Zell Wolf GWF Wolf - Zell's Game 5 Night 3 / Day 3

[Cole]

also if you haven't already, if Tubby wasn't the medium, then you need to revive one of the confirmed townies.

 

[VashTheStampede]

also if you haven't already, if Tubby wasn't the medium, then you need to revive one of the confirmed townies.

 

[Cole]

Vash if you know something different then say it.

 

[Zell 17]

Votes to lynch (5 required):

Smacktard - 4 (VashTheStampede, Local Hero, TD, Alu)
TD - 3 (Smacktard, Ben, Cole)

No vote - 3 (Christina, Jawneh, shortkut)

Votes to skip (9 required):

Skip - 2 (Ben, Cole)

No vote - 8 (Alu, Christina, Jawneh, Local Hero, shortkut, Smacktard, TD, VashTheStampede)

 

[Christina]

I'm going to believe Vash over Smacktard. I don't believe Smacktard to be an aura seer. Why did you check Ben last night when he was your friend yesterday? Also saying his good, which means nothing now that there is a trickster wolf, so you can what? Throw him under the bus tomorrow? vote Smacktard Killing poor Ants like that. You should be ashamed.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Vash if you know something different then say it.

Cole. When have I EVER been sure about something in these games without some form of equivocation?

I'm sure this time. I know what I'm doing. Help me out here.

 

[VashTheStampede]

I'm going to believe Vash over Smacktard. I don't believe Smacktard to be an aura seer. Why did you check Ben last night when he was your friend yesterday? Also saying his good, which means nothing now that there is a trickster wolf, so you can what? Throw him under the bus tomorrow? vote Smacktard Killing poor Ants like that. You should be ashamed.

Ok you don't have to sleep on the couch

 

[Local Hero]

TD - 3 (Smacktard, Ben, Cole)

Cole cupid? Cole wolf?

I don't understand voting with the top two suspects

 

[Cole]

Cole. When have I EVER been sure about something in these games without some form of equivocation?

I'm sure this time. I know what I'm doing. Help me out here.

you're not even sure about things when you have proof. I don't trust you any more than I trust anyone else.

 

[Christina]

Ok you don't have to sleep on the couch

Can if I want to! It's a nice couch.

 

[Local Hero]

you're not even sure about things when you have proof. I don't trust you any more than I trust anyone else.

What proof?

 

[VashTheStampede]

Cole cupid? Cole wolf?

I don't understand voting with the top two suspects

Cole is not a wolf

 

[Smacktard]

Why did you check Ben last night when he was your friend yesterday?

Because I thought it would make more sense than checking TD. I thought there would be a possibility that TD were killed last night by the witch or the jailer. Unfortunately, the witch killed the townie whose claim I had been supporting all along. Let's hope that witch (whoever he or she is) doesn't trust his/her own judgment again.

Also saying his good, which means nothing now that there is a trickster wolf, so you can what?

That's a fair point honestly, but it's not my inherent fault that the trickster wolf exists. We all know by now that TD is a wolf so can we stop playing dumb and vote him off already?

Also Vash was calling for Ben to NOT be protected yesterday. My only two other allies, Benzine and by extension Tommy, were killed. But go ahead, vote with the wolves again. Kill off another townie.

 

[Cole]

What proof?

don't ask me, it's not my proof.

how about you guys just lynch me if you're gonna be stupid anyway.

change vote to Cole, still skip

 

[A Punched Face]

Cole cupid? Cole wolf?

I don't understand voting with the top two suspects

Cole is cupid.

Tubby very confidently said Cole had a good aura on day 1. Tubby couldn't have come to that conclusion without either an aura read or being matched to Cole by cupid (or I guess being a wolf, but being killed by the wolves kind of takes that option away). Tubby died and Cole didn't, that means Tubby was either aura seer or a very lucky guesser, since Cole could have easily jumped on that to accuse tubby of lying.

 

[Local Hero]

 

[Smacktard]

And for what it's worth, yesterday I said I trusted Ben FOR NOW, until he was proven wrong. Unfortunately we never got a chance to test that theory yesterday, and now all of the suspect wolves are teaming up with the person he accused to vote me off.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Also Vash was calling for Ben to NOT be protected yesterday.

