Zell Wolf GWF Wolf - Zell's Game 5 Night 3 / Day 3

[Ben]

weiiiiird hill to die on, man. very weird.

The only solid information I have is that TD is the Shadow Wolf. He tried to claim he's the Doctor, which was proven to be Benzine. Smacktard's the only one who's fully believed me on that so far so and given how bat-shit insane the rest of this village seems to be I'm going to trust him.

Trust me, I'd rather everyone kills TD and prove that I was right, but if you're going to put us down a villager anyway, it may as be me as I'm no longer useful. Either way I'd hope TD dies before the end of the night phase.

(Not real TD, just wolf TD.)

 

[Cole]

The only solid information I have is that TD is the Shadow Wolf. He tried to claim he's the Doctor, which was proven to be Benzine. Smacktard's the only one who's fully believed me on that so far so and given how bat-shit insane the rest of this village seems to be I'm going to trust him.

Trust me, I'd rather everyone kills TD and prove that I was right, but if you're going to put us down a villager anyway, it may as be me as I'm no longer useful. Either way I'd hope TD dies before the end of the night phase.

(Not real TD, just wolf TD.)

both can be true. TD can be a wolf, and Smacktard believed you because he KNOWS TD is a wolf lol

come on.

 

[Smacktard]

The only solid information I have is that TD is the Shadow Wolf. He tried to claim he's the Doctor, which was proven to be Benzine. Smacktard's the only one who's fully believed me on that so far so and given how bat-shit insane the rest of this village seems to be I'm going to trust him.

Trust me, I'd rather everyone kills TD and prove that I was right, but if you're going to put us down a villager anyway, it may as be me as I'm no longer useful. Either way I'd hope TD dies before the end of the night phase.

(Not real TD, just wolf TD.)

Bro, it doesn't matter. If a single villager is killed during lynch today, another one will be killed at night, and the wolves automatically win by making up 50% of the town. It's already game over. Let's skip the day and get this game over with so a new one can begin.

 

[shortkut]

buddy I'm barely even PLAYING this game.

I've been asking to get killed for 3 days. but people keep making themselves such obvious targets, no one will bother killing me.

fine, I'm not Cupid, not sure where anyone got that from.

I'm the wolf seer, Smacktard, TD, shortkut are the others.

If that was the case, I never would have switched my vote off you. I’ve let you know many games ago, I’m open to sacrificing a teammate early to prove innocence. It makes no sense to keep you alive otherwise if I knew you didn’t want to play

 

[Cole]

If that was the case, I never would have switched my vote off you. I’ve let you know many games ago, I’m open to sacrificing a teammate early to prove innocence. It makes no sense to keep you alive otherwise if I knew you didn’t want to play

until I called into question the fact that you snap voted for me and skip, and despite your protestations, you absolutely would not have cared that I didnt want to stay in the game.

whats your role?

 

[shortkut]

Maybe i

until I called into question the fact that you snap voted for me and skip, and despite your protestations, you absolutely would not have cared that I wanted to stay in the game.

whats your role?

m the real medium and vash is acting as medium for me so the medium doesn’t get picked off. Maybe I’m Cupid and I put vash and Christina together because I knew Ants! Would die and I didn’t want to pair him with myself for the humor of it

 

[Zell 17]

Votes to lynch (5 required):

Smacktard - 7 (VashTheStampede, Local Hero, TD, Alu, Christina, Cole, shortkut)
TD - 1 (Ben)

No vote - 2 (Jawneh, Smacktard)

Votes to skip (9 required):

Skip - 3 (Ben, Cole, Smacktard)

No vote - 7 (Alu, Christina, Jawneh, Local Hero, shortkut, TD, VashTheStampede)

 

[VashTheStampede]

skip

 

[Cole]

Maybe i

m the real medium and vash is acting as medium for me so the medium doesn’t get picked off. Maybe I’m Cupid and I put vash and Christina together because I knew Ants! Would die and I didn’t want to pair him with myself for the humor of it

maybe.

but instead you're one of my fellow wolves. who but us would've set up Tubby the way we did? it really was perfect.

 

[Zell 17]

Votes to lynch (5 required):

Smacktard - 7 (VashTheStampede, Local Hero, TD, Alu, Christina, Cole, shortkut)
TD - 1 (Ben)

No vote - 2 (Jawneh, Smacktard)

Votes to skip (9 required):

Skip - 4 (Ben, Cole, Smacktard, VashTheStampede)

No vote - 6 (Alu, Christina, Jawneh, Local Hero, shortkut, TD)

 

[shortkut]

maybe.

but instead you're one of my fellow wolves. who but us would've set up Tubby the way we did? it really was perfect.

