Zell Wolf GWF Wolf - Zell's Version3 Night 1/Day 1

[Ryan!]

Cole did figure out the meta. He stated he figured out his strategy if he was a Wolf. He never said it was a strategy he would use himself. They planned to have FR false role claim against Cole. This would lead to one of two outcomes. We don't believe FR and lynch him. He comes back as a Wolf. Cole is seemingly cleared and trusted. We lynch Cole. FR is seemingly verified and we trust him.

Cole didn't count on FR not being good at this.

 

[Cole]

Cole did figure out the meta. He stated he figured out his strategy if he was a Wolf. He never said it was a strategy he would use himself. They planned to have FR false role claim against Cole. This would lead to one of two outcomes. We don't believe FR and lynch him. He comes back as a Wolf. Cole is seemingly cleared and trusted. We lynch Cole. FR is seemingly verified and we trust him.

Cole didn't count on FR not being good at this.

what are you even WATCHING?

zell went around telling EVERYONE that I figured out the meta in the first game.

I didn't count on FR not being good at this?

seriously man, do you just slam your face on your keyboard and whatever is there you post?

I've been calling out his garbage play since zells first game.

seriously, what are you even trying to do now?

hoping everyones memory is as bad as yours?

 

[Ryan!]

what are you even WATCHING?

zell went around telling EVERYONE that I figured out the meta in the first game.

I didn't count on FR not being good at this?

seriously man, do you just slam your face on your keyboard and whatever is there you post?

I've been calling out his garbage play since zells first game.

seriously, what are you even trying to do now?

hoping everyones memory is as bad as yours?

It makes great tension to make people think you aren't on the same side.

 

[Holly]

 

[canadaguy]

Wolf Children! Behave!

 

[TD]

I, for one, thought I was super clever. Idiots usually do. But subtlety is dead, so what the fuck ever.





I'm your Spirit Seer. Ants and Vash aren't wolves, I don't know what to make of the Auras (or not-Auras, in FR's case?).

Serial Killer's going to have a field day.

This is giving me deja vu. Last game I was the seer and checked @Ants!

I publically told him he's not a wolf, but he was the fucking serial killer.

Ants, say it ain't so.

 

[Ryan!]

Wolf Children! Behave!

But Cole and FR are entertaining when they bicker.

 

[Ryan!]

Just remember that when, not if, Cole uses his Guardian Wolf power to prevent his lynching and when, not if, they Confusion kill me tonight, everything I said. You have two Wolves here to get rid of.

 

[TD]

So 4 aura seers and 1 spirit seer..

That's it, right?

 

[Ryan!]

So 4 aura seers and 1 spirit seer..

That's it, right?

I believe Alu. I believe me. I don't believe FR for a second.

 

[Holly]

@Zell 17 What are the votes up to atm?

 

[Raine]

I publically told him he's not a wolf, but he was the fucking serial killer.

Surely he can't have the same role tw... no, wait, that sounds familiar too. FUCKING @Benzine.

The RK didn't act, so I don't know. All I know is he's looking to have a claim to Tough Guy, and I trust that more than I do some of the Aura Seer claims.

 

[Holly]

It's evening now and we're on page 15. I haven't voted yet, but this back-and-forth has me wanting to join the vote Cole train.

Oh, and skip. Plenty of discussion today.

 

[Ryan!]

@Zell 17 update?

 

[Ryan!]

Yes I am asking you to look through pages and pages of info

 

[TD]

Just wanna point out..

We are on pace for 2000.

 

[Cole]

It makes great tension to make people think you aren't on the same side.

for the last two games with a guy that very publicly almost ran me from playing, right?

Just remember that when, not if, Cole uses his Guardian Wolf power to prevent his lynching and when, not if, they Confusion kill me tonight, everything I said. You have two Wolves here to get rid of.

very specific plan you got there

 

[Raine]

Cole alleges that he will nullify the lynch if either he or FR are the target, so whether he's the Guardian Wolf or the Flower Child today is moot as-is anyway. Will add to the Skip pile. RIP 2000!