Yeah. RIP Ben.

If only he was still alive I could apologize for his untimely death.

Amaaaaaaaziiing graaaaace.....how sweeeet the sooooouuuuuund.....

he's right behind me, isn't he? Awkward...

 

[Smacktard]

Yeah. RIP Ben.

If only he was still alive I could apologize for his untimely death.

Amaaaaaaaziiing graaaaace.....how sweeeet the sooooouuuuuund.....

he's right behind me, isn't he? Awkward...

Yeah asking one of the confirmed townie roles not to be protected is a real pro-town get. Resort to mockery if you must, but just because he wasn't murdered doesn't mean that the intent and/or opening for murder wasn't there. Wolves went right for the protector role, and the witch played right into their incredibly dumb game, and I suspect is doing so once again.

 

[Cole]

Yeah asking one of the confirmed townie roles not to be protected is a real pro-town get. Resort to mockery if you must, but just because he wasn't murdered doesn't mean that the intent and/or opening for murder wasn't there. Wolves went right for the protector role, and the witch played right into their incredibly dumb game, and I suspect is doing so once again.

okay now you're being stupid.

if Ben is what he says and used his ability, there is literally zero reason to protect him. he's not a threat AND keeping him alive leaves TD unconfirmed which helps the wolves whether TD is or isn't one of them.

 

[Zell 17]

Votes to lynch (5 required):

Smacktard - 5 (VashTheStampede, Local Hero, TD, Alu, Christina)
TD - 2 (Smacktard, Ben)

No vote - 3 (Cole, Jawneh, shortkut)

Votes to skip (9 required):

Skip - 2 (Ben, Cole)

No vote - 8 (Alu, Christina, Jawneh, Local Hero, shortkut, Smacktard, TD, VashTheStampede)

 

[Cole]

I dont have a no vote.

 

[Smacktard]

okay now you're being stupid.

if Ben is what he says and used his ability, there is literally zero reason to protect him. he's not a threat AND keeping him alive leaves TD unconfirmed which helps the wolves whether TD is or isn't one of them.

Advocating for a single specific villager to not be protected sways the game. It's one more protection that could shift from village to wolves, opening up a larger chance for team killings. Instead of it happening to Ben, it happened to Benzine -- even worse for us.

Didn't Benzine say he was protecting Tommy? It turns out that was a bluff because Tommy's dead now. Ben is still alive. There's always the possibility that Benzine actually protected Ben from an RK attack before he died.

 

[VashTheStampede]

okay now you're being stupid.

if Ben is what he says and used his ability, there is literally zero reason to protect him. he's not a threat AND keeping him alive leaves TD unconfirmed which helps the wolves whether TD is or isn't one of them.

How many kills could the RK have stacked by now? 6?

 

[VashTheStampede]

Didn't Benzine say he was protecting Tommy? It turns out that was a bluff because Tommy's dead now. Ben is still alive. There's always the possibility that Benzine actually protected Ben from an RK attack before he died

Also Benzine could have been nightmared like Tubby the night before. Which would mean the Nightmare Wolf is shooting blanks from here.

I'd let you know tomorrow but I'm hoping you'll know first.

 

[Smacktard]

How many kills could the RK have stacked by now? 6?

According to Benzine, 0, but keep selling this propaganda.

 

[VashTheStampede]

According to Benzine, 0, but keep selling this propaganda.

Oh true, I guess he did confirm you're not the arsonist

 

[Local Hero]

How many kills could the RK have stacked by now? 6?

3 to 4 I think

 

[Cole]

Advocating for a single specific villager to not be protected sways the game. It's one more protection that could shift from village to wolves, opening up a larger chance for team killings. Instead of it happening to Ben, it happened to Benzine -- even worse for us.