It really was. I’m glad zell gave us that idea

 

[shortkut]

Cole+shortkut

 

[Local Hero]

Alright, I typed up a huge effort post with evidence, but I don't want to give it all away at once. Let's start off simple:

Currently, seven people have voted for me -- four of them at the immediate start of the day. This either means that:

1. Wolves are currently voting for me, or
2. I'm a wolf, and the village has orchestrated a perfect vote 6/6 villager + 1 vote, and the remaining two people who aren't myself -- Ben, and Jawneh, along with someone currently voting for me -- must also be wolves.

So which is it? Ben, Jawneh, are we all wolves together?

Jawneh was targeted by Ants night 1. Jawneh is good.

Nah, this is probably true. I'm not at the level of you guys looking for Pepe Silvia over this shit. My knee-jerk reaction to revealing my role was to expect to get targeted, but should have realized logically there are bigger targets who still have active roles. But at the same time, they wouldn't have been able to do anything if jailed anyway, so me no longer having a power meant that didn't matter.

For the record, I did get jailed last night.

I won't have much time to read through here and criticize things until later, although I've provided the best information I can yesterday.

I'm still keeping my vote for @TD.

I would however implore the village to lynch me instead of @Smacktard if you are committed to taking out a townie. I still believe they're on the level, though I do wish TD had been checked last night. I already told you that TD was the Shadow Wolf so I won't be able to give any further information, but the Aura Seer can, and my being confirmed as Bell Ringer will at least prove that the TD side of this argument are the furries.

Oh, one other possibility I considered; What if our third random role is a Judge, who picked Tubby yesterday and that's why he got hanged? Zell's "if no one gets 6 votes no one gets lynched" and then the story we got didn't make it sound like the vote was tampered with and the wolves got their way. It sounded like no one decided but someone got hung anyway. If the judge had picked a wolf, they would have died at the end of the day yesterday. Also if Tubby was the Wolf Trickster to begin with but the person he picked didn't die yet, I think he'd still have shown up as the Wolf Trickster when he died. That doesn't immediately mean he's not a wolf.

You and Smacktard are both good? See my post below

I do think it's important to come back to the 3 random roles.

Ants - red lady
Benzine - doc (with TD most likely)

Tubby was Aura Seer
Only one left. You're strongly supporting Ben as bell ringer.

Ben and you both can't be a random role. There might even be another random role that hasn't come forward, but either way, either Ben or you are evil. Definitely one, possibly both.

 

[Smacktard]

Jawneh was targeted by Ants night 1. Jawneh is good.

Thx for making my point for me.

You and Smacktard are both good? See my post below

yes yes it totally makes sense that there are two doctors (one of which did absolutely fuckin' nothing despite his weak claim) and the Tubby was actually the aura seer and that's why they (you) dressed him up in a trickster wolf get-up rather than just let him die an aura seer and prove me unequivocally wrong.

 

[Christina]

I don't think people are changing their minds. vote skip

 

[Local Hero]

I don't think people are changing their minds. vote skip

Did cupid strike you and Vash with their arrows?

 

[Christina]

Did cupid strike you and Vash with their arrows?

Of course I love Vash. This next February will be our 25th anniversary!

 

[Zell 17]

Votes to lynch (5 required):

Smacktard - 7 (VashTheStampede, Local Hero, TD, Alu, Christina, Cole, shortkut)
TD - 1 (Ben)

No vote - 2 (Jawneh, Smacktard)

Votes to skip (9 required):

Skip - 5 (Ben, Cole, Smacktard, VashTheStampede, Christina)

No vote - 5 (Alu, Jawneh, Local Hero, shortkut, TD)

 

[TD]

I don't know if Kelly is a wolf or RK. I do lean wolf because claiming aura seer as RK is insane and there's no way he could hold that up.

But he claims he has made no contradictions, so if Tubby was Unknown and he knew this Night 0, why suggest Tubby may be the aura seer?

Post in thread 'GWF Wolf - Zell's Game 5 Night 2 / Day 2' https://gwforums.com/threads/gwf-wolf-zell’s-game-5-night-2-day-2.683/post-35085

 skip

We can sort out this TD or Ben thing tomorrow.

 

[Smacktard]

I don't know if Kelly is a wolf or RK. I do lean wolf because claiming aura seer as RK is insane and there's no way he could hold that up.

But he claims he has made no contradictions, so if Tubby was Unknown and he knew this Night 0, why suggest Tubby may be the aura seer?