Spoiler

Votes to lynch (7 required):

Cole - 7 (Fool's Requiem, TD, VashTheStampede, Ryan!, Kat, Benzine, Holly)
Fool's Requiem - 3 (Local Hero, aura seer, canadaguy)
Ants! - 1 (Raposa)
Raposa - 1 (Ants!)

No vote - canadaguy, Cole, Killface!, Warp

Votes to skip (14 required):

Skip - 4 (Raposa, Fool's Requiem, Benzine, Kat, VashTheStampede, Holly, Warp)

No vote - aura seer, Ants!, canadaguy, Cole, Killface!, TD, Ryan!, Local Hero

 

[Ants!]

I, for one, thought I was super clever. Idiots usually do. But subtlety is dead, so what the fuck ever.





I'm your Spirit Seer. Ants and Vash aren't wolves, I don't know what to make of the Auras (or not-Auras, in FR's case?).

Serial Killer's going to have a field day.

This is giving me deja vu. Last game I was the seer and checked @Ants!

I publically told him he's not a wolf, but he was the fucking serial killer.

Ants, say it ain't so.

Surely he can't have the same role tw... no, wait, that sounds familiar too. FUCKING @Benzine.

The RK didn't act, so I don't know. All I know is he's looking to have a claim to Tough Guy, and I trust that more than I do some of the Aura Seer claims.

Hey guys, I finally figured out this multi quote thing!!

 

[Ants!]

The possibility of having both a flower child, and a guardian wolf in the game is a total mindfuck. I want to point out though that only the guardian wolf is guaranteed to be in the game. The flower child would have to be a random role.

I have a feeling that if we lynch either of the three most suspicious people (and you know who they are), they will magically get saved, and then we will have an argument as to whether there is a flower child in the game.

 

[Zell 17]

Votes to lynch (7 required):

Cole - 7 (Fool's Requiem, TD, VashTheStampede, Ryan!, Kat, Benzine, Holly)
Fool's Requiem - 3 (Local Hero, aura seer, canadaguy)
Ants! - 1 (Raposa)
Raposa - 1 (Ants!)

No vote - canadaguy, Cole, Holly, Killface!, Warp

Votes to skip (14 required):

Skip - 8 (Raposa, Fool's Requiem, Benzine, Kat, VashTheStampede, Holly, Warp, Ryan!)

No vote - aura seer, Ants!, canadaguy, Cole, Killface!, TD, Local Hero

 

[Ryan!]

Skip

 

[Ryan!]

for the last two games with a guy that very publicly almost ran me from playing, right?

very specific plan you got there

You aren't stupid. And you aren't petty. You play to win.

 

[Zell 17]

Votes to lynch (7 required):

Cole - 7 (Fool's Requiem, TD, VashTheStampede, Ryan!, Kat, Benzine, Holly)
Fool's Requiem - 3 (Local Hero, aura seer, canadaguy)
Ants! - 1 (Raposa)
Raposa - 1 (Ants!)

No vote - canadaguy, Cole, Holly, Killface!, Warp

Votes to skip (14 required):

Skip - 8 (Raposa, Fool's Requiem, Benzine, Kat, VashTheStampede, Holly, Warp, Ryan!)

No vote - aura seer, Ants!, canadaguy, Cole, Killface!, TD, Local Hero

No faith in this tally at all double check my work here to make sure you are happy with how you are represented

 

[TD]

The possibility of having both a flower child, and a guardian wolf in the game is a total mindfuck. I want to point out though that only the guardian wolf is guaranteed to be in the game. The flower child would have to be a random role.

I have a feeling that if we lynch either of the three most suspicious people (and you know who they are), they will magically get saved, and then we will have an argument as to whether there is a flower child in the game.

After the last game I have just accepted that these games are just going to be mindfucks.

I've always been the play the odds type, but now we are also at 4 aura claims, last time we had 3.

Although it's worth noting that if we have 4 auras, flower child can't exist.

Then again I doubt we actually have 4 auras.

 

[Cole]

You aren't stupid. And you aren't petty. You play to win.

you REALLY don't know me.

I've been trashing Fools for 3 straight games now. so your belief is I set up this plan 2 games ago, to prepare for he and I to both be wolves THIS game and set up this plan.

wow. I AM good.

 

[TD]

We are at 7?

Fuck it.

I vote skip.