Didn't Benzine say he was protecting Tommy? It turns out that was a bluff because Tommy's dead now. Ben is still alive. There's always the possibility that Benzine actually protected Ben from an RK attack before he died.

you're increasing your ridiculousnes.

i find it odd you're not blaming Benzine for not protecting Tommy, but instead blaming Vash for saying not to protect Ben.

Ben shouldn't have been protected, period. with no disrespect to Ben, in his first game, he's not exactly known "as a threat", he has one claimed piece of information and it's already out in the wild, he is no threat to the wolves.

if TD is a wolf, leaving Ben alive means TD gets unconfirmed and we do exactly wh at we're doing.

if TD isnt a wolf, leaving Ben alive means the rest of the town still thinks TD might be a wolf, and we do exactly what we're doing.

you're smarter than this.

why are you so worried about protecting Ben?

 

[VashTheStampede]

3 to 4 I think

Yeah should probably nip that in the bud

 

[Smacktard]

Anyone even remotely paying half-attention right now who has yet to vote:
Why would I support Benzine's claim of a good role?
Why would I support Benzine and Ben voting for TD after Ben PERFECTLY predicted what would take place that day, and made a strong claim for Bell Ringer which hasn't been disputed?
Why did I immediately receive 4 votes at the start of the day (aka the same number of wolves) + one townie (power couple Christina + Vash?)
Why would witch kill a townie, unless to even the odds for a wolf/townie couple?

Ask yourself these questions.

 

[A Punched Face]

You received votes because the medium said you were outed as evil.

 

[Cole]

Anyone even remotely paying half-attention right now who has yet to vote:
Why would I support Benzine's claim of a good role?
Why would I support Benzine and Ben voting for TD after Ben PERFECTLY predicted what would take place that day, and made a strong claim for Bell Ringer which hasn't been disputed?
Why did I immediately receive 4 votes at the start of the day (aka the same number of wolves) + one townie (power couple Christina + Vash?)
Why would witch kill a townie, unless to even the odds for a wolf/townie couple?

Ask yourself these questions.

okay I'll bite, but I'm changing my vote after this.

Why would I support Benzine's claim of a good role?
- because if you're the wolf seer, or even if you're not, you confirming a townie who is now dead makes it easy for you to do what you're doing. "why would I confirm a good role?" it also makes Benzine more susceptible to targeting by the Wolves without "landing" on you. it's what shortkut did to me last game.

Why would I support Benzine and Ben voting for TD after Ben PERFECTLY predicted what would take place that day, and made a strong claim for Bell Ringer which hasn't been disputed?
- Bell ringer can't be disputed, it's a potential random role. and the better question is, Ben "predicting" what would happen yesterday makes him look more guilty, not less.

Why did I immediately receive 4 votes at the start of the day (aka the same number of wolves) + one townie (power couple Christina + Vash?)
- probably because Vash talked to Ants, after hinting and then outright claiming medium.

Why would witch kill a townie, unless to even the odds for a wolf/townie couple?
- because the witch doesn't know who is who? are you claiming to know everyone who ISNT a wolf? because that's pretty wolf like behavior.

and just to be clear, I am absolutely *not* "remotely paying half attention".

vote Smacktard still skip

 

[VashTheStampede]

You received votes because the medium said you were outed as evil.

OTHER THAN THAT though

It's clearly the power couple of GW orchestrating everything

 

[Smacktard]

i find it odd you're not blaming Benzine for not protecting Tommy, but instead blaming Vash for saying not to protect Ben.

1. I would blame Benzine, except he's not alive and voting for me right now.
2. Benzine could've SAID he was protecting Tommy, but then moved his protection to someone else (me?) because he figured he could bluff the wolves.
3. Nightmare wolf?

why are you so worried about protecting Ben?

Because I believe him.

You received votes because the medium said you were outed as evil.

You've been awful quiet this game and I've had my thoughts as to why. You normally consider all information, but you're going for the easiest route. You trust Vash because he says he's medium, you don't trust me despite saying that I'm aura seer.

Ask yourself WHY the wolves would trickster Tubby before they killed him? Because THAT was the proof I was who I said I was. They couldn't have his role revealed because that would prove my claim.

