Zell Wolf GWF Wolf - Zell's Version3 Night 1/Day 1

[Local Hero]

Do you mean abstain or skipping?

Skipping means that if the required number of players vote to skip, the day phase ends and we go into nights.

Abstaining just means you choose not to vote.

Abstain I mean. I think at least, lol

Edit, nevermind, I meant skipping to night phase

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Unless Ryan also turns out to be a wolf self sacrificing himself to keep Cole alive, there is no reason to vote Ryan today.

 

[Raine]

What's the situation if we all vote to skip day one?

The Serial Killer is the primary concern with this.

Arsonist is a doomsday scenario; every night it douses 2 players in gasoline with no way to stop it. As a separate action on a different night, it can choose to light a fire - and every player that was doused, dies. Seemingly no protection.

The Random Killer right now looks to be either Serial (for the 3rd time) or Arsonist, with Alchemist being possible if someone randomly drop dead before the end of the Day Phase.

Which is why I assume one of the Aura Seer claims is the Random Killer. Or, alternatively, we're in a bizarro world where we have 3-4 Aura Seers immediately after having a game with 3. And even in that case, we then have illegitimate Tough Guy and maybe Avenger claims.

 

[Ryan!]

Unless Ryan also turns out to be a wolf self sacrificing himself to keep Cole alive, there is no reason to vote Ryan today.

I appreciate it, but there's a reason. They can't Confusion kill me. They can't hide my role. I am officially verified and you and Cole are outed. By the by, 3.5 Wizard is better than 3.5 Sorcerer.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

I didn't read everything here because I'm 100% putting all my chickens in the "Cole is the Wolf" basket (I'm probably using that phrase wrong). What did Vash claim to be? Aura Seer?

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Arsonist is a doomsday scenario; every night it douses 2 players in gasoline with no way to stop it. As a separate action on a different night, it can choose to light a fire - and every player that was doused, dies. Seemingly no protection.

Arso scares me like no other.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Vash hasn't claimed anything because Vash is tired of constant role claims. To the point where I'm probably taking a break after this game.

But I did hint at something. Poorly, because looks like someone might be hinting I'm something I'm not.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Vash hasn't claimed anything because Vash is tired of constant role claims. To the point where I'm probably taking a break after this game.

But I did hint at something. Poorly, because looks like someone might be hinting I'm something I'm not.

Turst me, if I missed something, it's not you're fault.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

*your

 

[Raine]

The curse of trying to be subtle, then!

But, yes, I think I much prefer the slower games we did back on the OG forum. Claims rarely happened there, we just pushed buttons and things happened sometimes.

 

[Local Hero]

The Serial Killer is the primary concern with this.

Arsonist is a doomsday scenario; every night it douses 2 players in gasoline with no way to stop it. As a separate action on a different night, it can choose to light a fire - and every player that was doused, dies. Seemingly no protection.

The Random Killer right now looks to be either Serial (for the 3rd time) or Arsonist, with Alchemist being possible if someone randomly drop dead before the end of the Day Phase.

Which is why I assume one of the Aura Seer claims is the Random Killer. Or, alternatively, we're in a bizarro world where we have 3-4 Aura Seers immediately after having a game with 3. And even in that case, we then have illegitimate Tough Guy and maybe Avenger claims.

If I die by the serial killer, please remember Canadaguy was unknown.

 

[Cole]

It will be verified when we lynch either you or myself. I die tomorrow, we still know who to go after, and I have more info for the Dead Thread.

Sometimes the sacrifice play works early. I'm the one willing to make the play on myself to win. I'm not going to put another townie at risk. I'm going to put myself at risk. I read you. You're evil. If there's a Shaman, his ability wouldn't work Night 0 per the rules, as he has to tag someone during the day phase. Which means you are everything I've said.

If you think they have a Berserk, don't risk the protection on me. Use it on someone else. Do not protect FR.