As always, those people who brought in the last couple votes to bring us to 7 are people to watch.

 

[Local Hero]

you REALLY don't know me.

I've been trashing Fools for 3 straight games now. so your belief is I set up this plan 2 games ago, to prepare for he and I to both be wolves THIS game and set up this plan.

wow. I AM good.

Yeah you really don't know Cole at all.

He's super petty lol

 

[Ryan!]

you REALLY don't know me.

I've been trashing Fools for 3 straight games now. so your belief is I set up this plan 2 games ago, to prepare for he and I to both be wolves THIS game and set up this plan.

wow. I AM good.

Setting it up? No. Exploiting it? Absolutely.

 

[A Punched Face]

Stop skipping everyone. I need more posts for the next stats update!

 

[Cole]

right. a guy that *literally* almost ran me from wolf games because I "ruined the game", I've definitely got a huge plan with him.

I'm pretty sure you're the one copying his *exact* play.

believe me, if we were both wolves and someone was gonna get sacrificed, it wouldn't have been me. not if he was in the group.

but sure. you do you.

 

[TD]

Stop skipping everyone. I need more posts for the next stats update!

 

[Ryan!]

Just remember when you save yourself and kill me, it just proves me right.

 

[Local Hero]

right. a guy that *literally* almost ran me from wolf games because I "ruined the game", I've definitely got a huge plan with him.

I'm pretty sure you're the one copying his *exact* play.

believe me, if we were both wolves and someone was gonna get sacrificed, it wouldn't have been me. not if he was in the group.

but sure. you do you.

Part of my rationale to lynch Fool, right here.

No way would Cole volunteer to be sacrificed and put Fool in charge to lead the rest of the wolves.

Kat, please be proud of me.

 

[Ants!]

After the last game I have just accepted that these games are just going to be mindfucks.

I've always been the play the odds type, but now we are also at 4 aura claims, last time we had 3.

Although it's worth noting that if we have 4 auras, flower child can't exist.

Then again I doubt we actually have 4 auras.

By my count, there are five people claiming the three extra townie rolls. Three extra seers, Coleman as the flower child, and myself as the tough guy.

Now, lying about a roll is not necessarily confirmation that you are a bad guy, there is precedence of townies claiming different roles than what they really have. But we have identified a pool of seven people that contain at a minimum two liars. That is a hard fact to start with.

For myself, I believe local and Alu (and obviously I believe myself). I also believe Warp.

Fool, Ryan, and Coleman I don’t believe at all. In fact this reeks of wolves working a chaotic plan together, one that specifically plays on the guardian/flowerchild problem. Two are screaming to be lynched, one is claiming flower child (not guaranteed to be in the game, though the guardian is).

Let’s kill all three of them.

 

[canadaguy]

No faith in this tally at all double check my work here to make sure you are happy with how you are represented

I'm listed as vote to lynch FR and also no vote.

The lynch vote is correct

 

[Local Hero]

I'm listed as vote to lynch FR and also no vote.

The lynch vote is correct

Same as me. Zell clarified to me earlier in the thread that they're two different things. I honestly don't fully comprehend it so I'm just going to see what happens lol

 

[Ryan!]

By my count, there are five people claiming the three extra townie rolls. Three extra seers, Coleman as the flower child, and myself as the tough guy.

Now, lying about a roll is not necessarily confirmation that you are a bad guy, there is precedence of townies claiming different roles than what they really have. But we have identified a pool of seven people that contain at a minimum two liars. That is a hard fact to start with.

For myself, I believe local and Alu (and obviously I believe myself). I also believe Warp.

Fool, Ryan, and Coleman I don’t believe at all. In fact this reeks of wolves working a chaotic plan together, one that specifically plays on the guardian/flowerchild problem. Two are screaming to be lynched, one is claiming flower child (not guaranteed to be in the game, though the guardian is).

Let’s kill all three of them.

As I said far earlier, if you do not believe me, lynch me and confirm my role so they don't use the Confusion kill on me. Sacrifice the Bishop to open your H file for mate. You lose one townie. They lose two wolves.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Same as me. Zell clarified to me earlier in the thread that they're two different things. I honestly don't fully comprehend it so I'm just going to see what happens lol

No, cg is listed thrice

 

[Ryan!]