 

[Local Hero]

I do think it's important to come back to the 3 random roles.

Ants - red lady
Benzine - doc (with TD most likely)

Tubby was Aura Seer
Only one left. You're strongly supporting Ben as bell ringer.

Ben and you both can't be a random role. There might even be another random role that hasn't come forward, but either way, either Ben or you are evil. Definitely one, possibly both.

 

[Smacktard]

okay I'll bite, but I'm changing my vote after this.

Why would I support Benzine's claim of a good role?
- because if you're the wolf seer, or even if you're not, you confirming a townie who is now dead makes it easy for you to do what you're doing. "why would I confirm a good role?" it also makes Benzine more susceptible to targeting by the Wolves without "landing" on you. it's what shortkut did to me last game.

Why would I support Benzine and Ben voting for TD after Ben PERFECTLY predicted what would take place that day, and made a strong claim for Bell Ringer which hasn't been disputed?
- Bell ringer can't be disputed, it's a potential random role. and the better question is, Ben "predicting" what would happen yesterday makes him look more guilty, not less.

Why did I immediately receive 4 votes at the start of the day (aka the same number of wolves) + one townie (power couple Christina + Vash?)
- probably because Vash talked to Ants, after hinting and then outright claiming medium.

Why would witch kill a townie, unless to even the odds for a wolf/townie couple?
- because the witch doesn't know who is who? are you claiming to know everyone who ISNT a wolf? because that's pretty wolf like behavior.

and just to be clear, I am absolutely *not* "remotely paying half attention".

vote Smacktard still skip

I'll respond to this when I get back home. I'm at the gym hurriedly trying to post my responses between sets. I'll lay it all out for you, and if the town decides they're going to continue being stupid beyond redemption, I'll vote my own damn self off.


Pic for proof though I'm sure y'all will dispute it as well.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Real medium taking his sweet damn time today. But it's early yet.

 

[Local Hero]

I'll respond to this when I get back home. I'm at the gym hurriedly trying to post my responses between sets. I'll lay it all out for you, and if the town decides they're going to continue being stupid beyond redemption, I'll vote my own damn self off.
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Pic for proof though I'm sure y'all will dispute it as well.

Believe yourself and you are halfway to being a wolf

 

[Smacktard]

Believe yourself and you are halfway to being a wolf

Well then that only makes me half the wolf you are.

 

[Local Hero]

 

[VashTheStampede]

Pic for proof though I'm sure y'all will dispute it as well

That could have been from any Man City/Sheffield United match where Grealish was acting like a massive bitch. Doesn't mean it was from today.

 

[Smacktard]

That could have been from any Man City/Sheffield United match where Grealish was acting like a massive bitch. Doesn't mean it was from today.

>he actually watches soccer
You are seriously beyond redemption.

 

[VashTheStampede]

>he actually watches soccer
You are seriously beyond redemption.

Or maybe I just know things.

Would explain your current predicament.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Oh, I asked Fool's the other night if he had a message for the town.

He said "the Lannisters send their regards."

Ominous AF but doesn't make a lick of sense. Possibly on brand.

 

[Zell 17]

Votes to lynch (5 required):

Smacktard - 6 (VashTheStampede, Local Hero, TD, Alu, Christina, Cole)
TD - 2 (Smacktard, Ben)

No vote - 2 (Jawneh, shortkut)

Votes to skip (9 required):

Skip - 2 (Ben, Cole)

No vote - 8 (Alu, Christina, Jawneh, Local Hero, shortkut, Smacktard, TD, VashTheStampede)

 

[shortkut]

I came in to this thread fully ready to vote TD since it seems obvious his wolves breatheren voted tubby to save his ass. In less than 2 pages, smacktard dug his own grave so fast, no one cares about a known wolf.

Voting @Smacktard no skip at this time

 

[shortkut]

Forgot gifs

 

[Local Hero]

Are we thinking Smacktard is the RK? Or wolf

 

[shortkut]

Are we thinking Smacktard is the RK? Or wolf

Given the fact that vash seems more concerned about the RK and is voting for Kelly, my assumption is RK