for them to claim. So I'm including his as a possible lie.

It's 8 people so it doesn't narrow things down a ton, but I think this is where we should focus. Is there anyone we can mostly eliminate as a suspect based on info they've given or actions they've taken? This is what I remember:

Alu says I'm unknown, which is true (witch, which I've proven with my kill, and he was hinting before I hinted at being a witch)
Alu said cg was unknown the first night, which does seem to be true (he claimed marksman kill and no one has refuted)
This is all info a sorcerer would have, though.

Fool said Cole killed the first night, which was true (marksman killed Cole and didn't die, verifying he was a wolf)
Fool was locked up second night and couldn't perform any actions, which Holly verified (and no one has countered Holly's claim)
Technically Holly and Fool could be colluding if shortkut was the warden. The marksman killed Cole, so we can't verify their story. I feel like this is pretty unlikely though, it'd be suspicious when nobody is jailed tonight.

Local said he checked CG the first night and found him as unknown, but it was after Alu hinted. He claims not to have noticed the hint, but Cole was alive, so he could've pointed it out.
Local checked fool the second night and said they're good. If Fool is evil then local is too. Or local could know fool is telling the truth and is using it for easy cover.

I can't remember who warp checked the first night, but she checked fool the second night, who was conveniently unable to kill anyone. To be fair, she didn't have a good chance of finding a killer last night.

Benzine claimed to protect cg and that he was attacked last night. It's possible, since no one died. Or the wolves turned the fan or tried to attack Ryan, so they know it's safe to claim they protected cg. I feel like this is less suspicious than most claims, even if not ironclad.

Raposa claimed to protect Ryan, who was conveniently killed by me. This is suspicious to me, especially since several of us called out Ryan as a likely wolf and I explicitly said don't protect him. I haven't heard any justification for this action.

Ants is claiming tough guy but hasn't said who he has protected. There's not much to go on there, which is always a bit suspicious. I feel like Ants tends to avoid drawing attention as a wolf (although I'm not sure I've seen him as a townie to compare).

Did I miss anything worth taking into consideration?
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I did say. Coleman the first night, Warp on the second night.
 
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Kat said:
I agree, local has been shady with who they've been defending.

Local said he checked CG the first night and found him as unknown, but it was after Alu hinted. He claims not to have noticed the hint, but Cole was alive, so he could've pointed it out.
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Local checked fool the second night and said they're good. If Fool is evil then local is too. Or local could know fool is telling the truth and is using it for easy cover.
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How have I been shady I'm who I'm defending? I specifically wasn't defending Cole, but just suspicious of Fool more (which might still be accurate if he's sorcerer)

I also did not remember Canadaguy's name, I thought his first name was Perry. I also had to ask who Aura Seer (the person) was (outside of the forum) because I had no contact of who he was.

Choose to believe me in this, or not. Probably you still won't, lol.

I don't follow your logic on if Fool is evil so am I?
 
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Local Hero said:
Who did Warp claim? Spirit Seer?
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Yes. Basically from the start of the game. I checked Ants and Vash, they were blue when the wolves killed. So, not wolves. RK possible.

I tried checking FR last night, uh... that didn't do anything helpful.


I don't have time to write, but I made it to my post! Progress! I dropped a bunch of reactions along the way, that's my contribution for the day. :chuckle

I look forward to another 4+ pages when I get back again.

Gonna have to spank some asses, unruly heathens...
 
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Killface! said:
Right this very second? No.

I can at 9:30PM tomorrow. (or whenever this day ends.)
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I think it's important to know that until you're dead, if Ryan was in fact a baddie, he might keep lying to you. If he wasn't lying in the first place then obviously it would be fine.

But that would be your call to make. He'll likely be sticking to the aura seer claim though.
 
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