Oh and Vash, maybe pay canadaguy or FR a visit tonight.

you're trying to sacrifice a townie and have absolutely no guarantee on your claims.

you are one of 4 people claiming aura seer but you feel like yours is the only one worth listening to. if you're an aura seer you've just sold yourself out to, what? get me?

last game you tried to sell ME out to get yourself.

you think you're laying out all the facts but all you're laying out is conjecture.

you're making the same exact claims and play as fr is but expecting us to believe you're authentic and hes another wolf.

so let's say you die and are aura seer.

they lynch me and I'm a wolf.

then you want them to lynch fools who may also be an aura seer.

you want to sacrifice 2 aura seers to get one wolf.

definitely a smart town play.

 

[Ryan!]

Vash hasn't claimed anything because Vash is tired of constant role claims. To the point where I'm probably taking a break after this game.

But I did hint at something. Poorly, because looks like someone might be hinting I'm something I'm not.

No, I think I know who you are. If I'm still alive, maybe we can share a cell.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Turst me, if I missed something, it's not you're fault.

No, I fucked up earlier because I forgot there is an actual role named the same thing as a word I used.

This hasn't been my best game so far, but I start slow.

 

[canadaguy]

Most people seem to agree that some subset of the wolves include at least one of the following: Cole, FR, and Ryan.

I am starting to believe all three of them may be

 

[Kat]

there any way to change how this forum displays new posts? Like I cant be the only one that gets a bunch of new posts planted in the middle of a conversation 2 pages back?

I posted about this during the last game. Hopefully they can figure something out or maybe just turn it off in this forum.

If Cole is a townie, it means Fool is probably a townie. Also means we're probably down two townies for nothing.

If only Fool is townie, but not a seer, we have no reason to continue to suspect Cole. Only down one townie

but I don't trust him in this game so far. I think Come is a townie. IF Cole is a townie, then we're most likely lynching, at worst, two townies.

Why does Cole bring a townie suggest Fool is a townie? Why is lynching Fool such a bad idea? Doesn't it make more sense that either Cole is a wolf and Fool is being genuine or that Fool is setting up Cole because Fool is a wolf and Cole is dangerous on the opposite team?

I see zero reason to change my vote if you aren't going to give more. I can't trust you.

Didn't you later say you are also an aura seer and confirmed Cole is evil?! Why wouldn't you immediately trust Fool then?

guys stop trying to lynch Fools please.

just becsuse he's playing to his skill level doesn't mean it's worth taking the risk on him.

seriously.

two games now the town has lost a priest on faulty fucking assumptions. now one day without the fool and you guys wanna lynch the first person who tries to make a plan?

So Cole doesn't want us to lynch either of them, even though if Cole were really a townie, this would paint Fool as an obvious bad guy. There's no fool that can immediately end the game, so why not risk it? Cole has lynched on less. This tells me they don't want Fool's role confirmed because we'll immediately kill Cole and he's strategic for the wolves.

C'mon guys, I can't believe anybody is falling for this.

If they kill me tonight, you know who to go after. I'll have more info in the Dead Thread.

Yeah, sure, your wolf buddies are totally going to kill you tonight. Please nobody waste your protection on this guy.

Cole is by far the most dangerous player in this game and I wouldn't even be able to play the long game. Cole is a wolf. Cole is a wolf. Cole is a wolf.

Can anyone say this is wrong? We have two people claiming aura seer and that Cole is evil, and he's still mostly talking himself out of it.

Even further, both are claiming Aura Seer roles, while I 100% believe Eric and I are truthful in our Aura Seer roles, with separately (somehow) identifying Canadaguy as Aura Unknown.

Too suspicious, Fool and Ryan are wolves.

Why do you believe Eric is truthful? Why would two wolves both falsely claim they saw Cole's aura as evil when that'll out them as soon as we lynch? The only way that could possibly work is if they're ALL wolves and it's a way to "prove" Ryan and Fool. It's weird Ryan would call Fool a liar in that case though, better to say he can confirm the info and we should all lynch Cole. And let's be real, even if the wolves did set out to sacrifice a wolf day 1, it ain't gonna be Cole.

I feel like this talk of collusion is to get us to kill our actual aura seer after we take out Cole, or at least mistrust them.

Local Hero, if you're a townie and just so very bad at this game, then trust me and change your vote to Cole.