Post in thread 'GWF Wolf - Zell's Game 5 Night 2 / Day 2' https://gwforums.com/threads/gwf-wolf-zell’s-game-5-night-2-day-2.683/post-35085

 skip

We can sort out this TD or Ben thing tomorrow.

yes yes when the wolves make up half the town and automatically win the game, good idea

 

[Zell 17]

Votes to lynch (5 required):

Smacktard - 7 (VashTheStampede, Local Hero, TD, Alu, Christina, Cole, shortkut)
TD - 1 (Ben)

No vote - 2 (Jawneh, Smacktard)

Votes to skip (9 required):

Skip - 6 (Ben, Cole, Smacktard, VashTheStampede, Christina, TD)

No vote - 4 (Alu, Jawneh, Local Hero, shortkut)

 

[Jawneh]

Okay, time for some new info folks.

We got a second confirmed random role today. We have two witches. One guaranteed, one random. How do I know? I'm one of them and I was not the one who spiked Benzine's drink last night.

Does that change much for today? Not really. It's just more apparent that Kelly is a wolf unless Tubby was actually the trickster wolf and they killed one of their own off to frame Kelly. Which is still fine, as when Kelly is gone, then we know 100% that TD is a baddie like we thought and Ben would also be lying and is a baddie.

So hey. Vote Smacktard.

 

[Zell 17]

Votes to lynch (5 required):

Smacktard - 8 (VashTheStampede, Local Hero, TD, Alu, Christina, Cole, shortkut, Jawneh)
TD - 1 (Ben)

No vote - 1 (Smacktard)

Votes to skip (9 required):

Skip - 6 (Ben, Cole, Smacktard, VashTheStampede, Christina, TD)

No vote - 4 (Alu, Jawneh, Local Hero, shortkut)

 

[Local Hero]

Okay, time for some new info folks.

We got a second confirmed random role today. We have two witches. One guaranteed, one random. How do I know? I'm one of them and I was not the one who spiked Benzine's drink last night.

Oh thank God

 

[Smacktard]

Does that change much for today? Not really. It's just more apparent that Kelly is a wolf unless Tubby was actually the trickster wolf and they killed one of their own off to frame Kelly. Which is still fine, as when Kelly is gone, then we know 100% that TD is a baddie like we thought and Ben would also be lying and is a baddie.

uh, yeah, unless tubby was the RK, and they dressed him up as the trickster wolf to frame me like i've been hinting at all along.

Btw your post also proves that TD CANNOT be a doctor, contrary to his claim, because we already have witch + witch + red lady (3 random roles) + confirmed doctor.

but by all means, go ahead, vote me off, leave there to be 4 townies vs 4 wolves and give the wolves the game.

 

[Local Hero]

I'm choosing to believe Jawneh (confirmed good boy thank you Ants!)

Confirmed Random roles:
Jawneh, witch
Ants!, red lady

Third random role is either
Ben, bell ringer
Tubby/Smacktard, aura seer
Benzine/TD, doctor

Did I miss anything?

 

[TD]

Btw your post also proves that TD CANNOT be a doctor, contrary to his claim, because we already have witch + witch + red lady (3 random roles) + confirmed doctor.

Uh, no silly wolf.
One of those witches is a guaranteed role.

So that's 2 random roles.

 

[Cole]

yes yes when the wolves make up half the town and automatically win the game, good idea

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he raised a valid question about your contradiction and you seem to have ignored it. how come?

 

[Smacktard]

I'm choosing to believe Jawneh (confirmed good boy thank you Ants!)

Confirmed Random roles:
Jawneh, witch
Ants!, red lady

Third random role is either
Ben, bell ringer
Tubby/Smacktard, aura seer
Benzine/TD, doctor

Did I miss anything?

Yes, if you believe Jawneh there is a second witch. So exactly as i said above:

because we already have witch + witch + red lady (3 random roles) + confirmed doctor.

edit: oh yeah my bad im dumb, I was looking at Game 4 roles lmao

 

[Local Hero]

No?

Witch witch red lady are two random roles

 

[VashTheStampede]

No?

Witch witch red lady are two random roles

There used to be a sandwich shop near here called Which Wich I really liked but it closed during the pandemic

 

[Smacktard]

But he claims he has made no contradictions, so if Tubby was Unknown and he knew this Night 0, why suggest Tubby may be the aura seer?

Post in thread 'GWF Wolf - Zell's Game 5 Night 2 / Day 2' https://gwforums.com/threads/gwf-wolf-zell’s-game-5-night-2-day-2.683/post-35085

I got nightmare'd Night 0. I knew if I admitted to that, town would call "bullshit, weak defense, Tubby said the exact same thing" and I'd have votes thrown my way. Besides, it was pretty much confirmed to me that Tubby was likely RK when they dressed him up in wolf trickster outfit and killed him in order cast doubt on my claim. If he really was the Aura Seer... why bother dressing him up?

he raised a valid question about your contradiction and you seem to have ignored it. how come?

I legitimately just read the last line of his post lmao but also all of your minds are already made up and you'd prefer to vote to lose, so why bother do anything other than shitpost?