Cole was not listed as unknown. He was listed as evil. I'm sure if I checked FR, he would come back as good because the Sorcerer does so. I have other people I'm going to check instead, assuming I live through the night. I won't be listing them here but will report my findings tomorrow.

 

[Ants!]

As I said far earlier, if you do not believe me, lynch me and confirm my role so they don't use the Confusion kill on me. Sacrifice the Bishop to open your H file for mate. You lose one townie. They lose two wolves.

I just said you’re one of the people I don’t believe, and you would get magically saved if lynched.

I think we need to get this one-time-use wolf power out of the way so we can start lynching people in earnest on day 2.

So: voting Coleman and skip

 

[Ryan!]

I just said you’re one of the people I don’t believe, and you would get magically saved if lynched.

I think we need to get this one-time-use wolf power out of the way so we can start lynching people in earnest on day 2.

So: voting Coleman and skip

Warp confirmed you. He confirmed Vash. I'm willing to be trusting if you are. This is all assuming he is telling the truth. I have the best interests of the town in mind. Don't believe me? Have a confirmation role check me. I'm more than happy to open myself to it.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

yeah you know what's not possible? 4 random roles.

what's the count now? 5?

It's almost as if some are playing a game of deception!

 

[Ryan!]

And again, if you don't believe me, do not allow them to use another Confusion kill on me. You need to make the sacrifice play and confirm what I'm saying right now. Cole isn't going to waste the Guardian power on a townie. This is the best scenario for him, which is why he's trying so desperately at what he perceives are insecurities. You confirm what I say, you have two wolves you can get rid of. The Warden can lock Cole up tonight and give a confirmed townie a weapon to get rid of him. Guardian power gone, Wolf gone. Alu, yourself, or Vash all work. As does Warp.

 

[Zell 17]

Votes to lynch (7 required):

Cole - 8 (Fool's Requiem, TD, VashTheStampede, Ryan!, Kat, Benzine, Holly, Ants!
Fool's Requiem - 3 (Local Hero, aura seer, canadaguy)
Ants! - 1 (Raposa)

No vote - Cole, Holly, Killface!, Warp

Votes to skip (14 required):

Skip - 9 (Raposa, Fool's Requiem, Benzine, Kat, VashTheStampede, Holly, Warp, Ryan!, TD

No vote - aura seer, Ants!, canadaguy, Cole, Killface!, Local Hero

 

[Cole]

As I said far earlier, if you do not believe me, lynch me and confirm my role so they don't use the Confusion kill on me. Sacrifice the Bishop to open your H file for mate. You lose one townie. They lose two wolves.

it's amusing you fancy yourself a bishop. I see you as more of a knight. when used well, you can be a great tool for a checkmate.

but like most players, the knight is being used poorly for cannon fodder to set up a grand play.

this whole "lynch me then bro" is so fucking silly and shows no sign of wanting the town to succeed.

and coincidentally, ALSO the same thing fools said.

 

[TD]

My biggest disappointment in all the random role claims is that it might mean no priest.

I really wanted a Tubby today.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

This is true. It's really an unknown as to why.

Speaking of which, last night I had a dream that someone with the same name as me yelled "visit you coward" but when I did I got caught in a stampede. Really different environment. Didn't know what to make of it for sure.

Did I misunderstand this comment?

 

[Ants!]

And again, if you don't believe me, do not allow them to use another Confusion kill on me. You need to make the sacrifice play and confirm what I'm saying right now. Cole isn't going to waste the Guardian power on a townie. This is the best scenario for him, which is why he's trying so desperately at what he perceives are insecurities. You confirm what I say, you have two wolves you can get rid of. The Warden can lock Cole up tonight and give a confirmed townie a weapon to get rid of him. Guardian power gone, Wolf gone. Alu, yourself, or Vash all work. As does Warp.

If you’re confusion-killed you’re still confirmed as a non-wolf anyway.

 

[Raine]

For myself, I believe local and Alu (and obviously I believe myself). I also believe Warp.

This is what I was asking about earlier - did someone else claim Spirit? Was that what FR was doing? 'Cause that changes everything for me.