 

[Ryan!]

you're trying to sacrifice a townie and have absolutely no guarantee on your claims.

you are one of 4 people claiming aura seer but you feel like yours is the only one worth listening to. if you're an aura seer you've just sold yourself out to, what? get me?

last game you tried to sell ME out to get yourself.

you think you're laying out all the facts but all you're laying out is conjecture.

you're making the same exact claims and play as fr is but expecting us to believe you're authentic and hes another wolf.

so let's say you die and are aura seer.

they lynch me and I'm a wolf.

then you want them to lynch fools who may also be an aura seer.

you want to sacrifice 2 aura seers to get one wolf.

definitely a smart town play.

Your little scuffle before about him complaining about the sacrifice play to his team was the first truthful thing you said in this game.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

I appreciate it, but there's a reason. They can't Confusion kill me. They can't hide my role. I am officially verified and you and Cole are outed. By the by, 3.5 Wizard is better than 3.5 Sorcerer.

Confusion wolf already used their ability on shortkut and have one more to go. I don't believe using it in back to back rounds is the way to go, but I'm also not Cole. Cole would make full use of the chaos caused by having two dead people whose roles are unknown right off the bat. Either way, if myself or Cole are lynched, they can't hide our roles.

 

[Cole]

I appreciate it, but there's a reason. They can't Confusion kill me. They can't hide my role. I am officially verified and you and Cole are outed. By the by, 3.5 Wizard is better than 3.5 Sorcerer.

I'm sorry, why are you under the impression you can't be confusion killed? lol

 

[TD]

The curse of trying to be subtle, then!

But, yes, I think I much prefer the slower games we did back on the OG forum. Claims rarely happened there, we just pushed buttons and things happened sometimes.

To be fair (and assuming we are referring to the same games), a lot of OG GW games had 30+ or 40+ players and even with that many there wasn't as many roles as this.

The games were longer and required more intuition than just flat out role claiming and relying on different roles.

They're completely different games at this point, albeit sharing the same concept.

 

[Ryan!]

I posted about this during the last game. Hopefully they can figure something out or maybe just turn it off in this forum.




Why does Cole bring a townie suggest Fool is a townie? Why is lynching Fool such a bad idea? Doesn't it make more sense that either Cole is a wolf and Fool is being genuine or that Fool is setting up Cole because Fool is a wolf and Cole is dangerous on the opposite team?


Didn't you later say you are also an aura seer and confirmed Cole is evil?! Why wouldn't you immediately trust Fool then?


So Cole doesn't want us to lynch either of them, even though if Cole were really a townie, this would paint Fool as an obvious bad guy. There's no fool that can immediately end the game, so why not risk it? Cole has lynched on less. This tells me they don't want Fool's role confirmed because we'll immediately kill Cole and he's strategic for the wolves.

C'mon guys, I can't believe anybody is falling for this.


Yeah, sure, your wolf buddies are totally going to kill you tonight. Please nobody waste your protection on this guy.


Can anyone say this is wrong? We have two people claiming aura seer and that Cole is evil, and he's still mostly talking himself out of it.


Why do you believe Eric is truthful? Why would two wolves both falsely claim they saw Cole's aura as evil when that'll out them as soon as we lynch? The only way that could possibly work is if they're ALL wolves and it's a way to "prove" Ryan and Fool. It's weird Ryan would call Fool a liar in that case though, better to say he can confirm the info and we should all lynch Cole. And let's be real, even if the wolves did set out to sacrifice a wolf day 1, it ain't gonna be Cole.

I feel like this talk of collusion is to get us to kill our actual aura seer after we take out Cole, or at least mistrust them.

Local Hero, if you're a townie and just so very bad at this game, then trust me and change your vote to Cole.

They're setting up for us to trust one of them when we lynch one.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

BY THE WAY GUYS,

COLE IS A WOLF.

 

[Cole]

Your little scuffle before about him complaining about the sacrifice play to his team was the first truthful thing you said in this game.

you are aware you and fools are literally playing the same exact game right now, right? so if something I said Is valid to him, it's valid to you too

 

[Ryan!]