 

[shortkut]

uh, yeah, unless tubby was the RK, and they dressed him up as the trickster wolf to frame me like i've been hinting at all along.

Btw your post also proves that TD CANNOT be a doctor, contrary to his claim, because we already have witch + witch + red lady (3 random roles) + confirmed doctor.

but by all means, go ahead, vote me off, leave there to be 4 townies vs 4 wolves and give the wolves the game.

You’re forgetting we all know TD is a wolf and the second witch can kill him tonight leaving 4 townies and 3 wolves

 

[VashTheStampede]

I got nightmare'd Night 0. I knew if I admitted to that, town would call "bullshit, weak defense, Tubby said the exact same thing" and I'd have votes thrown my way. Besides, it was pretty much confirmed to me that Tubby was likely RK when they dressed him up in wolf trickster outfit and killed him in order cast doubt on my claim. If he really was the Aura Seer... why bother dressing him up?

I legitimately just read the last line of his post lmao but also all of your minds are already made up and you'd prefer to vote to lose, so why bother do anything other than shitpost?

Nevertheless he persisted

 

[Smacktard]

But he claims he has made no contradictions, so if Tubby was Unknown and he knew this Night 0, why suggest Tubby may be the aura seer?

Post in thread 'GWF Wolf - Zell's Game 5 Night 2 / Day 2' https://gwforums.com/threads/gwf-wolf-zell’s-game-5-night-2-day-2.683/post-35085

I got nightmare'd Night 0. I knew if I admitted to that, town would call "bullshit, weak defense, Tubby said the exact same thing" and I'd have votes thrown my way. Besides, it was pretty much confirmed to me that Tubby was likely RK when they dressed him up in wolf trickster outfit and killed him in order cast doubt on my claim. If I AM the RK, and Tubby really WAS the Aura Seer... why bother dressing him up? Just let him die normally and expose my ruse, right?

he raised a valid question about your contradiction and you seem to have ignored it. how come?

I legitimately just read the last line of his post lmao but also all of your minds are already made up and you'd prefer to vote to lose, so why bother do anything other than shitpost?

 

[Smacktard]

You’re forgetting we all know TD is a wolf and the second witch can kill him tonight leaving 4 townies and 3 wolves

If you all know TD is a wolf... why vote for me?

 

[Local Hero]

No?

Witch witch red lady are two random roles

@Kelly, care to comment?

 

[VashTheStampede]

IF and only IF the second witch claim is legitimate.

And if you all know TD is a wolf... my vote for me?

Because you're the RK

 

[shortkut]

IF and only IF the second witch claim is legitimate.

And if you all know TD is a wolf... my vote for me?

Because if TD is a wolf, you are most likely the RK, meaning you can kill a lot of people tonight. Especially if the other witch claim is correct, we can remove a wolf and the RK in one day/night phase

Vote skip

 

[shortkut]

Because you're the RK

 

[VashTheStampede]

@Kelly, care to comment?

No he's giving up and shitposting and defending himself but not bothering defending himself so he's gonna shitpost while defending himself but there's no point defending himself so he's gonna shitpost

 

[Jawneh]

Y'all think it would be a good idea to bring Tommy back via medium? We'd get one more kill that way.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Y'all think it would be a good idea to bring Tommy back via medium? We'd get one more kill that way.

 

[TD]

You’re forgetting we all know TD is a wolf and the second witch can kill him tonight leaving 4 townies and 3 wolves

Except killing me is a great plan to help the wolves in case their kill gets blocked. For my count, we have three protections tonight unless the witches have already used their protection. Which might explain why we haven't seen a kill from the RK.

I got nightmare'd Night 0. I knew if I admitted to that, town would call "bullshit, weak defense, Tubby said the exact same thing" and I'd have votes thrown my way.

More lies.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Which might explain why we haven't seen a kill from the RK.

Or they're really shitty at this.

 

[Jawneh]

Or they're really shitty at this.

Yeah I am. I was between you and Benzine last night and we know who got killed.

And the other witch already murdered a doctor so they default as shit lol

 

[Cole]

I legitimately just read the last line of his post lmao but also all of your minds are already made up and you'd prefer to vote to lose, so why bother do anything other than shitpost?

yo fun fact for you. this is the same "defense" Alu gave when I outed him in Vashs game.

"well the town's mind is made up, so I won't defend myself with this really pointed question"

 

[VashTheStampede]

Yeah I am. I was between you and Benzine last night and we know who got killed.

And the other witch already murdered a doctor so they default as shit lol

It's all good. I got 99 problems but a witch ain't one.

 

[VashTheStampede]

LOCAL/JAWNEH IM SORRY IT WAS A JOKE MY SHITPOSTING WENT TOO FAR

 

[VashTheStampede]

Yeah I said it