I'm sorry, why are you under the impression you can't be confusion killed? lol

If I'm lynched and confirmed, you can't use the Confusion to cast doubt on me.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

you are aware you and fools are literally playing the same exact game right now, right? so if something I said Is valid to him, it's valid to you too

Nothing you say in this match is valid as none of it can be trusted.

 

[Cole]

then there's the fact that Ryan and fools could BOTH be wolves trying to create chaos by PLAYING THE SAME EXSCT THING.

they're both making the same post over and over again.

what's more confusing than two wolves claiming aura seer and a popular target is the bad guy?

 

[Cole]

If I'm lynched and confirmed, you can't use the Confusion to cast doubt on me.

why would anyone lynch you with your baseless desperation play?

 

[Ryan!]

Zell bases this game on Wolvesville where role claiming is a big part of the game.

 

[Cole]

Nothing you say in this match is valid as none of it can be trusted.

says the guy that couldn't even keep up his shitty plan for more than 4 posts.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

then there's the fact that Ryan and fools could BOTH be wolves trying to create chaos by PLAYING THE SAME EXSCT THING.

they're both making the same post over and over again.

what's more confusing than two wolves claiming aura seer and a popular target is the bad guy?

At no point have I claimed to be Aura Seer. Try again.

 

[Cole]

Zell bases this game on Wolvesville where role claiming is a big part of the game.

yes thanks, it was the meta I used first game.

 

[Cole]

At no point have I claimed to be Aura Seer. Try again.

you haven't claimed anything, you dump truck lol

 

[Ryan!]

At no point have I claimed to be Aura Seer. Try again.

Of course not. You're the Sorcerer.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

says the guy that couldn't even keep up his shitty plan for more than 4 posts.

I don't deny it being shitty. I felt it wasn't going to work, so I stopped.

You're still a wold, tho.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

*wolf

 

[VashTheStampede]

I want to be clear that regardless of my opinion on role claiming I think Zell is an AMAZING host and I appreciate all his hard work on these games.

 

[Kat]

I'm sorry, why are you under the impression you can't be confusion killed? lol

I think he's saying he'll be proven when you die and are revealed to be a wolf, so there's no point in confusion killing him. But that means nothing really, you being a wolf doesn't mean he is what he says. (Which I know you know.)

 

[A Punched Face]

Seriously. It's been 8 of the 36 hours in the first day phase and we already have over 600 posts.

 

[TD]

I'm just gonna put this one out there.

I think it would be hilarious if the Sorcerer somehow didn't realize they were on the wolf side.

 

[Cole]

I don't deny it being shitty. I felt it wasn't going to work, so I stopped.

You're still a wold, tho.

so then claim your role. tell us what you did.

how are you still not getting this?

 

[canadaguy]

I want to be clear that regardless of my opinion on role claiming I think Zell is an AMAZING host and I appreciate all his hard work on these games.

No wonder your breath smells like ass

 

[Cole]

I want to be clear that regardless of my opinion on role claiming I think Zell is an AMAZING host and I appreciate all his hard work on these games.

I agree. these games are wild.

 

[VashTheStampede]

so then claim your role. tell us what you did.

how are you still not getting this?

 

[Fool's Requiem]

so then claim your role. tell us what you did.

how are you still not getting this?

I sniffed your ass and it smelled like wet dog.

 

[Cole]

I think he's saying he'll be proven when you die and are revealed to be a wolf, so there's no point in confusion killing him. But that means nothing really, you being a wolf doesn't mean he is what he says. (Which I know you know.)

no he clarified thst he wants to be lynched yo prove his point somehow.

 

[VashTheStampede]

No wonder your breath smells like ass

Shut up man, just trying to get him to make me a wolf next game

 

[Cole]

I sniffed your ass and it smelled like wet dog.

you sure that wasn't just your own breath, sport?

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Shut up man, just trying to get him to make me a wolf next game

I know who I'm using my role on the next game.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

you sure that wasn't just your own breath, sport?

Come on, man, that was a weak retort. I expect more from you.

 

[canadaguy]

Shut up man, just trying to get him to make me a wolf next game

Thought I were gonna take a break.


Rest those eyes of yours